Weather Mafia -- Divine Intervention? Over

[farside22]

@Monkey:

What exactly is the role name? Is it inspector hound? You said the weather being what it is tonight. How does the weather effect you? Did you get guilty for both people?

[Xtoxm]

The WIFOM thing was a joke btw, cos of what cyberbob said. Not some tactic to tryt and make you think i'm town because i'm scum.

[Glork]

Vote Count:

Gorrad 3 (ChaosOmega, Blackberry, farside22)
Blackberry 2 (Gorrad, Monkey)
Xtoxm 1 (hasdgfas)

Not Voting: skizter, Iammars, Xtoxm, konehead, Cyberbob, Twomz, armlx


With 13 alive, it would normally take 7 to lynch. However, due to the Heat Advisory, it takes 6 to lynch.

[Twomz]

I want to wait for the clarification from Monkey on if there was a guilty on xtoxm. Also, were you told in your role pm that you were sane? Because a double guilty looks a lot like paranoid or insane... although, I can't argue with the results .

[konehead]

@Glork I will not be on until Saturday; I have exams and a birthday party.

[Xtoxm]

I'm surprised a claim like that has come out this early. He was ambiguos about what he got for me, but i'm going to have a hard time believing blackerry is scum, so i'd say he's probably paranoid/insane.

[Blackberry]

Unvote: Xtoxm

, although he's still suspicious to me.

My suspicion of BB has grown even more though. As for not pointing out Gorrad's hammer vote earlier, it just didn't pop out to me as much as Blackberry's and Xtoxm's posts.

Vote: Blackberry

1. You lied to the town based on a gut feeling.
2. You started what became a quick lynch (Is that better wording for you?)
3. The role you claim today I don't buy for a minute, again I think you're lying.

As I've already stated earlier today, I'm willing to vote for either Blackberry or Xtoxm. I don't normally claim this early, but seeing as what the weather is going to be tonight and the possibility of me being killed I'm going due to the belief that I have of BB knowing my role, I'm the inspector hound.

I'm not positive of my sanity, but based on the events that have taken place so far, I'd say that I'm sane. I rec'd a guilty the first night on blackberry who was randomly chosen and night 2 I chose xtoxm to investigate b/c of his quick decision to vote for Niv and the godfather business.

That would explain also why my mind was narrowed on these two players today and why gorrad wasn't really popping out to me. I've tried to drop subtle hints here and there on my investigations as I've gone through, but I've just got this awkward feeling that BB was aware of them, call it a gut feeling.

Just remember that we're under a heat advisory and we only need 6 votes for the lynch. I think everyone's pretty much checked in, and with the evidence that we've got against BB, sounds like a pretty open shut case.

I'm having trouble trying to decide whether you are telling the truth about your role (and are paranoid/insane) or if you are mafia making a gambit.

What I do not understand is why you would investigate XTOXM... of all the people yesterday, I think it's most obvious he is not scum because of him thinking NIV was Godfather (when he wasn't). That or XTOXM was being smart. Why would you NOT investigaet GORRAD?? And how come you have still yet to comment on people voting for him?

Are you just going to dismiss the evidence that I am telling the truth about being the ONLY VANILLA TOWNIE?

[Cyberbob]

I'm off for the weekend AGAIN; I'm going up to Bendigo to work for my uncle.

I'll be back Monday sometime.

[Iammars]

I very much doubt that Monkey is sane. Or at least he's most certainly affected by the weather.

I'll be away most of the weekend, by the way.

[hasdgfas]

I find it more likely that he is affected by the weather. Night 1 it was cloudy, so cloudy results? Night two was windy, so I would expect more reliable results than on a cloudy night. I do find BB somewhat suspicious, but I'd believe Xtoxm-scum over BB-scum if only one of them were scum.

[Monkey]

1. Wait, did you get a guilty on xtoxm or no?

2. If you did, why unvote him here?

3. If you didn't, why vote him in the first place over BB?

1. Yes

2. As I've said earlier ...

Let it be known that I will vote for either blackberry or Xtoxm this day without any hesitation.

3. N/A

@Monkey:

1. What exactly is the role name? 2. Is it inspector hound? You said the weather being what it is tonight. 3. How does the weather effect you? 4. Did you get guilty for both people?

1. Inspector hound

2. Yes

3. I just meant that I had a suspicion that Blackberry possibly knew that I was a cop, 'gut feeling', which if Blackberry is scum and he told the rest of the scum that I would be nightkilled tonight without you all knowing my role due to tonight's weather which is ...

Foggy

-- The thick fog gives off a gloomy air...

Identites of those killed during Foggy periods are not revealed.

4. Yes

I want to wait for the clarification from Monkey on if there was a guilty on xtoxm. 1. Also, were you told in your role pm that you were sane? Because a double guilty looks a lot like paranoid or insane... although, I can't argue with the results .

