Open 679: Jungle Oligarchy (Game OVER)

[Aristophanes]

Thinking the hit list last night was the mafia team, mafia knew Wolf couldn't kill and all 3 haven't done much, can see them nominating themselves as WIFOM, all 3 yesterday were content to just go with the flow and did nothing to direct the game, which tells me the status quo of the game is working for them right now

I've been on every kill list! You really think I'm gonna take that risk every night as scum??

It is possible that one or both of the others are Mafia trying to play with Wine a bit, but me? Seriously.

[Aristophanes]

1:1:1 is a mafia win

Not according to their wincons in the OP...

[Not_Mafia]

From wiki:

If the mafia and werewolves ever make up equal numbers, with no protown roles left alive, then mafia win. Mafia also win if a day phase begins with one mafia, one werewolf, and one protown.

Same endgame rules as Republic

[Aristophanes]

[tab][/tab]

Sample role PMs

Mafia Goon

Welcome, [Player Name]. You are a Mafia Goon, along with your partners, [Player Name] and [Player Name].
Abilities:
Factional communication: Anytime you may talk with your partners here [QuickTopic link].
Factional Targetting: During the day, you must submit a list of 3 players, which can change throughout the day. At the start of night, the list is made public in-thread; if the werewolves choose to nightkill, the target must be one from the list.

Win condition: You win when at least half of the living players are mafia, or when nothing can prevent this from happening.

Werewolf

Welcome, [Player Name]. You are a Werewolf, along with your partner, [Player Name].
Abilities:
Factional communication: During the night phase you may talk with your partner here [QuickTopic link].
Factional kill: Each night phase, you or your partner may perform the group nightkill. However, the target must be one from the list posted in-thread.

Win condition: You win when at least half of the living players are werewolves and at least one pro-town role remains, or if you obtain full majority, or when nothing can prevent this from happening.

Vanilla Townie

Welcome, [Player Name], you are a Vanilla Townie.
Abilities:
Your weapon is your vote, you have no night actions.

Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

[/area]

[Aristophanes]

From wiki:

If the mafia and werewolves ever make up equal numbers, with no protown roles left alive, then mafia win. Mafia also win if a day phase begins with one mafia, one werewolf, and one protown.

Same endgame rules as Republic

Oh...fucking Wiki.

Then Mafia have already won unless WW kills one at night. All they have to do is only place town on the kill lists.

[Not_Mafia]

Or we lynch mafia

[Umlaut]

Thinking the hit list last night was the mafia team, mafia knew Wolf couldn't kill and all 3 haven't done much, can see them nominating themselves as WIFOM, all 3 yesterday were content to just go with the flow and did nothing to direct the game, which tells me the status quo of the game is working for them right now

I would be more likely to believe this if the list were three all-new people.

If we think there's mafia on that list, it's probably whichever of Hiraki or Uzi looks towniest. Which I guess is Uzi. But I feel kind of dumb being suspicious of someone for looking towny.

[Aristophanes]

OK, so no NK ever at night.

Means 2:1:3 tomorrow if we nail Mafia.
We then have to work our way through all 3 before we lynch WW still because otherwise we go into insta 2:3 lylo.
Still better if we all agree to keep the WW around as long as possible.

[Not_Mafia]

The only way Wolf can win if they claim is if a night starts at 1:1:1 and they kill the mafia, which is never going to happen

[Not_Mafia]

Just sounds like mafia role fishing for their last obstacle

[Aristophanes]

NM, be real now.
You're sounding like Mafia looking to push a town lynch right now.

So either we work together or don't, but if we don't I'm gonna assume you're Scum.

[Umlaut]

Ari, explain how the wolf can meet their win condition by claiming, because I'm not seeing it.

[Not_Mafia]

They can't

[Aristophanes]

I didn't realize the 1:1:1 clause, so I may have been incorrect. Still better for us to keep them alive as long as possible.

I don't know now. If not for that clause I'd have had this all figured out.
I guess it doesn't matter, as long as we get Mafia today.

[Hiraki]

We could just get infinity who I can give the Hiraki guarantee (a step higher than the -Grey- guarantee) will flip scum?

Vote: Infinity

If anyone wants to 1v1 right here right now about me because y'all apparently got cases and reasons for days against me, I'm ready

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Aye Grey I'm sorry, you still the homie.

