DoY I: British Monarchy Mafia (Mini 1896) - Game Over :O

[CloudKicker]

Well here's the thing and I can also tell you that with 7 hours left, CK knows that you wont vote him if you dont give him an answer so he'll just lurk the day out.

If you do however vote CK, that will force him to come out of the wood works and lay shit on the table.

In DBZ Abridged, we blitz lynched a lurker due to a strong town core. It wasn't a healthy wagon, but the nature of it left scum in an awkward position and we caught them pretty much immediately after. In John Wick Mafia, we lynched a non poster because of a strong core, hit the role blocker and broke the game from there. In Hydra game 4 (I think), Tammy and I pressed a lynch on a lurker who ended up being the scum we would investigate and lunch the next day. We broke the game from there.

Lynching scum is always the main focus, information is from the game, not the wagons in the game. Information from a wagon doesn't disappear just because you decide to lunch someone else.

@twc

[Infinity 324]

Forgot T&B but top 4 for me are TWC, T&B, AC, and shaddow. I've mostly only had time to read during walks or meetings, latter of which is rude to type up a frenzy during but I'm doing it anyway now.

I forgot T&B too, lol

If I had the option to get a 1-shot doc if they were town and lose the game if they were scum, I'd take the free doc shot. There is no world in which they are scum.

[Commander Shepard]

No.

Just no.

Town loses a mislynch if we lynch wrong or no lynch. Hence why you should always vote scum or no lynch.

D1 scum lynches are rare but you never lynch someone with a strong belief they are Town ever.

No lynch is better because scum have to deal with evens. Which means a no lynch which means they have to plot kills and lynched more carefully with that in mind.

No. We need a flip to give us info and move forward. If fitz is town he'd probably just be lynched later on in the game and we'd have one less mislynch to work with. Scum don't need to plan shit more carefully, all it gives them is more lynch targets and less mislynches required to win.

You had it with me claiming Fitz claim makes sense.

*smacks you playfully*

[CloudKicker]

Almost Chara (4): HavingFitz 216, Drealmerz 238, Commander Shepard 1062, Empking 1036

^^^^^ town cw to scum!having

If fitz does flip town, what happens to this theory?

then its wrond what can i say

[Commander Shepard]

Well here's the thing and I can also tell you that with 7 hours left, CK knows that you wont vote him if you dont give him an answer so he'll just lurk the day out.

If you do however vote CK, that will force him to come out of the wood works and lay shit on the table.

In DBZ Abridged, we blitz lynched a lurker due to a strong town core. It wasn't a healthy wagon, but the nature of it left scum in an awkward position and we caught them pretty much immediately after. In John Wick Mafia, we lynched a non poster because of a strong core, hit the role blocker and broke the game from there. In Hydra game 4 (I think), Tammy and I pressed a lynch on a lurker who ended up being the scum we would investigate and lunch the next day. We broke the game from there.

Lynching scum is always the main focus, information is from the game, not the wagons in the game. Information from a wagon doesn't disappear just because you decide to lunch someone else.

@twc

Agreed Fitz should have never been hammered and now wait for the likely green.

[Prism]

It's okay I need to play the game at some point, wasn't a complaint but more an explanation of why my posting at the moment is rather haphazard and poorly edited.

P-Edit: Infinity lists 3 of my top 4 scumreads (excluding Infinity himself) in his townreads. What do you mean how do they fit together? I forgot T&B's existence until the second post so you can edit it to be 2 or 2.5 if you want.

[Commander Shepard]

Forgot T&B but top 4 for me are TWC, T&B, AC, and shaddow. I've mostly only had time to read during walks or meetings, latter of which is rude to type up a frenzy during but I'm doing it anyway now.

I forgot T&B too, lol

If I had the option to get a 1-shot doc if they were town and lose the game if they were scum, I'd take the free doc shot. There is no world in which they are scum.

Excuse me while I go to Andromeda because in my world no way they are Town.

[Prism]

That double post with the preview edit lmao

[Almost Chara]

Prism, how do we manage to become a scumread for you? earlier you said you were confident both fitz and us were town.
~Chara

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

@Commander Sheppard, hey this is Gin, I have a question.

You state that AC and The Wood Cutters are scum together.

You also state that havingfitz is town.

Now, I ask you, why if AC and TWC are scum together, would the TWC slot suddenly derail the havingfitz wagon in favor of a CK wagon.

How is the optimal play, assuming both are scum, for us to derail what was the defacto lynch of havingfitz in order to "save" AC?

