Mini 1881 - Cult of Kira [Game Over!]

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VOTE: No Lynch

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Such an early confident read there 75.
I would ask why, but I'm pretty sure you'll give a standard cop out answer. Feel free to surprise me though.

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Well RC would obviously be culted.

Probably would have been best to keep that quiet for now as it would have been a failed recruit (?) but at least any town PRs can look else where.

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Gut says KuroiXHF is probably town.

Why? Kuroi would have reacted the same there either align. Or is it something else?

VOTE: Elena Fisher

I'm not feeling the TB wagon. The reasoning seems fabricated.

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Kuro is town that slip felt real I want to talk with fishy more to get a read on him but that's all I have for the moment

I agree, it was real. But I wouldn't put it past Kuroi to be cultist and not realise (I doubt this is the case, I'm just not ruling it out).

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Ah. Got it mason buddy

Does this mean you hard town read Titus?
Why? Not just because Titus town reads you I hope.

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Ima post tomorrow after I write my midterm btw.

I hope your mid term went all okay. Plenty to read today for you. Look forward to your view on things.

I don't like Grey as scum. Titus on the other hand, felt like that 248 was an easy enough distraction to move away from Elena. 160 was a nice vote and all, but lets face it, there's never any real threat at this stage.
178 is the only reasoning to voting Elena. And even then the reasoning is pretty weak. If Elena is scum too (which you are showing strong confidence in 250 / 276 / 296 then why are you changing your vote to Grey in this situation?
Is he currently more scummy than Elena? Do you think he needs the pressure more than Elena?

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Like beeboy, RC and 1SVT

yessiree doesn't take your fancy in that section? Why not?

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I would do either but I feel Grey passing the buck is worse.

Negative points for you if only one of Grey/Elena is scum.

I'm not worried about negative points going onto me, and neither are you going to use that as a tactic to make me back off or agree with you.
I've already said that I don't like Grey for scum right now, so yeah, that highly suggests that I think only 1 of them is scum.

Explain to me how Grey is trying to pass the buck more? And if both scum, what's it matter? It just seems as an opportunity to jump off Elena.

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yessiree atleast towned up, you didn't.

I'm sad to hear.
Explain the town read from yessiree.

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Dear cult: Please take me and Titus to 3-way LyLo. I will insta-vote her and congratulate you on your win.

206 - Which one is it?

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I'll grab the post.

Why would I jump off one scum onto the other as scum? That's three scum, in a cult game on day 1? Really?

If that's that, we're fucked even if my reads are accurate.

I think you mis understood my question.
I'll go over it again.
If you're town (role playing here) then why are you switching vote from 1 scum to another? You believe Elena and Grey to both be scum, yet you are trying to push pressure only onto Grey and away from Elena right now.
And no, I don't consider you calling them both scum without reasoning on Elena as pressure.

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I don't give a shit which is lynched. Grey's posts were objectively worse.

No, Elena just stopped posting while Grey carried on.
I don't see how Elena's actions this game are less scummy than Grey's in your eyes.

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@Creature - 321

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RC thinks I recruited Titus and then proceeded to lynch her because loose ends?

Was Titus close to a lynch?

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Okay, post more so I can get better reads.

Keep ignoring my posts, sure.
It just shows that you can't explain your town read 317

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Oh, you think I'm voting her just for show

Wasn't my question.
I'm not saying here that you are scum who recruited Titus. I'm asking if Titus was close to being lynched? Your post 359 suggests that a Titus lynch seemed the most plausible option.

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VOTE: Creature

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@mod - standard weekend V/LA

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@Creature: you seem remarkably sure that I'm cult leader

That's because Creature is probably scum.

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@1SVT: why Creature?

Because the 4 names he's confident that has scum seems more of a push on bigger threats to him this game.
He only took my name off when I voted him, so he was probably hoping I'd hop off else where.

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@Grey - Fish looks obvious town. Vote with me. Or yessiree would be acceptable.
I don't like Fishy, RC or Crystal as scum.

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@1shot - What do you think of Kuro?

He doesn't ping me as scum.

VOTE: yessiree @Creature - Lets vote here then. Lets see if you're just giving the name or willing to actually vote yessiree like in 564

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@Mod - Standard weekend V/LA

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Anyone have the current VC?