[Infinity 324]

I really really want to trust my reads. That would mean the scumteam is n_m, hiraki, and LUV

But ari was obvious town and mafia knew the wolf was aiming for them. Why would they put 2 mafia there? Maybe they predicted the no kill. Idk.

[Aristophanes]

I really really want to trust my reads. That would mean the scumteam is n_m, hiraki, and LUV

But ari was obvious town and mafia knew the wolf was aiming for them. Why would they put 2 mafia there? Maybe they predicted the no kill. Idk.

I mean, no kill was the best option and we all knew it. Worth the gamble imo.

I do like your scum pool tho

[Hiraki]

just saying there's been no quickhammer - it's me or him (the world will never be the same)

[Hiraki]

*him or me

[Hiraki]

in case im wrong (which I'm not and I will lead everyone to victory) - i'm going to go into full meta - remember that infinity has literally been going on a read since like D2 or whenever and his case is garbage (which is why no one followed it and never will)

his flinch now is absolutely the last thing a stubborn town would ever do

[Hiraki]

Unvote

just so I can REALLY get into this

[Hiraki]

Superhans

(7) : ChaosOmega, Lil Uzi Vert,

Riley Cake

,

-Grey-

, BTD6_maker,

Quick Transcendence

,

lucca261

(Lynch)
ChaosOmega (2) : chilledtea,

Superhans

-Grey-

(1) : Frederick E Campbell

Spade_Ace

(1) : mattblackguy
Lil Uzi Vert (1) : Hiraki

Quick Transcendence

(1) :

Spade_Ace

Not voting: None

Kop

(6) :

-Grey-

,

Aj the Epic

,

Spade_Ace

, Lil Uzi Vert, Hiraki, Not_Mafia (LYNCH)

Spade_Ace

(4) : Umlaut,

Kop

, Infinity 324, BTD6_maker

Spade_Ace

(5) : Infinity 324,

-Grey-

, Hiraki, BTD6_maker, Not_Mafia [LYNCH]
Not Voting (4) : Aristophanes, Spade_Ace, Lil Uzi Vert, Umlaut,

-Grey-

(5) : Not_Mafia, Infinity 324, Umlaut, Lil Uzi Vert, Aristophanes (LYNCH)
Not_Mafia (2) : -Grey-,

Hiraki

Not Voting (1) : BTD6_maker

I bolded so it's a little easier to read.

People on EVERY lynch but one:
- Lil Uzi Vert
- Not_Mafia
- Infinity

People on EVERY lynch but two:
- BTD6_maker
- Hiraki

Honestly - I would be OK with Lil Uzi or Infinity. N_M voting first on Grey speaks volumes toward his participation after his dumb hammers that make me really want to never play with him again. BTD6 maker is OK. If you notice, Ari and Umlaut are not on either of these.

Ari is usually not voting for most of this game due to inactivity. His hammer on -Grey- from a VCA analysis point scares me but that is very objective. Umlaut has been on one lynch wagon and that was yesterday. If he's managed to be mafia and avoid being on ALL of the lynch wagons less Grey's then kudos. I've been very pleased with his play even when he said he was going to find a connection between me and Grey. There's more shot for these two to be the SK from a purely objective standpoint.

there should be 100% consensus that Umlaut and Ari (my clear scumbuddies :):):) ) should not be lynched today and anyone who disagrees should give some really really REALLY good reasoning)

I realize that I have a short drive for this so I will go into Lil Uzi and Infinity's ISOs tomorrow. I've noticed that I've just blantantly ignored Lil Uzi and just hoped that he's town. VCA isn't making me very good about that anymore.

Feel free to correct me anywhere or draw your own conclusions about the current vote counts and sorry for the spam.

[Infinity 324]

in case im wrong (which I'm not and I will lead everyone to victory) - i'm going to go into full meta - remember that infinity has literally been going on a read since like D2 or whenever and his case is garbage (which is why no one followed it and never will)

his flinch now is absolutely the last thing a stubborn town would ever do

Three different scumreads of mine have been wrong over the course of this game.

No wonder I'd be a little bit nervous.

[Infinity 324]

there should be 100% consensus that Umlaut and Ari (my clear scumbuddies :):) ) should not be lynched today and anyone who disagrees should give some really really REALLY good reasoning)

Actually I agree with this.