That's the issue here. As scum, it'd be idiotic to do so and it simply wouldn't happen.

As town tho, it makes sense for us to be doing what we are doing.

I get that you scum read us but the narrative you tell does not line up with what the reality of the game is.

[Prism]

Prism, how do we manage to become a scumread for you? earlier you said you were confident both fitz and us were town.
~Chara

Do you know what the number 5 is? Do you think this game has 5 scum?

[Infinity 324]

{T&B}
{TWC, AC}
{shaddow, farside}
{CK, Shepard, empking, dreal}

{prism, wraith}

I guess this is where I'm at pending a flip. It's a pretty gross list but I'd be surprised if anyone in the top 3 tiers is scum

[Commander Shepard]

Because when Fitz flips green like he most likely will, AC and TWC look bad.

It is never idiotic to do that. It doesn't make sense for what you are doing to be Town. Not all scum can agree with a bad wagon and you need interaction with your buddy. It makes perfect sense to do it. Your narrative not supporting is crap.

[Infinity 324]

I would like you to go more into your read on me but I think it'll end up being an endless wall war. So I'll just ask: what do you think scum!me is trying to accomplish with this push?

@prism

Also if anyone wants to engage me on stuff we can do it d2. But please don't do so if you only want to argue and not listen.

[Almost Chara]

Prism, how do we manage to become a scumread for you? earlier you said you were confident both fitz and us were town.
~Chara

Do you know what the number 5 is? Do you think this game has 5 scum?

obviously not. but you seemed confident both wagons were terrible, so i'd thought that meant a strong townread on

both

of them. we might just have a different definition.
why hammer immediately if you knew the deadline was 30 minutes and would have more time to post and actually see what the situation was? was this time a surprise?
~Chara

[Infinity 324]

...wraith doesn't make sense as scum cause there would've been a stronger CW on someone towards the middle of the day

FUCK

[Aristophanes]

VC 1.LYNCH!!!

HavingFitz

(7): Almost Chara 819, Wraith 905, Tea and Biscuits 1385, Shaddowez 1422, CloudKicker 1725, Infinity 324 1734, Prism 1751

Almost Chara

(3): Drealmerz 238, Empking 1036, Commander Shepard 1209

CloudKicker

(2): The Wood Cutters 1510, HavingFitz 1527

The Wood Cutters

(1): Farside22 1363

Not Voting

(0): Nobody!!!

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Day one ends Wednesday, April 12th at 6pm EST, or in (expired on 2017-04-12 18:00:00)

Mod Notes:

Doing this on mobile (just finished work). Man you guys get busy at deadline!
There appears to be a lynch!

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Because when Fitz flips green like he most likely will, AC and TWC look bad.

It is never idiotic to do that. It doesn't make sense for what you are doing to be Town. Not all scum can agree with a bad wagon and you need interaction with your buddy. It makes perfect sense to do it. Your narrative not supporting is crap.

Wait what?

We agree that we both think he's town?

How is it you're not buddies with AC?

[Commander Shepard]

...wraith doesn't make sense as scum cause there would've been a stronger CW on someone towards the middle of the day

FUCK

Agreed. Please work with me here.

Wraith is town. Look at T&B's post I called out if Wraith town Postie Scum.
Look who all post after AC &TWC.

[Prism]

Yes, I expected to be in a haphazard, horribly edited posting frenzy in the middle of a meeting.

[Commander Shepard]

Because when Fitz flips green like he most likely will, AC and TWC look bad.

It is never idiotic to do that. It doesn't make sense for what you are doing to be Town. Not all scum can agree with a bad wagon and you need interaction with your buddy. It makes perfect sense to do it. Your narrative not supporting is crap.

Wait what?

We agree that we both think he's town?

How is it you're not buddies with AC?

I think Fitz is town. Been saying so the past while.

What you are pushing is NAI.

That is my point your narrative suggestion is crap.

[Prism]

Anyone who thinks Shephard is scum though I'm not sure if anyone thinks that at this point should slap themselves

[Infinity 324]

I will work with you shepard. But T&B is the one slot that I can't change. Sorry.

Everyone else I can reconsider, but it may take some convincing.

[Infinity 324]

Anyone who thinks Shephard is scum though I'm not sure if anyone thinks that at this point should slap themselves

Why

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

NAI? WHAT DO YOU MEAN!

IF WE ARE SCUM, WHAT SCUM AGENDA DO WE PUSH FOR TRYING TO DERAIL A DEFACTO LYNCH ON WHO WE BOTH THINK ARE TOWN?

WITH LITERALLY 7 hours left when we started it