DoY I: British Monarchy Mafia (Mini 1896) - Game Over :O

CloudKicker · Post Post #1500 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:38 am

In post 1499, The Wood Cutters wrote:
In post 1494, The Wood Cutters wrote:What are your reads?
???

who would you lynch if you could lynch anyone?

prism, fitz, shadow

Tea and Biscuits · Post Post #1501 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:40 am

Btw if we're nightkilled please lynch Wraith that day. Scum aren't going to kill the townie willing to strongarm a mislynch for them and take the fall for it don't be bad. Just saying that because there's always someone who goes "nightkills are just WIFOM!"

-- Postie

The Wood Cutters · Post Post #1502 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:42 am

There's a remarkably high chance that you could be nightkilled for reasons other than your correct read on Wraith.

Tea and Biscuits · Post Post #1503 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:43 am

???

-- Postie

The Wood Cutters · Post Post #1504 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:46 am

"If we're nightkilled kill our top suspect because there's

no other reason we could possibly die

" is a dumb line of thought.

havingfitz · Post Post #1505 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:48 am

In post 1488, The Wood Cutters wrote:Do you understand the point I'm making here?

Absolutely

Tea and Biscuits · Post Post #1506 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:50 am

In post 1504, The Wood Cutters wrote:"If we're nightkilled kill our top suspect because there's
no other reason we could possibly die
" is a dumb line of thought.

Well we haven't softed a power role, there isn't a high number of people townreading us, and I've given no other scumreads, so uh

-- Postie

havingfitz · Post Post #1507 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:10 am

@TWC

wrt #1483 - I'm not "still pushing" any specific poiints I made about AC. I'm voting AC because I suspect them. All of the points I gave are the reasons I came to suspect them. I'm not saying everyone needs to go vote AC right now because of my first three points. I'm saying how my AC suspicions evolved. And if some of the earlier points don't hold ass much weight later in the game...the later points still exist.

As for their "gambit"...I don't care. I'm not a huge fan of gambits. There was nothing pro-town about it imo. Even if AC were town it just injects unneccessary wifom. And they're self proclaiming the gambit as a reason they are town....which by default makes it scummy. i.e. Don't tell us why you are town....play like town and let us decide.

And I didn't call anything out specifically as a lie becuase I don't recall seeing one. The VT claim's veracity in unknown. It went from a claim to a maybe...could be....who knows. Hence the "claim was fake...or not" comment. idfk.

wrt #1484 - first off...I treat hydras actions/comments as being from one conjoined player. I'm not playing with Almost50 and Not Chara. I'm playing with Almost Chara. So pointing out individual posts they make to excuse what they say or do means nothing to me.

As for the "scum trying to save me point"...what is your point? I asked for an example of what they were referring to. The comment makes no sense for the reasons I gave with the point. Assuming I was scum (which I am not)...who are the scum buddies trying their best to save me? It's completely inaccurate based on the last scumread list I could find by AC. If their reads have changed to some other duo of scum buddies trying hard to protect me it went unnoticed by me.

So who does AC scum read currently and how are they trying their best to save me? It's exactly what I called it...Ridiculous ATE HYPERBOLE. Whether it syncs with their scumreads or not actually....in the absence of knowing who they were referring to and going off their last list...its actually False & Ridiculous ATE HYPERBOLE.

@AC...do you still suspect TeaBiscuit and farside? And if not...where was that voiced in the game and who are the scum buddies trying so hard to save me?

havingfitz · Post Post #1508 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:17 am

In post 1435, The Wood Cutters wrote:If Fitz flips scum can we flip Sheppy for the terribad defense of Fitz?

When Fitz flips town can we lynch AC, TWC and Cloud.

And call my townreads voting me dumbasses?

havingfitz · Post Post #1509 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:18 am

In post 1441, Infinity 324 wrote:Even if it is a mislynch, it doesn't mean shaddow is scum...

I never said he was. I don't think he is.

The Wood Cutters · Post Post #1510 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:19 am

Vote: Cloudkicker

Postie, Fitz, come vote CK with me.
As it stands right now AC is a stronger townread than Fitz is, but I think Fitz's posts when he is very very very close to death look town and CloudKicker is not looking so hot at the moment. I would vote Wraith, but 1) a surprising number of people are townreading him, and 2) voting him is basically a policy lynch for me at this point.

farside22 · Post Post #1511 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:21 am

I'm calling in sick.
No energy for reading.
Ugh

havingfitz · Post Post #1512 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:22 am

In post 1447, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1443, havingfitz wrote:
In post 1438, Infinity 324 wrote:But still, fitz should claim for sure and someone should probably hammer him soon.
Just noticed I'm at L-1.

I'm an odd night commuter.

Heading out for the evening....probably not back online until the morning, if I survive.
thats looks stupidly convenient

What does? Having plans for the evening or my claim?

If I was going to fakeclaim as scum I'd pick a valuable pr that...
1) town wouldn't want to lynch on D1
2) if cc'd...would give the scum buddies trying so hard to save me a juicy nk target.

But no... I get a short commuter or. How is that convenient?