1. No I wasn't unfortunately. I randomly chose Blackberry the first night and chose Xtoxm the next and am finding the irony behind the two player's actions to match quite well with my results. I wanted to wait longer before revealing, however I thought this might be my only chance to reveal and I've been trying to drop subtle hints in my posts as to my results, like my first one after I investigated Blackberry,

I'm here ..

Random Vote: Iammars

, b/c I can.

Farside22, I wanted to vote for blackberry .. You just had to go and still my thunder.

That's alright, I hit somebody else up for now .. hmm

I'm surprised a claim like that has come out this early. He was ambiguos about what he got for me, but i'm going to have a hard time believing blackerry is scum, so i'd say he's probably paranoid/insane.

Why are you going to have a hard time believing that blackberry is scum? I was ambiguous about what I got for you, but you aren't having a hard time believing that you're scum?

1. What I do not understand is why you would investigate XTOXM... of all the people yesterday, I think it's most obvious he is not scum because of him thinking NIV was Godfather (when he wasn't). That or XTOXM was being smart. 2. Why would you NOT investigaet GORRAD?? 3. And how come you have still yet to comment on people voting for him?

4. Are you just going to dismiss the evidence that I am telling the truth about being the ONLY VANILLA TOWNIE?

1. I chose xtoxm to investigate because of his post ...

unvote vote niv

then.

shortly after chaosomega's ...

unvote, vote Niv

He's at L-2.

I want to hear what Niv has to say about that.

I think that it was made pretty clear to wait for Niv's resposnse and obviously Xtoxm didn't agree. Plus xtoxm didn't throw any reasoning in, he was just going with the flow.

2. Gorrad was my second choice for the hammer, but didn't look suspicious to me for that one post. Xtoxm looked more suspicious in my eyes, and being a cop I can choose any player that I wish to investigate. The most suspicious looking player to others isn't necessarily the same to me.

3. Because I've got bigger fish to fry. I understand why people are voting him, but those people don't have two guilty results on two other players

4. Yeah sorta cause I think it's bs and the way you've played the role has been completely scummy.

1. I find it more likely that he is affected by the weather. Night 1 it was cloudy, so cloudy results? Night two was windy, so I would expect more reliable results than on a cloudy night. I do find BB somewhat suspicious, but I'd believe Xtoxm-scum over BB-scum if only one of them were scum.

1. Well, this is what is says about cloudy,

Cloudy

-- It is overcast. Nice and cool, but not the best time to go to the beach or do some stargazing...

No universal effect during Cloudy conditions.

... My role doesn't specify any further information in regards to the weather affecting my investigations.

I hope this post clears up some of your questions, sorry that it was so long, but there were a lot of questions for me to address.

Currently I'm voting for Blackberry, but only because I don't buy the claim in the least bit, and that claim wouldn't be that hard to make up in a

themed

game.

[Blackberry]

Monkey -- if it is BS then how come no one has come forward and proven me a liar?

[Monkey]

Monkey -- if it is BS then how come no one has come forward and proven me a liar?

Because again it's an easy claim to make in a THEMED game, and also I didn't declare that it was bs, just that I think (or suspect for a better word) that it's bs. Isn't that what I'm supposed to do, register my thoughts?

I can't believe that that's all you had to say after my post.

[Twomz]

Blackberry, so far your track record suggests you are not telling the truth... just FYI.

vote: Blackberry

that's L-3. For reasons earlier, gorrad's post 158 (makes sense) and monkey's investigation (need to test eventually anyway, might as well be someone I find extremely scummy /shrug).

A lot of my suspicions on xtoxm rely on Blackberry being scum... so I think lynching him first would be ideal. But, that might just be me.

[Xtoxm]

I think Monkey is telling the truth, but dismissing the claim of being the only vanilla? seriously...

You could well have your results affected by the weather, I think it's likely, rather than just being paranoid/insane. You should try and figure out what the weather does to your investigation.

[farside22]

Weather Mafia Mechanics

The stuff you need to know...

Each day and each night will have a weather condition associated with it. These weather conditions may have an effect on general game mechanics and/or individual roles.

This was why I asked Monkey about his role. It seems it is implied that some roles are effected by the weather. It doesn't say all roles are effected but the fact that monkey got two guilties seems a little hard for me to believe. I think he may be insane or he is lying. I'm not sure if testing this theory is for the best.

Mod Edit: Quote tags fixed.
-Glork

[Blackberry]

Monkey -- if it is BS then how come no one has come forward and proven me a liar?

Because again it's an easy claim to make in a THEMED game, and also I didn't declare that it was bs, just that I think (or suspect for a better word) that it's bs. Isn't that what I'm supposed to do, register my thoughts?

I can't believe that that's all you had to say after my post.

It is the only evidence I have.

Just do me a favor and go back and read my Day 2 posts after I am dead.

