Open 680: C9++ (Abandoned due to mod error. See new thread)

[FireScreamer]

I kind of wish there was a tinfoil hat award for most paranoid post now

[FireScreamer]

Some real mental gymnastics to get away from a general reads list you posted on the same page.

[shannon]

It's OK, I'm always like this.

[shannon]

Do you not think scum coordinate things?

[FireScreamer]

That specifically without day talk?

[FireScreamer]

It would require all three of them to think of it independantly and them view it as worth doing.

[shannon]

The general idea of not all voting in the same place, though? I don't think that's a huge stretch.

Anyway I think it's bed time for me, at the moment I'm struggling to keep my eyes open. Night night.

[FireScreamer]

Like I don't know where you get that theory solely from the conclusion that scum are likely spread out

[FireScreamer]

It's such a bad theory that I am at least willing to day it would be hard to fake

[FrankJaeger]

@mod
Gotta semi VLA until tuesday.
Proposing to my GF of ten years on Sunday.

Noted and congrats!

[FireScreamer]

I'm lonely can we lynch frank out of spite?

[Umlaut]

Man, so much real life happening with people in this game.

Good luck Mr. Jaeger!

[davesaz]

@Fire, don't know if you noticed my questions a couple pages ago?

[CommKnight]

I gotta admit, I'm enjoying this warm weather we've been having. This is the 5th day in a row! Not even 2 weeks ago it was all snow. So yeah, I'm enjoying that weather while studying for my final exam of the semester (for the 25th). If you guys aren't doing some real life stuff, you should. It's not going to be this nice all spring. It's been clouding over in the nights and I suspect we're going to get quite the rainfall to come.

So my reads, let's do this so it's clear with people stand on my list.

Shannon, FireScreamer, DarkChocolate n PalmTree = Top TR's at the moment, today, there is no budging anymore on these ones. They are NOT options for voting. Also DarkChocolate is the IC, which I just remembered when I copy/pasted the list and seen the slot was TwoFace. He's been very active and been helping sort people. So I'm glad for that. Though even if he weren't IC, he's been playing well enough that I would've still TR'd him.

RoryMK, beeboy, davesaz = TR's. Nothing solid to lock them in yet, but you'd have to pull some very well done cases up on them to bring them any lower for today.

FrankJaeger, Ircher, Umlaut = Neutral. I'm not really feeling anything town from these slots. But I'm not really feeling anything that pulls me in to vote them right now either.

Green Crayons, Momo = SR's. If one flips scum, I'd be pushing for the other as well. This would definitely be a duo pair here.

Alchemist = TOP SR. Seriously, look at the case on him and his ISO. He still hasn't really owned up to his cases being for really NAI reasons. They've just been viable lynch candidates so he makes a reason to vote there. This is the slot I'd prefer to flip today out of the 3 SR's so far.

[CommKnight]

Also about the SK, if we have one this game, he'll probably claim Vigilante. This you must be careful of. Because if there is no town Vig to counter-claim him (well in other games there may be 2 vigilantes, although very very rare), he'll be able to skate by, by killing his 'scum reads'. So for those who haven't played with an SK in this set-up. Just be wary of second kills and vig claims.

[FireScreamer]

Can you quote it?

[FireScreamer]

To dave that is

[davesaz]

This one. I'm willing to go first if this makes you more comfortable. The reason I'm asking is that you're overtly sheeping the IC atm, and that makes me nervous.

Can you explain the Alchemist read? I saw in your iso that you agreed with someone else but nothing independent recently.

Question on Alchemist read was for FireScreamer.

PalmTree
GC/Comm
Rory
Ircher/ Beeboy
Frank/Dave/Umlaut
Shannon
Momo/Alchemist

Off the table is Rory and up. Aware that I'm likely too high on ircher based on one post but he's below the line and I'd be willing to settle for him if the case was argued well.

[FireScreamer]

I mean if you are gonna sheep the IC overtly seems like a good way to go.

