Mini 1901 - over

[RadiantCowbells]

Because the rest of his role is something that town benefits from not being shared whereas miller ought to be shared early.

[Toogeloo]

Hell, even when I asked for reads, you gave a couple TRs and then said 'Tywin and horror look suspicious.' You didn't even call us scum

It's Day 1. I don't ever say some one is "scum" on Day 1.

Ever...

Cast away your bias. Miller claim aside, would you be as critical of my play?

[Toogeloo]

This dialog is basically distracting from the rest of the game though. We desperately need a vote count, and then it would be nice to discuss something else instead of circle jerk some more.

[vonflare]

Vote Count:

PerigreneV

(4) - Elena Fisher, RadiantCowbells, Dunnstral, Toogeloo

WhemeStar

(2) - Tywin Lannister, PeregrineV

Alban

(2) - horrordude0215, Firebringer

Toogeloo

(1) - WhemeStar

Edosurist

(1) - farside22

RadiantCowBells

(1) - drealmerz7

Tywinn Lannister

(1) - alban

Not Voting:

Edosurist

with 13 alive it's 7 to lynch.

CURRENT ITEM:

Lifedrinker Blade

Gain the following action:
Lifedrink: Target a player at night. If they die this night, you require 1 more vote to be lynched tomorrow.

Day ends in (expired on 2017-04-22 16:00:00).

[drealmerz7]

I hate miller claims, btw

such a weak cop-out, imo, not the best way to play the role at all

[Firebringer]

a better way would be?

[drealmerz7]

claim at L-1 like any other role, or if you get copped and someone says they have a guilty on you, then you claim that you are a miller is why

THEN people work on figuring out if you are lying or not, and by then you have more content given to allow for better sorting

[Firebringer]

if you claim miller right when someone has a guilty on you.....9 times out of ten you get lynched....

[drealmerz7]

well that's because town plays like shit around here

[drealmerz7]

I'm trying to help change that, and so I tell you what I think works better, from experience

that means not lynching based on claims alone, and learning to weigh the possibilities and discuss those possibilities openly before making rash decisions

[PeregrineV]

claim at L-1 like any other role, or if you get copped and someone says they have a guilty on you, then you claim that you are a miller is why

THEN people work on figuring out if you are lying or not, and by then you have more content given to allow for better sorting

well that's because town plays like shit around here

I'm trying to help change that, and so I tell you what I think works better, from experience

that means not lynching based on claims alone, and learning to weigh the possibilities and discuss those possibilities openly before making rash decisions

Good stuff, even if only part of mafia theory. Are the rest of your posts like this?

[PeregrineV]

In my last game with toog, he also was kind of same way he was here and got pressured for it.
He was a mason.

And basically had to out the other mason as a result.

In my last game with him, he was scum, and I thought he was town, and didn't want him lynched. He was lynched anyway (Thing Mafia).

[Toogeloo]

In my last game with toog, he also was kind of same way he was here and got pressured for it.
He was a mason.

And basically had to out the other mason as a result.

In my last game with him, he was scum, and I thought he was town, and didn't want him lynched. He was lynched anyway (Thing Mafia).

Not really a worthwhile comparison considering I replaced into a slot that was already somewhat suspected and I basically stated I was going to screw over town's organized night plans, which is what got me lynched on Day 1.


Fire, horror... can one of you guys explain to me the case on Alban? I think I missed it.

[Dunnstral]

if you claim miller right when someone has a guilty on you.....9 times out of ten you get lynched....

I can show you the world

[RadiantCowbells]

alban case is a distraction

[Firebringer]

if you claim miller right when someone has a guilty on you.....9 times out of ten you get lynched....

I can show you the world

Is it a whole new world?

[Dunnstral]

If somebody gets a guilty on me I'll claim miller

[Firebringer]

I will counter ur claim by saying i am a reverse cop and can only get reverse results.

gg

[Dunnstral]

well regardless of claims I'm roleblocking rc tonight (not a fake claim)

Let's hurry up and get this day over with.

[Firebringer]

Alright fine
VOTE: PeregrineV

[Dunnstral]

I'll give you a treat

[drealmerz7]

If somebody gets a guilty on me I'll claim miller

so you're scum then? or are you talking in theory?

if you mean in theory, then you and the claimer become the only 2 viable lynch options, and then lynch based on content + viability of the claims (based on other known information, associations of the flips already given, ya know, CONTENT), ORRRRR maybe we decide "nope they're both probably telling the truth" (less likely), then if 1 of you is lynched we know the full truth - this is how IT ACTUALLY WORKS in town's favor, otherwise town is just getting jerked around and it is more clutterly - it's actually pretty simple

[drealmerz7]

Miller should play super-towny as possible (ideally VT play) so a cop doesn't investigate them. Balance should be made by the mod with it in mind that "cop could out itself with a guilty result on a towny." Anything else is simply discouraging good town play and allows scum to be more in control because "hey I'll just claim miller in case there's a cop in the game so they don't investigate me" and this makes play based on roles rather than on, you know, ACTUAL play and scumhunting.

[PeregrineV]

In my last game with toog, he also was kind of same way he was here and got pressured for it.
He was a mason.

And basically had to out the other mason as a result.

In my last game with him, he was scum, and I thought he was town, and didn't want him lynched. He was lynched anyway (Thing Mafia).

Not really a worthwhile comparison considering I replaced into a slot that was already somewhat suspected and I basically stated I was going to screw over town's organized night plans, which is what got me lynched on Day 1.

But not suspected by me.

I thought we were talking about previous Toog game experiences.

[Elena Fisher]

I'm not pushing my biggest scum reads because I am a team player and we really don't need 6 different people with one vote a piece on them. I'm willing to wagon someone I don't town read if it gets us somewhere though.

Seriously though... you give me shit for calling out Dunnstral, then you give me shit for not calling out anyone. Last vote count was a third of the game ago, back on page 14, but if I knew for certain you had some votes, I'd be all over voting you for your massive misreps.

I don't think I've seen a LAMIST post like this in a long time