DoY I: British Monarchy Mafia (Mini 1896) - Game Over :O

[Empking]

Mastina was barely even playing.

The CW to fitz was CK. Every other wagon had ample time to develop a CW but there wasn't one. You can't call a wagon that happened in the last few hours the counter to a wagon that lasted all day phase. That's not how it works.

You're contradicting yourself here.

Where

CK happened in the last few hours. Having lasted 'all day phase'. CK cannot be the counter wagon to Having. Yet that is your first sentence.

(I'm not trying to be pedantic, I genuinely don't understand what you're saying.)

Well fitz was a town wagon. So obviously scum wouldn't have motivation to find a CW for that. It's possible that scum piled on fitz at the end to save CK (so fitz would be the CW to CK) but my main point is that fitz wasn't a counter to any other wagon.

Almost. Wrath.

[Infinity 324]

That doesn't count cause it isn't a counterwagon that was close to lynch until deadline. If almost or wraith was scum, scum would've been scared of people consolidating almost or wraith and tried to run up one on the other wagons harder. Instead the wagons stalled, making it look to me like scum were happy with the gamestate.

[Infinity 324]

Sorry if I'm not explaining it well but I swear I didn't invent this concept

[Almost Chara]

Well, I missed all the fun it seems. I obviously can't ask to know what happened that merited that nancy deletion or the farside modkill. But I must ask if that makes nancy conf!Town by any chance. Does it?

I think myself and Chara agree that CK is now most likely scum. I'd also say Wraith is, but Chara says it's Wraith or Empking. The third one is still Dreamlerz for me.

P.S. 3/3 Scums on the same wagon isn't a thing in my experience. Just saying.

~A50

[Infinity 324]

Farside replaced nancy

I like that scumpool but I still doubt wraith is scum.

What's the PS about?

[Almost Chara]

The PS was a response to Shepard's:

that means more than likely most of the scum if not all were on the havingfitz wagon.

~A50

[Empking]

That doesn't count cause it isn't a counterwagon that was close to lynch until deadline. If almost or wraith was scum, scum would've been scared of people consolidating almost or wraith and tried to run up one on the other wagons harder. Instead the wagons stalled, making it look to me like scum were happy with the gamestate.

Or they were already on Having and couldn't push it any harder.

[Infinity 324]

So you're saying either both almost and wraith are scum? That's unlikely just by statistics. If not, they could've just pushed whichever of those 2 was town.

[Empking]

So you're saying either both almost and wraith are scum? That's unlikely just by statistics. If not, they could've just pushed whichever of those 2 was town.

Pushing Wraith wouldn't have gotten them there any faster than pushing Having. Almost is scum.

[Tea and Biscuits]

Oh I'm not voting anyone yet.
Well if there's support for a Wraith lynch

VOTE: Wraith

Round 2

-- Postie

[Infinity 324]

So you're saying either both almost and wraith are scum? That's unlikely just by statistics. If not, they could've just pushed whichever of those 2 was town.

Pushing Wraith wouldn't have gotten them there any faster than pushing Having. Almost is scum.

If scum were pushing fitz and not wraith, that means there were more town votes on wraith than on fitz.

Why wouldn't scum just switch to wraith then? They could've used wraith's disengagement as an excuse.

Same thing the other way around.

If scum were pushing both, they could've consolidated and pushed a CW better that way.

There's no way that scum were unable to push a CW of any kind as long as town is voting town.

[Prism]

What a whirlwind of joy this has been.

Don't know whether to be sad about the Nacho death or happy that a scumread died. Probably more the former.

Tendency I've seen on MS is people going for more straightforward kills but I don't know how well that holds and have to think on it some more.

I'm pretty sure Empking is town.

[Empking]

So you're saying either both almost and wraith are scum? That's unlikely just by statistics. If not, they could've just pushed whichever of those 2 was town.

Pushing Wraith wouldn't have gotten them there any faster than pushing Having. Almost is scum.

