Large Normal 202 - Flavorful Mafia - Game Over!

[Lexa]

np

[PeregrineV]

I wished I could hear more from our Gunsmith.

[PeregrineV]

No one claimed Miller. It just a theory someone came up with.

Then that is kind of my question. Why come up with miller? Speculation to solve the game is fine, speculation for the sake of doing so not so fine.

[LicketyQuickety]

IF there is a Millar, the correct play is to claim Day 1. I don't trust people to make the correct plays anymore.

[PeregrineV]

IF there is a Millar, the correct play is to claim Day 1. I don't trust people to make the correct plays anymore.

what sparked your interest in a miller?

[Alisae]

No.
Correct Miller play is to claim in your first post.

[LicketyQuickety]

IF there is a Millar, the correct play is to claim Day 1. I don't trust people to make the correct plays anymore.

what sparked your interest in a miller?

There was talk of Cop and Gunsmith in the game. I may have started it myself, I can't remember.

[Lowell]

1803 is correct. Also I don't care about this discussion. But yes, what 1803 said.

[Fro99er]

Sorry for the delayed VC. Wifey just finished her Ph.D. today!!! Now we're having FLAVORFUL fireball shots

[Eddie Cane]

fireball!

[Fro99er]

TBH more excited about the Ph.D.

[Eddie Cane]

nah, sorry

[gerryoat]

Sorry for the delayed VC. Wifey just finished her Ph.D. today!!! Now we're having FLAVORFUL fireball shots

congrats!

[gerryoat]

VOTE: gerryoat

Why?

Because I haven't seen any scumhunting from him.

fake news

[gerryoat]

scum: LQ, lowell, gerry, key

LOOOOL DID LEXA JUST SAY IM SCUM WITH LQ AND KEY.

[gerryoat]

Lexa please explain that read. How do you teamread me and LQ or Key.

Also if you scumread them, why not vote one of them since I've clearly stated I wanted either of them lynched

[LicketyQuickety]

Sorry for the delayed VC. Wifey just finished her Ph.D. today!!! Now we're having FLAVORFUL fireball shots

Daum, son. Much congrats. I wish I could stick to something for so long. I am impressed, not many people get their Ph.D.

[Lexa]

Lol @ asking for team solve pre-flips

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why should it be clear to the rest of us that you're obvious town?

Maybe I'm misusing the word obvious....

Kind of a cop out man.

Not really. How many players have already referred to themselves as obv town?

I don't know and I'm not sure if it's really relevant.

If you had to sell that you're town to a spectator without revealing your role PM, how would you do it? What would you say?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Going back through the thread, looking for things that jump out at me as AI, long post warning (EDIT: Made it through page 28)
Preface note I don't generally do tone reads well, though they occasionally manifest through "this is townie/scummy but idk why"

alisae, keyen, LuV I have specific questions for you in the wall below


Slight town points to Creature for 70, explicitly declaring RVS as over is something I wouldn't be surprised to see done as scum but the motivations for doing so are more inherently townie

I never lynch Alisae today, those crumbs came early and often, obviously provable role as either alignment

Scum points to LQ for 81, major overreaction to something that really isn't AI. Trans isn't that bad that I think he'd expect anyone to give him towncred for that post and I have a high enough expectation for this playerbase that they wouldn't consider that AI from him here

Good point from Alisae in 116, makes LQ look worse. Don't agree with his defense where he states his belief that you shouldn't argue with your scum reads. The only time that's beneficial is when your scum reads are actual scum. If they are town then it provides an opportunity to engage with them and get more data points to hold them against further in the game. If scum it gives more opportunities for scum slips. As long as you're consciously avoid anchoring bias arguing with scum reads (within reason) is beneficial.

173 as point of reference, look to see if creature calls anyone out on a vanity wagon

202 is a bit odd, first mention of a SK and kind of out of nowhere. Fire crumbing?