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RC, why are you trying to flashwagon when deadline is looming?

Why are you directing this question at only RC instead of Elena too?
Unless you think the prior 1 vote on RC makes an RC wagon something different than a flash wagon?

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because I think RC got some speed.

What speed?

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UNVOTE: yessiree
I don't like this vote any more.

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VOTE: Creature

Just follow me to a good lynch.

Crystal Allies town, that's a town Varsoon.
I would vote Grey too, maybe Peabody.

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I never said scum together. But I'm thinking it now.

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I would suggest you read my post again but you got way too defensive and read something there never was for me to think town.

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Creature has the death note today and Grey doesn't want attention there. Classic.

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I'm curious what's making this 'town' Varsoon to you--I don't think we've ever played a game together, unless my memory is crap.

Why would you vote Grey or Peabody?

-V

A lot of games.

I town read everyone else.

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...what games?

Okay, why are you town-reading everyone else such that you've PoE'd it down to those two?

Doesn't matter.

It's actually 3 names I don't town read. I voted Creature in that same post.
I think Creature has the deathnote. It's also clear that they didn't recruit last night and killed instead showing that the cultists are not primary targets for lynching today.

This rules out
You
RC
Fishy

yessiree is confirmed for today only

Random is and Elena strike me as town. You can challenge this if you like.

So that leaves Peabody and Grey as scum (Cultists, call it whatever you want).
Keep in mind, with failing to recruit and killing instead last night there is only 2 scum. Creature and Grey would make sense in the safety option of just killing and not recruiting, but also killing the Titus slot takes less from them when it comes to focus.
There's so much more I can put about from day 1 concerning Creature, Grey and Titus and I'll do it if I get a chance on V/LA.
Grey also got way too defensive from my post of voting Creature and saying I'd vote him, maybe Peabody.

More votes on Creature, please and thank you.

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I like how he accuses me of defending Creature but has yet to show where I've... defended Creature.

I said defending the post where I voted Creature and said I'd vote you.
You can keep trying to twist this into something else, you just look worse each time.

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Feel free to bus though and vote Creature with me. But I assume your view of Creature will be scummy, just not as scummy as me.
Here, hold this nail for me... I'm about to hit it on the head.

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@Mod - weekend V/LA

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Then lynch Creature.

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1122 - Calling Creature scum
1137 - Doesn't like the thought of Creature being lynched.

Open your eyes everyone...

Creature has the deathnote, Grey is also scum.
It really is that easy.

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So you're saying that either way you're scum, Creature just has a high chance of being scum too?

I'm okay with lynching Grey if people will ignore the fact that Creature is scum.

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We have 4 days to go, and the fact that Elena is the leading wagon makes me want to cry.

Considering that 1076 / 1077 / 1078 are the votes on Elena.

Grey and Random were opportunist to the next level.
Grey just voting because Varsoon is, and Random voting because others were. If Elena was your scum read, why did you need 2 other people to vote there before you did?

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i acc scumread you more. but play today and yesiree switched it to elena. her posting today has been scummier than yesterday.

What play of mine changed your mind before you voted Elena?

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@Random - And why can't me and Elena be scum together?

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Holy shit, anyone here that thinks Creature is town after all of that... Unplug your computer, turn off your phones and just stop using the internet.

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VOTE: Crystal Allies

We are not lynching Elena today.

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Because you want town lynched, we get it.

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RC has done everything under the sun when it comes to Mafia... You could give examples on most things.

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Elena is Kira. RC was recruited. I solved the game. Town, lynch these two if you wanna win.

Chop chop.

- Carnelian

If CA is cult, this is a slip that there are only 2 btw...

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Creature
Random
Peabody
Fishy

These are the 4 (2, look below) I'll lynch today.

I doubt Yessiree would have been recruited, too obvious.
RC wouldn't have been with that claim.
Elena again, an obvious recruit.
Grey wouldn't have been recruited imo. Too must of a risk at this stage to take on.

If Creature wasn't scum before, he is now.
Random is scum in this situation.
Peabody / Fishy could have just been recruited so I most likely won't vote there over Creature or Random.

VOTE: Random
RC was lying, right?

elena and yesiree would be the choices for last nights recruit if there was one.

alternatively the recruit hit police.

How do you know that Elena isn't part of the police?