If scum were pushing fitz and not wraith, that means there were more town votes on wraith than on fitz.

Why wouldn't scum just switch to wraith then? They could've used wraith's disengagement as an excuse.
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Same thing the other way around.

If scum were pushing both, they could've consolidated and pushed a CW better that way.

There's no way that scum were unable to push a CW of any kind as long as town is voting town.

They did push a counter wagon. Having got lynched. Yes they could have goes with the two townies voting Wraith rather than the two townies voting Having, but why should they? Having got lynched. They succeeded.

They pushed a counter wagon. Almost is still alive.

[Wraith]

WTF happened why did the modkill happen?

[Commander Shepard]

Well, I missed all the fun it seems. I obviously can't ask to know what happened that merited that nancy deletion or the farside modkill. But I must ask if that makes nancy conf!Town by any chance. Does it?

I think myself and Chara agree that CK is now most likely scum. I'd also say Wraith is, but Chara says it's Wraith or Empking. The third one is still Dreamlerz for me.

P.S. 3/3 Scums on the same wagon isn't a thing in my experience. Just saying.

~A50

It happens more often than you might think.

[Commander Shepard]

That modkilled was pretty gross for us btw. It's actually the day before mylo if we mislynch today.

Does that mean we massclaim or?

No.

[Commander Shepard]

VC 1.LYNCH!!!

HavingFitz

(7): Almost Chara 819, Wraith 905, Tea and Biscuits 1385, Shaddowez 1422, CloudKicker 1725, Infinity 324 1734, Prism 1751

Almost Chara

(3): Drealmerz 238, Empking 1036, Commander Shepard 1209

CloudKicker

(2): The Wood Cutters 1510, HavingFitz 1527

The Wood Cutters

(1): Farside22 1363

Not Voting

(0): Nobody!!!

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Day one ends Wednesday, April 12th at 6pm EST, or in (expired on 2017-04-12 18:00:00)

Mod Notes:

Doing this on mobile (just finished work). Man you guys get busy at deadline!
There appears to be a lynch!

So TWC, Farside22, and HavingFitz were all off the main wagon. That's three town. The game started with 13 players. That means 10 left. 2-3-4 scum probably 3 so that means more than likely most of the scum if not all were on the havingfitz wagon.

So I want to lynch someone one the fitz wagon.

So Drealmerz and Empking and myself are the only ones off the wagon alive.

I know I'm town and so if any of Drealmerz are Empking are scum it's likely only one of them.

That means at least two of AC, Wraith, T&B, Shaddowez, Cloudkicker, Infinity or Prism are likely scum.

Why does it make dreal or empking more likely to be town though?

VCA. Numbers alive. If two scum were on Almost Chara with me that doesn't make sense. Then all of Town conspired to lynch havingfitz and scum wouldn't vote Fitz except likely one. Which is ludicrous given three people off the wagon are dead.

[Commander Shepard]

What a whirlwind of joy this has been.

Don't know whether to be sad about the Nacho death or happy that a scumread died. Probably more the former.

Tendency I've seen on MS is people going for more straightforward kills but I don't know how well that holds and have to think on it some more.

I'm pretty sure Empking is town.

Prism and Empking likely same alignment.

[Commander Shepard]

WTF happened why did the modkill happen?

Guessing nancy posted after her replace out so something like that? I dunno but hunting that gets us no where.

[Commander Shepard]

Almost Chara

Wraith wagon sucks.

[Commander Shepard]

VOTE: Almost Chara

[Tea and Biscuits]

Infinity why am I not townreading you anymore

-- Postie

[Wraith]

Infinity why am I not townreading you anymore

-- Postie

Because you're tunnelling me to such an extent that it's bleeding into your other reads.

Should be a signal this is a bad path to you.

[Commander Shepard]

Infinity why am I not townreading you anymore

-- Postie

Because Infinity's scum probably.

[Commander Shepard]

VOTE: Infinity324