[Game Over] Newbie 1784 - Escape Room

[Chronicle]

Is my push on WM bad because I let it go in my recent readlist?

What about my Noodle read doesn't feel genuine? Because I hold on to that strongly, but not my WM read?

And why does the meta he brought up have anything to do with this game? The way that game played is I pulled a gambit that fucked town over. 4v2 with one page of content is really hard to play.

This game is not that game.

[nancy]

Is my push on WM bad because I let it go in my recent readlist?

What about my Noodle read doesn't feel genuine? Because I hold on to that strongly, but not my WM read?

And why does the meta he brought up have anything to do with this game? The way that game played is I pulled a gambit that fucked town over. 4v2 with one page of content is really hard to play.

This game is not that game.

The push on WM is bad because it feels like a fake tunnel.

Your interactions with Noodle have not seemed Town motivated.

The meta he brought up has to do with tone and word choice, not dayplay.

[Chronicle]

You're not backing these up as much as I thought you would.

[Chronicle]

Why does it feel fake?

What's scum motivated about my interactions with Noodle? Do you read it as WK? Buddying?

[Chronicle]

Also, if I flip scum, what would you do D2

And if I flip town, what would you do D2

[Chronicle]

Anyway I'll be off for now, I'll be around at deadline

[TesXX]

Not genuine = scum motivated?

Why would it not be?

[BlackVoid]

Src/Loop
Drixx/WM/Tess

Lynch preference from top to bottom, left to right are in no particular order.

Well I'd prefer Src and Loop, but like I could compromise on the other 3 if there's anything compelling between now and deadline.

This seems like you are okay with pretty much any lynch outside of StealthyNoodle. Why?

[TesXX]

Not genuine = scum motivated?

Why would it not be?

I'd like to hear why you would purposely do fake buddying, fake pushing, stuff like that as town.

[BlackVoid]

Also, if I flip scum, what would you do D2

What exactly is the point of asking this question if you know you are going to flip town. I could potentially see town asking it to someone that suspects them to read that person but you are asking confirmed town what she would do if you flipped scum...

[Drixx]

Also, if I flip scum, what would you do D2

And if I flip town, what would you do D2

The (spiteful/mad) town version of this is: "When I flip town, then what are you going to do?" (note that this version offers no help to the claimed win con).

The proper town version of this is: "When I flip town, please consider X, Y and Zed." (in other words, give reads and info dump).

I don't believe any town version of the post includes a townie entertaining himself flipping as scum.

[nancy]

Spoiler: Chronicle / WM

You first start pushing WM, presumably for voting an inactive slot:

Trying to pushing a pressure wagon on a lurker? Sure.

But you have no proof he is lurking, nor any form of indication that he could be lurkscum.

VOTE: Whymafia

No interactions before this.

I personally think pine is worth looking into -
He begins by heavily defending Nancy and proceeds to leave

In addition, I would have to say Nancy has a higher chance of scum than stealthy atm. She repeatedly appeals to my emotions, making me want to trust her. My other reasoning in on my reads list from page 8. I don't feel like repeating all of it. Just go check. That being said, I do appreciate what you said Nancy xd.

What even? Have you even thought to yourself why AtE is scummy before you said this?

This feels like empty aggression and has no trajectory nor intention to sort. No interactions with the slot after this for a long time.

I am honesty confused at this point
Nobody was talking so I made a joke
Hammer me
When my flip is revealed, I think it will be pretty obvious who is scum

If you are town, this seems like an awful play.

If you are scum, I 100% approve.

Still no attempt to sort the slot.

Maybe I'm just trying to win the game, something you really haven't been doing much (unless of course you're scum, which in that case you're doing just a tad better)

It's time to bare down and find scum.

Lol and you've been doing a lot?

VOTE: WhyMafia

Don't know why I got off you in the first place.

I don't know why you were /on/ the slot in the first place.

@556
Naked voting - so?
Hypocrisy - not sure how this bjc thing relates to anything? I wanted nancy to claim because I felt the strat helped town, but I didn't think her refusal meant anything alignment indicative. I explained this many times before, were you reading?

The rest I'm too lazy to reply to because mobile. I'll just pick out the important ones.

What's wrong with asking for a towncase in you?

I believe I have explained why i thought Noodle was town before.

I don't recall ever saying it was a solid, solid scumread. Nice misrep. Anyway, after the interaction with Noodle I began to rethink the whole wincon/claiming BP thing, then decided nancy could be scum for it and decided to move my vote there.