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Elena Fisher (4) - randomidget, Crystal Allies, Creature, -Grey-

If anyone believes that there wasn't 2 (3?) scum on this wagon... Then I don't know what to think about humanity anymore.

Crystal Allies (3) - RadiantCowbells, Elena Fisher, 1 Shot Vanilla Town

This was the counter wagon.
A flipped scum... It's not a game where bussing is of benefit unless your hand is forced.

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In fairness, Varson probably would recruit Titus... And Yume for that matter.

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We could do a test on Grey.
Put him to L1... if he self hammers he's town if he doesn't he's scum.

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I still don't favour a Grey lynch though.

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@Elena. Give me your full read and opinion on Creature, please.

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@mod - standard weekend V LA

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I mean sure elena but seriously dude?

I just want to know. Between you and Elena, I'll probably follow your leads here over anything else.
Just want to know what you both think of Creature overall and I read yours clearly.

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you were obviously the pregame recruit. i don't know why i'm the only one who saw it

I called Creature scum all game

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If I'm not mistaken cult are at 3 people so yes I am fishing the masons from you because we have no point in hiding them
I already know one of them

Nice slip.

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Anyway I was recruited last night or night 3 it's the only possible way so I don't think I could be Dn holder? correct me if wrong.
Pedit: Okay honeybunch

Why couldn't you a have been recruited night 2 and given the book last night?

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I don't see it.
Do you have anything else with it? Grey is pretty far down my lynch pool right now.

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Also, opinions on both Yessiree and Elena from yesterdays and todays interactions?

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I'm not.

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Votecount 4.3

-Grey- (1) - Peabody

Not Voting (7) - Elena Fisher, randomidget, FishytheFish, RadiantCowbells, -Grey-, yessiree, 1 Shot Vanilla Town

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Current deadline is Monday, April 3rd at 9PM EDT.

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right now I think that the lynch pool is (Grey, 1svt, Peabody, Fishy, Elena)

Why Elena over Yessiree?

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At least we know that Random is 100% cult now.
It's just a case of does he have the DN or not.

I think yes.
And if he does, that means that Peabody gave him it last night.

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VOTE: Random

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i forgot yesiree could be cult ive been treating them as an IC

Why would you consider them as IC?

reasoning for this?

Because look at your pushes. Look at your interactions.
Grey is the easy target today so you go there. You were playing as if you didn't have the DN before today, but today is all about lynching a town member for you.
RC could have said any name here and voted before you got on and you would have made a bad reason to also vote there.
"Because Beeboy would have been recruited and now gave it to Grey" is not the reason for you to start pushing Grey now.

You were pushing Elena with CA and even called RC a liar when the wagon swapped to CA. You have not expressed your concern on Peabody being the obvious DN holder until today and everytime you have called Peabody scum, you have cast more shade on someone else being scum (This is a typical scum trick called distancing).

You should have been the lynch yesterday, but as you said 702 you don't get lynched much.

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sooo 1svt is just going to leave and not defend himself.

I know Random well enough to know this is 100% scum Random with this comment.

You fucked up Random.

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I prefer to scum hunt.
Yessiree - Opinion on Randon.

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Read on Random please

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No take your time. I will however request it everyone you post about something else.
People have a habit of ignoring read requests so I like to keep up on it.

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No just Random.
I don't want to take up too much of your time.

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I do wonder though how you have decided that me and Random can't be on the same side if you have no read on him yet...

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Explain?
You think that the scum team can't only be Fishy/Grey/Elena/Peabody? Any combo.
And that I'm not just town with an incorrect read?

You would have to already have a read on Random to decide that there's scum in me or Random. But yet you give the impression you haven't even read him this game?

Tell me, do you still think Peabody is town?

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I love how opinions alter when I call it out.
However, I'll leave you to keep reading up on Random's 62 posts. Let me know when you have a view on him and his interactions.

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he got conf towned and i forgot he could be recruited. i made a mistake.
within that post i pushed peabody, then grey, then elena. that post wasn't a readslist so much as a thought process. I'm probably going to look at that tomorrow and see which parts i want to push. you over reacted hugely and just decided to jump on an easy push. Do i really call out like 2/3 of the game as cult if im town in a readslist. I think that 1svt is probs cult and panicked because I was onto his buddies. Probably makes the team Peabody, 1svt and Elena/grey/yesiree/fish. annoyingly i think the last one is the one with the deathnote.