The Wood Cutters · Post Post #1513 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:23 am

In post 1511, farside22 wrote:I'm calling in sick.
No energy for reading.
Ugh

Will you be around to get a lynch at deadline?
If so, please vote CK.

havingfitz · Post Post #1514 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:23 am

In post 1512, havingfitz wrote:short commuter or.

shitty commuter pr

The Wood Cutters · Post Post #1515 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:24 am

In post 1507, havingfitz wrote:I'm not saying everyone needs to go vote AC right now because of my first three points. I'm saying how my AC suspicions evolved. And if some of the earlier points don't hold ass much weight later in the game...the later points still exist.

Thank you, this makes sense. I didn't understand that was your intention - it seemed like you were trying to use those points as reasons to vote AC even though they were no longer valid.

In post 1507, havingfitz wrote:I'm not a huge fan of gambits. There was nothing pro-town about it imo. Even if AC were town it just injects unneccessary wifom.

It's misguided, but I don't think it's scummy; scum are more likely not to do things like that in my opinion simply because it draws too much attention to themselves.

I don't think that it's pro-town, but I do think that the reasons I gave to Empking (I can relink them if you're interested), are pretty strong reasons why they wouldn't do it as scum. I do think that the case I've given for them being town is at least worth a look.

The Wood Cutters · Post Post #1516 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:27 am

In post 1507, havingfitz wrote:wrt #1484 - first off...I treat hydras actions/comments as being from one conjoined player. I'm not playing with Almost50 and Not Chara. I'm playing with Almost Chara. So pointing out individual posts they make to excuse what they say or do means nothing to me.

I would assume you haven't played in a hydra, then.
As a player, when I am in a hydra, I am going to post thoughts when I have them in thread. I am not overly interested in syncing up with my hydra partners immediately; if I have something that I want to pursue, I'm going to pursue it regardless of what anyone else tells me. I am not going to lurk and wait until we can argue and reach perfect agreement. This means that occasionally, partners post things that I don't approve of. It's annoying to interact with and I understand that but as town transparency is king and I'd rather have a transparent player than a consistent one. I understand that my own personal experience will not change a long-held belief, but I hope that maybe it will help you understand where I'm coming from a little bit better.

havingfitz · Post Post #1517 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:28 am

In post 1455, Almost Chara wrote:fitz hasn't said he thinks we're faking dissonance,

I'm not sure I've ever said this....ever. On mafia OR in rl.

The Wood Cutters · Post Post #1518 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:30 am

In post 1507, havingfitz wrote:As for the "scum trying to save me point"...what is your point? I asked for an example of what they were referring to. The comment makes no sense for the reasons I gave with the point. Assuming I was scum (which I am not)...who are the scum buddies trying their best to save me? It's completely inaccurate based on the last scumread list I could find by AC. If their reads have changed to some other duo of scum buddies trying hard to protect me it went unnoticed by me.

I think that this point is the point of yours that holds the most merit. I think what happened there is almost saw Shepherd defending you in a poor way and thought that they were trying to save you; I can understand this sentiment a bit easier than I would normally because Gin (my hydra partner) had the exact same reaction to some of Shepherd's posts.

havingfitz · Post Post #1519 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:31 am

In post 1455, Almost Chara wrote:his case on us especially didn't feel like town

Remind me of the town feeling case you made on me/TM?

The Wood Cutters · Post Post #1520 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:37 am

In post 1381, farside22 wrote:
In post 1377, havingfitz wrote:
In post 1374, farside22 wrote:I'd vote fitz over ac at this current stage.
Boo.
You could vote twc or cloud and know if support it fully.

Putting this post here for farside's sick mind.
We only need 7 votes, me/postie/infinity/Fitz/Farside as a core makes the wagon a threat and the lead, can get a couple of middling people to finish it off fairly easily.

8 hours isn't a lot of time, but if you can be around for deadline, then there's not a significant risk in moving for now.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1521 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:40 am

In post 1509, havingfitz wrote:
In post 1441, Infinity 324 wrote:Even if it is a mislynch, it doesn't mean shaddow is scum...
I never said he was. I don't think he is.

You said thinking deep doesn't mean shit. I said it means he's town.

The Wood Cutters · Post Post #1522 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:41 am

Infinity, talk to me about Fitz's recent posts and the possibility of a CK lynch?

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1523 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:41 am

In post 1510, The Wood Cutters wrote:
Vote: Cloudkicker

Postie, Fitz, come vote CK with me.
As it stands right now AC is a stronger townread than Fitz is, but I think Fitz's posts when he is very very very close to death look town and CloudKicker is not looking so hot at the moment. I would vote Wraith, but 1) a surprising number of people are townreading him, and 2) voting him is basically a policy lynch for me at this point.

No. We have 7 and a half hours left, and fitz has done nothing town.

The Wood Cutters · Post Post #1524 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:41 am

In post 1523, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1510, The Wood Cutters wrote:
Vote: Cloudkicker

Postie, Fitz, come vote CK with me.
As it stands right now AC is a stronger townread than Fitz is, but I think Fitz's posts when he is very very very close to death look town and CloudKicker is not looking so hot at the moment. I would vote Wraith, but 1) a surprising number of people are townreading him, and 2) voting him is basically a policy lynch for me at this point.
No. We have 7 and a half hours left, and fitz has done nothing town.

Except he has.