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keyenpeydee · Post Post #1750 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:29 am

Actually, haven't moved on with my Umlaut scumread. I don't like his reasons on 1013, which I assume what I'm waiting for.

Fykus claim of being a PR is shit. Like it's unnecessary.

VOTE: Umlaut

Umlaut · Post Post #1751 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:46 am

In post 1750, keyenpeydee wrote:I don't like his reasons on 1013, which I assume what I'm waiting for.

What don't you like about them, and what happened with the second part of this sentence?

keyenpeydee · Post Post #1752 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:07 am

In post 1751, Umlaut wrote:
In post 1750, keyenpeydee wrote:I don't like his reasons on 1013, which I assume what I'm waiting for.
What don't you like about them, and what happened with the second part of this sentence?

I think your accuse of Alisae is shit

PeregrineV · Post Post #1753 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:21 am

In post 1678, Alisae wrote:Wait.
You'll be NK'd.
Over me?

You'd be NKed?

Over Uzi?

PeregrineV · Post Post #1754 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:23 am

In post 1694, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1693, Fykus wrote:Eddie and gerry obviously trolling
If Gerry (or yourself) are trying to eat a NK, its not going to work unless you actually claim a role that Scum want to kill more than the others.

Uzi's claim is kinda evidence that there is a SK in the game? What do people think about that? I ask because I think it unlikely that there is a Cop and a Gunsmith in the game. Gunsmith can get a guilty on Mafia, but not on SK. That would passively make SK immune to direct investigations.

No reason a cop has to be in the game.

PeregrineV · Post Post #1755 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:26 am

In post 1721, Transcend wrote:why does my ava vote have so much resistance

it's like a fart in the slaughterhouse. It is indistinguishable from the currently existing stronger votes.

Creature · Post Post #1756 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:27 am

Doce, doce, doce
A vida é um doce, vida é mel
Que escorre da boca, feito um doce
Pedaço do céu

PeregrineV · Post Post #1757 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:28 am

In post 1723, Creature wrote:Scum are in:
gerryoat
LicketyQuickety
Umlaut
PeregrineV
Lexa
Lowell

@Creature-

1488

Umlaut · Post Post #1758 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:29 am

In post 1752, keyenpeydee wrote:I think your accuse of Alisae is shit

Yeah, I gathered that. What's shit about it?

PeregrineV · Post Post #1759 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:30 am

In post 1726, Creature wrote:
In post 1724, Fykus wrote:Us bad players have gotta learn somehow.
Here's a challenge:

Next game you're a PR and a wagon pops on you, don't claim at all costs. Only claim if you get L-1 and someone declares intent.

That's Graduate-level mafia. Where did you learn this technique?

PeregrineV · Post Post #1760 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:31 am

In post 1740, Umlaut wrote:Okay I changed my mind. Fykus' claim is shit.

If I'm town and I have a PR so powerful that I'd be Mafia target #1, I don't say "I have a PR so powerful that I'd be Mafia target #1." Why would town do that? Full claiming under duress makes sense... not claiming makes sense... even saying just "I'm a PR" makes sense under some circumstances. But Fykus' claim is.basically "I'm painting an NK Target on my back to avoid painting an NK target on my back." It's awful, and it's not realistic town play.

VOTE: Fykus

He could be town Bulletproof trying to draw the kill.

Creature · Post Post #1761 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:32 am

In post 1520, Creature wrote:It seems like what gerry says are easy things for scum to say.

Creature · Post Post #1762 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:32 am

If other players accept him as town, they're probably wrong.

Who townreads someone for just trolling?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1763 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:34 am

In post 1759, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1726, Creature wrote:
In post 1724, Fykus wrote:Us bad players have gotta learn somehow.
Here's a challenge:

Next game you're a PR and a wagon pops on you, don't claim at all costs. Only claim if you get L-1 and someone declares intent.
That's Graduate-level mafia. Where did you learn this technique?

Lo... l?

Creature · Post Post #1764 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:35 am

I am PhD on mafia, stop calling me "graduated".

PeregrineV · Post Post #1765 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:35 am

In post 1762, Creature wrote:If other players accept him as town, they're probably wrong.