Elena was more or less confirmed after the push there. Why yessiree and not Elena?

You "pushed" Peabody? Show me the push on Peabody.

When did you out 2/3 if scum?

So how about we agree here that 1 of us is scum? Yessiree is willing to vote between us 2 as well I believe? Or maybe I mis read that part.

i have two scum games which can legitimately be used as meta. Those are basically my entire scum experience on site so whoever you are you can't meta me that confidently.

I know you well enough. You fucked up.

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That is fantastic... but give me a read on Random not on me.
As a solo read, ignore me for a second. Do you think Random is town or scum? Pretend that I was confirmed town for a second.
Does this still fall under there is scum in me and Random?
What else did you return from Random's ISO?
Again, I am not asking for me, you can save that for who cares.

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Saying someone is scum is not pushing them.
Show me the post again I will point out why it's not a push.

Oh? You're not 100% on me now? Funny that. You just said that it is me Peabody and 1 other.

Why do you think I wouldn't hold the DN btw?

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Fantastic!

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Hmmm talk to me about it. You think RC pushed CA for town credit?
I think if RC is lying the real masons would have outted him.

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Yeah RC claimed that. But why would you bring attention to that part alone?
I think you need to re read RC's iso

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Peabody - decently strong gut town read from his replace in and later scumhunting. Also, voted Crystal at a fairly key time here.

He also unvoted at 1036 when there was an additional vote on CA with 1030

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Disagree

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wouldnt they be more likely to give it to a later recruit who likely looked more town?

Depends, would you have considered yourself as looking town?

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If there's 4, we lost because it's impossible to get majority vote.

4 wouldn't be possible with CA handing the book over aswell.

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Who are we lynching, RC?

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3) The Death Note can be passed off temporarily (

for one night

) without preventing the Death Note from being used to kill or recruit that night.

For one night, not one night cycle.
So no, there can't be 4.

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You win when all living players support Kira, or nothing can prevent that from happening.

4 would also mean this.
So no, there is not 4.

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Okay, I'll vote Grey if needed.

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Votecount 4.7

randomidget (1) - 1 Shot Vanilla Town

Not Voting (7) - Elena Fisher, randomidget, FishytheFish, RadiantCowbells, -Grey-, yessiree, Peabody

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Current deadline is Monday, April 3rd at 9PM EDT.

Mod Notes:

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Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying I'll lynch you because you're scum. I still don't think you are.
I'm just saying I'll vote you today if RC goes there.

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I just think it makes no sense to be able to give the DN away as temp and it having the same effect, if not better as handing it over fully.
Why would you give up your night options in this situation?

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I believe Elena.

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Mo

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You don't die if your cult I think.

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Well, this is fun.

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@Mod - Standard Weekend V/LA

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yessiree, if scum, can't be holding the note today.

Why?

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my scumpool: Fishy, random, Peabody

I thought I was scum?

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Btw RC, here's my reads

Town
RC
Elena
Grey
Fishy

Scum
Random (Spoiler - DN holder)
Peabody

If 3 scum
Yessiree

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If yessiree was recruited n2, wouldn't he be the likeliest note holder?

Which of the three slots are the likeliest pregame recruit, knowing Varsoon was the original Kira? Who would Varsoon be most likely to entrust the game to?

Who has the reads they are likely to draw the least amount of scrutiny?

I'm not asking because I suspect you, I'm asking because I'm interested in your opinions now that I'm coming around to a townread on you.

Why yessiree over Random?
Either seem safer options than Peabody. With Creature pointing fingers at Peabody, they probably expect pressure there. For me, Random is acting like the DN holder today.

Peabody (Beeboy) Varsoon plays more in confort with people he knows (standardly with anyone, but Varsoon is not going to pick a stranger over a known face). I think Random was recruited night 2 (or even night 1?), and Yessire night 3. TB said that he could post messages at night. Either he lied and was pre game recruited (doubtful) or he was recruited later when Random took over. Not to mention that Momo (Titus) had the same role

As Random said himself, he doesn't get lynched much. I think it would be Random.