Still no detectable intention to sort here. Misremembering one of your reads isn't really a misrep and again, this feels like empty aggression.

@Chronicle what post number did you give reasoning

what the fuck I just brought it up in 567, but my brief Noodle read came way back in 407

what

the

fuck

Tone reads very fake here. I don't feel any real emotion from this post.

Reaction fishing .. what a common excuse

So .. what made you want to "reaction fish" me. After all, "I never run away from explaining my thoughts"

Lol what makes you think you're special, I naked voted a lot of people.

And if you think I'm not explaining something enough, just tell me.

You're kind of treating him as Town here, while pushing him as obvscum:

I agree that Chronicle has been really sure of me being town. He doesn't seem to be concerned at all, that I might be going behind everyone's back, dodging votes(except for nancy's and Pine's which really lack any explanation for now). Why are you so sure I'm town Chronicle, and who do you find most likely to be scum atm?

Sorry for not posting detailed reads yet. I'll get to it.

WhyMafia, obviously

Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true fyi

Like how you repeated multiple times that I never explained my Noodle read? Anything else you want to lie about?

From a Town who believes in their read, this kind of statement suggests a conclusive hard scumread, and yet your treatment of WM is relatively tame, and shortly after this you abandon it altogether for:

VOTE: nancy

come on board loop

your noodle push sucks

[nancy]

Why does it feel fake?

What's scum motivated about my interactions with Noodle? Do you read it as WK? Buddying?

WK and a severe case of buddying, yes. I don't believe anything Noodle has done today warrants the kind of townread you've displayed towards his slot.

[BlackVoid]

I've seen this kind of slip quite a lot. He's scum.

I will put my own skin on the line even. I'm that sure.

I approach mafia from a rationalist perspective. Day one is literally the worst ever for me because of the near total lack of actual KNOWN info.

@Drixx, these two quotes don't really add up for me. Why would a rational player who is aware that D1 is the worst ever for him put his own skin on the line for a D1 scumread?

[nancy]

The proper town version of this is: "When I flip town, please consider X, Y and Zed." (in other words, give reads and info dump).

I don't think Chronicle would be seriously expecting to be lynched here as Town, with you at L-1 etc., so I don't think they would make that post at this point.

[nancy]

Void, thoughts on the Chronicle / Nancy spoiler wall?

[Drixx]

I've seen this kind of slip quite a lot. He's scum.

I will put my own skin on the line even. I'm that sure.

I approach mafia from a rationalist perspective. Day one is literally the worst ever for me because of the near total lack of actual KNOWN info.

@Drixx, these two quotes don't really add up for me. Why would a rational player who is aware that D1 is the worst ever for him put his own skin on the line for a D1 scumread?

Some things just always come from scum. See it enough times and even I will catch it.

[BlackVoid]

Okay, so I ISO'd Chronicle and read through the quotewall and I'm still null on the slot. I didn't find the defense of Noodle particularly scummy. It could easily be town that had a townread. I was mildly suspicious of Chronicle leaving their options open entirely and being ready to sheep nancy's Pine scumread. That combined with Drixx's latest post probably indicates that they're not partnered but I wouldn't bank on it. I re-read Chronicle's towngame again and the tone does seem to be a lot different than here and Chronicle's responses that the game was short doesn't really address that. I'm conflicted.

[BlackVoid]

Some things just always come from scum. See it enough times and even I will catch it.

Okay then, quote me the last five times a similar thing happened.

[nancy]

You don't find it strange that as soon as you mentioned that he has gutreads as Town he starts suddenly having gutreads in this game?

I'm also noticing that he hasn't really had any solid scumreads all game. His pushes have been weak and I don't feel like there's been any real scumhunting coming from that slot, which I would expect with as much content that it's produced (compare Noodle, who at least has made a believeable push on Pine).

[BlackVoid]

Yeah, that's somewhat bizarre. I searched for instances of "gut" in his ISO and the only gutreads mentioned were after I pointed that out.

So, who do you think fits best as a partner to Chronicle?

[nancy]

Drixx.

[nancy]

Interactions with Noodle feel far too blatant to be scumpartner interactions.

[nancy]

Even with things like this:

@chronicle even now, my gut is screaming that nancy's scum. I'm waiting for doc to claim before deadline.

@chronicle even now, my gut is screaming that nancy's scum. I'm waiting for doc to claim before deadline.

Yeah, don't think that's gonna happen

[nancy]

(Noodle was active lurking during my interaction with Chronicle.)