Open 680: C9++ (Abandoned due to mod error. See new thread)

[Umlaut]

And the same logic holds in the other direction. If Titus is scum, Shannon is scum because associatives; if Titus is town, Shannon is scum because VT PoE.

[Umlaut]

Why would we do that? Tentative no but walk me through the logic.

FireScreamer already took care of this by claiming VT so it's moot, but here it is:

• Assuming all PR claims on the board are true, there are exactly three VTs in the setup.
  
• Four people have seriously claimed VT.
  
• At least one of them is lying.

[FireScreamer]

That takes care of the too many townies problem. A question for the town. Should a VT now claim to make the lynchpool [Them/Titus/Shannon/Alchemist]

I think they should.

Why would we do that? Tentative no but walk me through the logic.

If umlaut is believed then there are 3 townie slots and 3 townie claims (i've since jumped the gun and made it 4)

[Umlaut]

Or, put more generally:

• We have enough claims (including VT claims) to say one of them is a lie.
  
• Probably scum would think they were safer to claim VT than anything else.
  
• Therefore probably one of the VT claims is a lie.

[Titus]

That takes care of the too many townies problem. A question for the town. Should a VT now claim to make the lynchpool [Them/Titus/Shannon/Alchemist]

I think they should.

Why would we do that? Tentative no but walk me through the logic.

If umlaut is believed then there are 3 townie slots and 3 townie claims (i've since jumped the gun and made it 4)

And this is scum.

I just realized, if FS is scum jumping the gun trying to make sure we lynch me over Umlaut and is hard defending Umlaut because partners, then the scumteam must be Umlaut, FS, momo. Then, an SK would be within GC or Alchemist or someone else repeatedly parked on my wagon.

[Titus]

Of course an SK would join the scumteam because Umlaut is strategically the best flip.

[Umlaut]

Upgrading GC to "Definitely town" for backing out of his stated intention to lynch me if anyone but Rory claimed RB. If he were going to back out as scum, there's no reason to make that commitment in the first place. This is a genuine change of heart.

[Umlaut]

Man it would be nice if that auto-VC were working.

[FireScreamer]

Yes titus. The 4 most prolific posters in the game all happen to disagree with you and are all scum.

[Umlaut]

Yes titus. The 4 most prolific posters in the game all happen to disagree with you and are all scum.

On the other hand how dope would it be if this were true now that you said it all sarcastic-like.

[FireScreamer]

Palmtrees are we lynching Umlaut today or not? Its pretty much 100% your call at this point. Titus advocates for it. I advocate against it.

[FireScreamer]

Yes titus. The 4 most prolific posters in the game all happen to disagree with you and are all scum.

On the other hand how dope would it be if this were true now that you said it all sarcastic-like.

[Titus]

Yes titus. The 4 most prolific posters in the game all happen to disagree with you and are all scum.

You're calling momo a prolific poster....lmfao

[FireScreamer]

Oh sorry. Just 3 out of 4. Forgot umlaut wasnt in your fantasy any more even though you still want to lynch him.

[FireScreamer]

Or alchemist even. Wonder how you are gonna turn on him when the VT pool closes in on you.

[Titus]

Oh sorry. Just 3 out of 4. Forgot umlaut wasnt in your fantasy any more even though you still want to lynch him.

I don't have a fantasy.

Umlaut is still scum, but even if I am wrong, scum do not want umlaut dead because momo is uninvested lurkerbait.

[Titus]

Or alchemist even. Wonder how you are gonna turn on him when the VT pool closes in on you.

I have had alchemist scum for since like when i subbed in.

[FireScreamer]

So scum is me alchemist momo umlaut and GC with no wiggle room at all 4/5 accuracy.

Town doesn't think like this.

[Titus]

So scum is me alchemist momo umlaut and GC with no wiggle room at all 4/5 accuracy.

Town doesn't think like this.

Now, you're whining about being obvious to me on sub in when everyone else TRed you.

GC is a null town due to his claim forcing the moves by Umlaut and momo. Doesn't make sense for buddies so he's in the sk or town area.

[FireScreamer]

Lynch me today then. When my belly turns green I want to see you turbo lynched day 2.

[FireScreamer]

I'm shrinking the VT pool today if I have to do it myself.

[Titus]

That's not the optimal action in the setup.

#LynchUmlautorBust

[FireScreamer]

Of course it isn't optimal. You don't want to lose a good mislynch tomorrow.

[FireScreamer]

And shrink your VT cover for night actions tonight/lynching tomorrow

[DarkChocolate n PalmTree]

Here are the claims we have so far:

Comm - 1-shot Doc (DD)
Umlaut - 1-shot RB (B)
Momo - RB (B)
Titus, Shannon, Alchemist, Fire - VTs

GC - PR (?)
Narna, Frank, Rory, davesaz - unclaimed

So, the setup is MDDBB?T is everyone is telling the truth (Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer). With 4 scum and 6 PRs, there'll be 3 VTs. @ Fire, your argument seems to be that if we believe all the PR claims, we know that there will be only three VTs and there are four claimed VTs so at least one of them must be scum. But that assumes that all the PR claims are true. I'm not sure I'm ready to make that leap yet but give me a bit to re-read.