Who townreads someone for just trolling?

Who indeed.....

PeregrineV · Post Post #1766 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:37 am

In post 1764, Creature wrote:I am PhD on mafia, stop calling me "graduated".

Advanced concepts such as holding town power close to the vest to minimize scum shenanigans are doctor-level mafia concepts.

They will get you keeled.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1767 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:42 am

In post 1766, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1764, Creature wrote:I am PhD on mafia, stop calling me "graduated".
Advanced concepts such as holding town power close to the vest to minimize scum shenanigans are doctor-level mafia concepts.

They will get you keeled.

Creature already knows that...

PeregrineV · Post Post #1768 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:50 am

In post 1767, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1766, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1764, Creature wrote:I am PhD on mafia, stop calling me "graduated".
Advanced concepts such as holding town power close to the vest to minimize scum shenanigans are doctor-level mafia concepts.

They will get you keeled.
Creature already knows that...

Since you're here, your 1694 doesn't make much sense. Can you elaborate?

Alisae · Post Post #1769 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:55 am

In post 1753, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1678, Alisae wrote:Wait.
You'll be NK'd.
Over me?
You'd be NKed?

Over Uzi?

Oh yeah right gunsmith.

Alisae · Post Post #1770 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:58 am

ugh I'm a read later.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1771 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:02 am

In post 1768, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1767, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1766, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1764, Creature wrote:I am PhD on mafia, stop calling me "graduated".
Advanced concepts such as holding town power close to the vest to minimize scum shenanigans are doctor-level mafia concepts.

They will get you keeled.
Creature already knows that...
Since you're here, your 1694 doesn't make much sense. Can you elaborate?

OK, I will try.

I find it highly unlikely there is both a Gunsmith, Doctor and Cop in the game for seemingly obvious reasons (Follow the Cop). I am thinking either Town has a counter-balance of an anti-Town Town role(s) in the game. The thing is, there are not a whole lot of negative utility normal roles and fewer that make sense. IDK exactly the ones there are because I am poor at memorizing, but I know millar is one and that only really makes sense if there is both Cop and Gunsmith in the game, if Uzi's claim is correct, which I am not sure of even though I think Uzi is Town. But if Alisae's claim is true that that can in part contribute to balancing out Town's power, but its going to need more than that to balance Doc, Cop, Gunsmith and Weak Vig. This ofc only assumes that those other roles don't have modifiers on them and the hypothetical that these are the only PR's in the game and that is about my limit.

Transcend · Post Post #1772 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:05 am

In post 1755, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1721, Transcend wrote:why does my ava vote have so much resistance
it's like a fart in the slaughterhouse. It is indistinguishable from the currently existing stronger votes.

that's a good way to put it but several wagons have gotten momentum from scratch. ava has not.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1773 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:06 am

In post 1771, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1768, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1767, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1766, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1764, Creature wrote:I am PhD on mafia, stop calling me "graduated".
Advanced concepts such as holding town power close to the vest to minimize scum shenanigans are doctor-level mafia concepts.

They will get you keeled.
Creature already knows that...
Since you're here, your 1694 doesn't make much sense. Can you elaborate?
OK, I will try.

I find it highly unlikely there is both a Gunsmith, Doctor and Cop in the game for seemingly obvious reasons (Follow the Cop). I am thinking either Town has a counter-balance of an anti-Town Town role(s) in the game. The thing is, there are not a whole lot of negative utility normal roles and fewer that make sense. IDK exactly the ones there are because I am poor at memorizing, but I know millar is one and that only really makes sense if there is both Cop and Gunsmith in the game, if Uzi's claim is correct, which I am not sure of even though I think Uzi is Town. But if Alisae's claim is true that that can in part contribute to balancing out Town's power, but its going to need more than that to balance Doc, Cop, Gunsmith and Weak Vig. This ofc only assumes that those other roles don't have modifiers on them and the hypothetical that these are the only PR's in the game and that is about my limit.

And there is no guarantee that there is a Mafia RB in the game, so there is that as well.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1774 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:24 am

How about some music?