Seriously though if you look at my ISO you'll see some Alchemist suspicion.

The heart of my read right now is essentially once Comm claimed I put him to very likely town and ircher to probable town. The main two things Alchemist did all game was push ircher and push Comm . He hasn't done a lot else. His reasoning on Comm seems twisted I already had some Alchemist suspicion of blending and I needed a new bogeyman.

[FireScreamer]

Honestly I think I answered that question in my head dave and forgot I never put it down in the thread.

[Alchemist21]

What do you think of the current state?

Feels kinda hectic to me. I think the high number of replacements has kept the game slightly unstable in the sense that people have constantly had to readjust for new players. I can understand the anti-momo sentiment that's caused their wagon but I want to see them post their thoughts first before I solidify a read there. Probably gonna reread the game tomorrow and see if I can pick up on anything I may have missed the first time around.

A lot has happened since the post I quoted 315. What was the basis of your current vote? Is there anything more to it than what you said previously?

Still reading the past few pages that came up but I'll answer this now. It was based on what I previously said, and I was trying to decide whether to go back to Shannon or Ircher and figured Shannon was more vote-worthy.

[Alchemist21]

I gotta admit, I'm enjoying this warm weather we've been having. This is the 5th day in a row! Not even 2 weeks ago it was all snow. So yeah, I'm enjoying that weather while studying for my final exam of the semester (for the 25th). If you guys aren't doing some real life stuff, you should. It's not going to be this nice all spring. It's been clouding over in the nights and I suspect we're going to get quite the rainfall to come.

So my reads, let's do this so it's clear with people stand on my list.

Shannon, FireScreamer, DarkChocolate n PalmTree = Top TR's at the moment, today, there is no budging anymore on these ones. They are NOT options for voting. Also DarkChocolate is the IC, which I just remembered when I copy/pasted the list and seen the slot was TwoFace. He's been very active and been helping sort people. So I'm glad for that. Though even if he weren't IC, he's been playing well enough that I would've still TR'd him.

RoryMK, beeboy, davesaz = TR's. Nothing solid to lock them in yet, but you'd have to pull some very well done cases up on them to bring them any lower for today.

FrankJaeger, Ircher, Umlaut = Neutral. I'm not really feeling anything town from these slots. But I'm not really feeling anything that pulls me in to vote them right now either.

Green Crayons, Momo = SR's. If one flips scum, I'd be pushing for the other as well. This would definitely be a duo pair here.

Alchemist = TOP SR. Seriously, look at the case on him and his ISO. He still hasn't really owned up to his cases being for really NAI reasons. They've just been viable lynch candidates so he makes a reason to vote there. This is the slot I'd prefer to flip today out of the 3 SR's so far.

How did you come to the conclusion that GC and Momo would definitely be scum together if one flips scum?

[davesaz]

So it's part scummy behavior and part PoE/sheep, that's reasonable. (let me know if I'm misinterpreting your position.)
I'm kinda in the same place with regard to having noticed things but not made notes.
In general it's a feeling that he is taking safe mainstream positions without putting anything into it. I'm not as concerned with voting pattern but I hope to have time to check that too.
It looked like he was posting helpful stuff at first, similar to previous games, but I don't remember what alignment he was in those games and in retrospect being helpful isn't AI.

Pedit: And currently?

[Alchemist21]

FireScreamer can I ask you something? This is something that's been slightly bugging me all game and I've been trying to let it slide but it still keeps bugging me. How come when it comes to the other players in this game you'll initiate a direct interaction with them but for me you always ask someone else about me? Like, the only time you've really engaged me was when you voted me and I started explaining myself to you, and even then it felt more like I was initiating it, and it was partly because of how you've been treating my slot that I did initiate it.

[FireScreamer]

It's mostly my own position Dave. I overtly let the IC bring me onto Alchemist from Momo but that's cause the bottom of my list was Alchemist/Momo and it was close enough to where sheeping the IC is correct.