My advice on those who you should trust:

Xtoxm

(I don't believe Mafia would have even CONSIDERED guessing taht NIV was godfather from my posts, which was in fact false, so why would Xtoxm be mafia?),

Hasdgfas

(Gut feeling, I can tell by the way he talks that he is a townsperson),

Monkey

(i've come to believe his roleclaim as his post on Day 1... but he is either insane or paranoid... WHO is Inspector Hound, exactly?).

.....

DO NOT TRUST:

Twomz

(Twomz is mafia, hands down. First bringing up Jester idea and his votes agaisnt me, I can tell by the way he talks that he has no real belief that I am mafia, he just wants me lynched)

Gorrad

(simply for not letting NIV talk, though I will admit it is a possibility Gorrad is not mafia)

Mod Edit: Font size fixed again. Do

NOT

use large font again, because it takes up unnecessary space.
-Glork

[armlx]

Vote Xtoxm

Based on the cop results + weather discussion, I'ld say this one seems right for today.

[Twomz]

Twomz (Twomz is mafia, hands down. First bringing up Jester idea and his votes agaisnt me, I can tell by the way he talks that he has no real belief that I am mafia, he just wants me lynched)

Hands down? Why is it a scum tell to bring up jester when it looks to you like someone is trying to get themselves lynched? What about the way I talk makes you think that I think that you aren't scum?

Normally, especially early in the game, believing someone to be scum isn't required for a wagon/lynch, only that there is sufficient evidence to show that they are acting scummy. Rarely will I be able to point at someone the first couple of days of a game and tell who specifically is scum and who is not... if it was obvious the game wouldn't be fun. It is true that you are my top lynch candidate, but it is because I think there is sufficient evidence to prove you are scum, not just because I think you are the scummiest acting player.

[Monkey]

I just wanted to point out these two posts so that they don't get lost ...

Sorry guys, Day 1 kind of passed by in a flash, I'm going to reread and then make a somewhat bigger post.

What happened? This post was made on wednesday ...

@Glork I will not be on until Saturday; I have exams and a birthday party.

Hopefully we'll get some added content finally from this guy.

These two players are just FUTR if you ask me.

[Xtoxm]

FUTR?

[hasdgfas]

@Twomz: The problem with Jester talk is that we have no evidence of a Jester at all. Jesters are much more common in open games where you know that they are there. If you find someone scummy, it is much more likely that they are scum than Jester, whether it's obvious scumminess or not. Unless we had evidence of a Jester in this game(which we don't), I would simply feel most comfortable lynching the player I think is scummiest, in this case Xtoxm for me. Jester talk just distracts the town, which is never a good thing.

[Monkey]

FUTR?

Flying under the radar

[Xtoxm]

FUTR?

Flying under the radar

Ah right. Yeh they have. I hate lurking as a strategy.

Mod please prod skitzer.

[Twomz]

@Twomz: The problem with Jester talk is that we have no evidence of a Jester at all. Jesters are much more common in open games where you know that they are there. If you find someone scummy, it is much more likely that they are scum than Jester, whether it's obvious scumminess or not. Unless we had evidence of a Jester in this game(which we don't), I would simply feel most comfortable lynching the player I think is scummiest, in this case Xtoxm for me. Jester talk just distracts the town, which is never a good thing.

There is acting scummy while trying to look town, and then there is acting scummy while trying to look town and get yourself lynched without anyone noticing that you want them to lynch you. When people act the second kind of scummy, the only logical reasons are 1) They are a jester 2) They don't want to play the game anymore 3) They have some sort of "when I am lynched" ability that they want to use 4) They are too stupid/newby to know wtf they are doing.

I eliminated 2 and 4, and since he said that he is just vanilla... Jester is more likely than bomber, or whatever the rolenames for people who do stuff when lynched is. I am not saying that he IS a jester, I am saying that he is acting like I would expect a jester to act. If you lynch people for acting like scum, why shouldn't you be cautious when they act like a jester?

Of course, this is all only somewhat relevant because the consensus is that Glork wouldn't put it in the game/doesn't go with the theme/they are usually in open games, but I still prefer to be careful then to not think of all the options.


On another note, what are all the players opinions on BB and xtoxm? Do you think both are scum? Just one? Neither? Is there another lynch candidate you want to push for? Is the majority of the town ok with a lynch of one of them? And if so, are we just letting the day go on for discussion while we wait for votes? Has everyone posted recently (actual posts, not just "I'm here, lol @ <player>")?

I think that there is a good chance that they are both scum. The only hitch to my thought on this is whether monkey is sane, insane or paranoid (or effected by the weather, and if so, what is the effect). I would prefer a BB lynch because most of my thoughts of xtoxm being scum depend on BB being scum, so I would be much less suspicious of him if BB were innocent, where if we lynch xtoxm and he is innocent, I would still think of BB as scum.