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[rb]

i dont but ok, if u wanna scumclaim dats kool too

[Transcend]

im mafia

[rb]

Ez game. Im so terrifying scum just claim if i ask them to

[Transcend]

damn, dude

[Keyser Söze]

Two missing observations I failed to post earlier:

rb continues to talk about his own scum-hunting town meta. I usually don't like this behaviour but I am becoming very fond of this character.

Mewtaph offers the first reason to suspect zakk (exclusive of "gut"): for portraying "false bravado". [I still don't see it but I can see why Mewtaph didn't believe zakk's 'votes for me are better than votes on 1-vote wagons', so no sinister jump from Mewtaph here].



Now my consolidation on my reads (and vote):

Thoughts on WhemeStar:
- Demonstrated no hesitation to share his reads and make votes
- Shown an ongoing internal debate over momo (even going to the effort of digging up momo's previous games, something I haven't even looked at yet)
- has been happy to openly sheep a player (Nero Cain)
- maintained single-line posting style
- his voting doesn't seem opportunistic: some of his votes have gone against the grind. I wouldn't call them vanity as he's freely moved his vote around his null/scum reads.

But if there is one thing that WhemeStar does need to explore and share in detail given the VC is this:
"Woahhh guys I have a ground breaking discovery
Momo is town"


WhemeStar [Null town lean, would not lynch D1]

[Aristophanes]

I am bored.

Oops didn't mean to say that out aloud.

I feel like the former was meant for a scum pt and the latter was a cover-up for the mistake.

VOTE: Alban

[Mewtaph]

VOTE: alban

[Transcend]

VOTE: alban

[WhemeStar]

If your town you would sheep me

[Keyser Söze]

Thoughts on alban:

- Initial focus on spam-level and two nullish reads on Ircher and momo
- instead of sorting/voting either alban makes one of the worst votes of the game on WhemeStar (why spam-hunt over scum-hunt?)
- did not vote his "suspicions" (momo, keyser)
- Alban's reaction to Ramcius' pressure/scrutiny felt town-like (frustration fused with OMGUS).
- Since that town-read, Alban has not been an active/scum-hunting presence.
- I want more details on: "Townreading Creature for something he said on our faction's chat."
- Alban says he hates D1s: does this explain his non-presence on D1, and the resistance to actually push the players he finds suspicious? Alban's only real push was the OMGUS-fuelled counter-attack on Ramcius.
- Alban has not gone into more detail in regard scum-Ramcius. Alban presented a bulletpoint/passionate scum case on Ramcius but has since not encouraged people to join him on lynching 'scum'.

Bottom line: I am not happy with Alban's scum-hunting D1 performance. Alban's defence is 'I don't do Day One's'...

Here is Alban's defence in summary:

I dare you to lynch me. Find 10 people who will vote for me.

I will make it easy for you. I am not gonna provide any more content over the weekend. If you find enough number of people against me, I will have to leave. Let's see what you call it, if not a PL.

Alban knows we can't force a solid 'scum' lynch on him. We'd be lynching him on 1) his lack of content 2) Day 1 avoidance 3) pushing a spam-lynch instead of a scum-lynch.

[shos]

Alban is a good policy lynch, but I don't think he's actually done scummy stuff, only stupid/annoying stuff which are non-alignment related the way I remember..

Momo has reacted badly to pressure in the first half(?) of the game and ever since stopped posting, that is a good D1 lynch.

I don't recall anyone ever stating why they scumread me apart from not explaining why I scumread NC

whemestar is not a viable option right now, I think

I have absolutely no idea why people are voting zakk


all aboard momo

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: alban

[rb]

Alban is a good policy lynch, but I don't think he's actually done scummy stuff, only stupid/annoying stuff which are non-alignment related the way I remember..

Momo has reacted badly to pressure in the first half(?) of the game and ever since stopped posting, that is a good D1 lynch.

I don't recall anyone ever stating why they scumread me apart from not explaining why I scumread NC

whemestar is not a viable option right now, I think

I have absolutely no idea why people are voting zakk


all aboard momo

Alban is just a good lynch, period

[rb]

VOTE: alban

VOTE: alban

VOTE: alban

Two missing observations I failed to post earlier:

rb continues to talk about his own scum-hunting town meta. I usually don't like this behaviour but I am becoming very fond of this character.

Mewtaph offers the first reason to suspect zakk (exclusive of "gut"): for portraying "false bravado". [I still don't see it but I can see why Mewtaph didn't believe zakk's 'votes for me are better than votes on 1-vote wagons', so no sinister jump from Mewtaph here].



Now my consolidation on my reads (and vote):

Thoughts on WhemeStar:
- Demonstrated no hesitation to share his reads and make votes
- Shown an ongoing internal debate over momo (even going to the effort of digging up momo's previous games, something I haven't even looked at yet)
- has been happy to openly sheep a player (Nero Cain)
- maintained single-line posting style
- his voting doesn't seem opportunistic: some of his votes have gone against the grind. I wouldn't call them vanity as he's freely moved his vote around his null/scum reads.

But if there is one thing that WhemeStar does need to explore and share in detail given the VC is this:
"Woahhh guys I have a ground breaking discovery
Momo is town"


WhemeStar [Null town lean, would not lynch D1]

wow u r fond of me??

:::::::DDDDdDDDD

[rb]

oops didt mean to multiquote dat one

[rb]

these naked votes are 100% chance to be scum, but only if they received a scum role PM

[BTD6_maker]

UNVOTE:

I am not too lazy to remove it. No one else seems to find them suspicious, but that doesn't mean it doesn't matter.

I hate Day 1.

Anyway, an Alban wagon seems to have built up. First, rb's vote. Alban claimed to be too lazy to remove a vote. Now, it couldn't be that Alban simply forgot to unvote - they had mentioned unvoting in the same post. Clicking the unvote tag takes pretty much no effort. Thus there was probably some reason Alban wanted to keep a vote on Ramcius (maybe to mess with VCA?) but didn't want to give the reason to Town.

For Aristophanes' post, this is certainly possible. If a Town player said something harmless, they are less likely to try to retract it. Slips are certainly possible as scum. I remember in Open 679 I accidentally said that Aristophanes was WW "based on the posting". I thought I read someone pointing this out (that Aristophanes couldn't have submitted the NK and so was the most likely WW) in the thread, but then realised that it was in the Mafia PT (although I managed to get out of it by citing one of Aristophanes' posts suggesting he was WW). It seems possible that even after a harmless post intended for the PT Alban could have started to panic and try to retract it.

Alban is certainly a better vote.

VOTE: Alban

[Creature]

If alban said he's bad Day 1, wouldn't that mean he's a juicy lynchbait?

[shos]

This quickwagon smells of scum cw
They have daytalk; so this cw can be on both town or scum, but I am sure there are scum in this alban wagon

[Transcend]

THERE IS SCUM ON THIS WAGON

BUT I NO TELL U WHO

[Creature]

I think we better not lynch alban today.

[Mewtaph]

VOTE: momo
this dies today.

[Transcend]

dont expect a sucm flip here

but fuck it

VOTE: momo

[shos]

THERE IS SCUM ON THIS WAGON

BUT I NO TELL U WHO

Factually too lazy to even check who voted there lol

[momo]

Stop. Just Stop.