Yessiree's earlier interaction concerning scum in myself and Random just leads to trying to distance, but then again Yessire hasn't had the best opinions this game imo, so that's why I think Yessiree scum only if there are 3 left. I don't understand the sudden switch either, as now I'm not scum for Yessiree?
Peabody has been no better. Tries to paint Random as town with no evidence to why. After it's all being brought to attention that Random can be the DN holder, has Random in the lynch pool because he could have been recruited night 2, but still wants to lynch you over Random.
If at 3, scum lynch you, recruit tonight, win tomorrow.

They seem more concerned on pushing focus away from Random rather than pushing away from Peabody or Yessiree.

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Also, I have a role that is confirmable. Please don't make me claim.

Claim: Newscaster
Each night I can send something to the moderator to post at the start of each day.

My alignment and role is literally comfortable. Off my wagon please

Hello, this is momo. I am confirming that I am town. We should unite against yesiree. RC is town. Grey and Titus also seems town. If an investigative role has found something, claim. If there are many, only one claim.

momo, a Town Messager, had a heart attack Night 1.

@Random - What's your view on this?

@Mod - Can you confirm that Random replaced ThinkBig 510 and Agent Sparkles replaced Titus493?

The message from Momo says Titus seems town, meaning that Momo was originally TB, right?
The only reason I stopped thinking that Titus would have been night 0 recruit is because I thought the Titus slot was dead.

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Votecount 4.9

randomidget (1) - 1 Shot Vanilla Town

Not Voting (7) - Elena Fisher, randomidget, FishytheFish, RadiantCowbells, -Grey-, yessiree, Peabody

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Current deadline is Monday, April 3rd at 9PM EDT.

Mod Notes:

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Okay, so why have you not used your power?

What's your opinion on Momo talking about Titus as if Momo wasn't the Titus slot?

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i genuinely forgot to -_-

Pleeeeeeeese

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I originally thought TB must be town (Day 1) for the way he claimed. It reeked of someone who thought that his claim showed he was town (even if that was a weird thing to think).

Though the Town Messenger flips makes me doubt that. Mod WIFOM may be unwise, but two roles that similar seem more likely to be opposite alignments than the same.

It's more the fact that it hasn't been used once.
And now it could be LyLo Random says that he will prove it tomorrow?
Who forgets to use a power that clears them as scum for 3 nights in a row?

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1shot breadcrumbed in post 77.

Because it has the word "cop"?
Get out of here.

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my bad... I meant the nightly news

I didn't even notice that one. +1

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Are we lynching Random yet?

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@yessiree - Say that the following players didn't have the deathnote

-1SVT
-yessiree
-Grey
-RC
-Fishy
-Elena
-Peabody

Who do you think would hold the book? Whoever you choose, we should lynch imo.

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hinted he investigated you in 311.

I investigated him on day 1?
I hope no one believes this shit...

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But you said that you thought my day 1 post was a clear on Grey.
My day 1 post...
My post on day 1...
A post that I posted day 1...
Day 1...

You get my point.

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@Mod - Normal weekend V/LA

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Or just not DN holder. Random will want that town credit if so.

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Well If it's not over, I'm sure you will prove you being town tonight with your ability.

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Got it.
If Random can confirm himself, then Grey or yessiree it is.

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@Snarky - Just to confirm, the lynch wasn't an April fools joke...

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Votecount 5.2

Not Voting (7) - RadiantCowbells, Elena Fisher, 1 Shot Vanilla Town, -Grey-, FishytheFish, randomidget, yessiree

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Current deadline is Wednesday, April 20th at 9PM EDT.

Mod Notes:

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So Random can have a pass for today.
Although it's plausible that scum have that ability, the way TB spoke about it tells me that it's more of a town role. I won't set that thought in stone though.

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So Elena today. Seems like a safe bet.

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really? I read it more as the fear of being unable to play an interesting role as scum.

So you like Random over Elena?

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No, I think we should lynch Elena, just pointing out the obvious that we shouldn't be holding our breath on a DN flip considering she saw this coming.

Do you believe there to only be 2 cult then, not 3?

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I have no idea where that question even comes from.

I believe there to be more than just Elena as cult, hence Elena not likely to be the DN holder. As far as how many more, I have no fucking idea because it kinda depends on whether scum tried to recruit a cop or not.

Well lets put it this way. If there's 3 cult, we want to lynch to DN holder or most likely lose tomorrow.
I wanted to know what your opinion was on the situation for you to go "Meh, lynch someone without the DN".