@Alisae, are you still willing to bet the game on 230?

@Keyen, what is this post based off of?

Fire's 258, if this is taken at face value it's rather interesting in consideration of 202; could be a second SK crumb?

arona's 262 is hugely scummy, this is the rare occasion where this is blatantly off tonally

Scratch that arona was drunk

Finding the pressure on LUV odd at this point, haven't seen anything notable from them

On the one hand Lowell's reaction here as first post is rather odd, I'd think town!Lowell would be supportive of activity, but on the other hand I totally get it

Really don't like his follow up 356, throwing down a bunch of reads but none of them tangible and then sheeping the LuV wagon, could be town but the motivations for sheeping here are much more inherently scummy

I wish I could read transcend's playstyle

Noting that LuV claims town gunsmith at L-2

393 almost feels like a townslip from Trans? iirc the set up is explicitly one mafia role two town roles so if there's a ninja mafia would automatically know there's a backup

Agree with LuVs content here, not entirely sure what to make of it though. I almost feel like the tone of this post, which would otherwise seem scummy makes more sense when paired with LuV claiming early. Don't like the subtle push away from people trying to read him, but in general this gets slight town points.

Chickadee's 406 is a big inexperienced town tell for me, exactly the sort of thing I would do (and get voted for) on my main site when I was starting out

Firebringer's 410 is odd yet again. I'm trying to avoid conf bias here but these coincidences are starting to pile up

@Lil Uzi Vert give me a follow up on your reads on the people you were focused on in this post

Really dislike 433 but I don't think it's AI, note to watch gerry posts more closely

Scum points to keyen. I'm very interested in how you can simultaneously have no serious reads at 446 yet be confident in the existence of a mafia roleblocker at 243. If this is coming from town I have to imagine there would have been someone or something that made you think they were a roleblocker and being confident enough in that thought to state your belief on it should be enough to constitute a serious read.

Town points to creature at 450, I don't see scum making that post

I do think he's overly focused on whether something is easy to say as scum though, rather than looking at content or motivation. Although a motivation could be that something is easy to say, but I don't find that sufficient in and of itself

I like the thought behind ava's deconstruction of a Lowell counter wagon, not enough to get town points but a good opening look

gerry. no

LQ posts put me to sleep

@alisae reasoning for 525? Is this a legitimate read or confbiasing 230?

@alisae why is 533 a bad thing? If a wagon is scummy as hell people are going to be pushing to get the townie lynched, that's an ideal situation to look for inconsistent reasoning and scum slips among the wagoners

Thinking more about it I don't think i ever lynch fire today, my suspicions about him being an SK are pretty clearly determined if there are multiple kills overnight and he's top of the line for SK consideration if that happens

Alisae towning it up in 549

This is so true

Slight scum points to gerry at 589, unusually aggressive and also subtle buddying of alisae which is notable in light of his aforementioned 433

I don't want to lynch chickadee because she's adorable

Oh jesus only a third of the way through

Curious that fire is trying to form a townblock now after diverting town stuff away from him

Agree with 626

gerryoat looking worse to me, 633is a continuation of his previous posts, casts a lot of suspicion but there's nothing tangible behind what he's said, nothing he can really be held to. Slight scum points.

The irony of 648 when he'd been pushing pressure on lurkers including a V/LA person


An hour into this I'm losing steam, so I'ma drop this here and come back with more later

Key reads atm

town: creature, alisae, ava, trans, chick

???: fire

null: the rest

scum: LQ, lowell, gerry, key

never lynch today: alisae, fire

You can find my follow up in 579.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Sorry for the delayed VC. Wifey just finished her Ph.D. today!!! Now we're having FLAVORFUL fireball shots

Congrats

[Firebringer]

I'd like a lynch within next ten pages,
Make it happen plox

[Creature]

Hi Lexa

[Lexa]

Hi creature

[Firebringer]

I'd like a lynch within next ten pages,
Make it happen plox