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Did Elena just give up the DN holder in a bluff attempt?

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That got to L1 pretty easily considering the chances of 3 cult.

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I only see yessiree as scum if both Elena and Grey are. Which means yessiree doesn't have the DN anyway. Plus I don't believe this to be the situation anyway.
I think lynching Grey is actually a good shout here.

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Which one do you favour?

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Votecount 5.4

Not Voting (7) - RadiantCowbells, 1 Shot Vanilla Town, -Grey-, FishytheFish, randomidget, yessiree, Elena Fisher

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Current deadline is Wednesday, April 20th at 9PM EDT.

Mod Notes:

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@Mod-normal V/LA for weekend.

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The only people I will hammer at L1 going into today is Elena or Grey as it stands.

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Because I'd absolutely be holding the note, knowing that confirmed town RC has blood lust in his eyes to kill me.

Totally makes sense.

So will you vote Elena then?

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Although I think the "Grey claimed cult" is far fetched, I don't rule out the DN holder being Grey. This is because we are going.to be thinking today "What would scum do" more than anything.

Elena makes sense as a DN holder over Grey though.

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Well I think if we lynch Elena and then Grey if not over we win anyway, right?

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Good point. I back that.

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VOTE: Grey

I'm not going to give another 2 weeks of nothing being posted.
I'm happy with lynching Grey today.

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Lynch away.

You heard him.
No point in delaying the day unless anyone has anything to add.

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UNVOTE: Grey

Cool, I look forward to 2 weeks of nothing.

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I still think RM or Yes should be the lynch here

But Grey...
We should lynch here.

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Why?

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But you are going by theory. Which could easily be wrong.
Grey hasn't been in a position to defend, and even now he's not in a position to buddy and divert attention from (although.you are doing what you are arguing by saying he's not the DN holder).
We also don't know how many scum are left. We can see when we start voting him.

Unless you give me a logical reason to vote anyone over Grey, this is where I'm voting today.

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3rd Kira has the deathnote I'm pretty sure and I don't see why Grey gets the DN from Pea plus no one has defended him much this game if any at all I feel like if Grey had the DN people would be a bit more "NO GREY IS TOWN"

i was ran up multiple times yesterday. why would i have it?

Given that I said it could clear you by you posting at night could be a reason although I think it's too much of a risk if you were the DN holder.
But there's a weak reason, if at least.

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Okay you can get lynched then.

Then vote me.

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So Grey isn't scum?

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Oh. So someone is saying "NO GREY IS TOWN" just like scum would be doing?

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Grey hasn't been in a position to defend

That's kinda why I wouldn't have the note, isn't it?

It's more of a reason to have it.
Why give it to someone under pressure instead of someone not being focused?
I thought you didn't care anyway?

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When we lynching Grey then?

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I fully agree with the above 2.
I feel that making everyone wait yesterday killed the game and the moment it starts to come back, you kill it.

I'm happy to lynch Grey and accept it as a win or loss, which ever one turns up.

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I'll hammer Grey at L1, no questions asked.

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Why you would you care if RC is wrong if he's voting who you want dead?

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If scum are Random yessiree and Elena I suggest voting Grey as I'll hammer.
Even if town I suggest it.

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How many votes on Grey?

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I'm not hammered yet.

What are you going to do about it?

I just checked, you're at L2.
I'll hammer after 1 more vote.

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For someone who doesn't care about being lynched, you are being very vocal here, Grey.

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You're were playing the "I don't care if I'm lynched" tactic for credit. That was dumb.

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VOTE: grey

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GG Elena and yessiree, we got it!

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I have no idea why no one questioned me.

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UNVOTE: grey

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VOTE: Random

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No. And your response was fake AF.

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Sure!

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I'm so glad that we could work together here, Elena!

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RC, Grey lets vote Random.
You think it's Random , right RC?

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Votecount 5.11

randomidget (2) - 1 Shot Vanilla Town, Elena Fisher
-Grey- (1) - randomidget

Not Voting (4) - FishytheFish, yessiree, -Grey-, RadiantCowbells

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Current deadline is Wednesday, April 20th at 9PM EDT.

Mod Notes:

None!

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Thinking is over rated.

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I've been called a lot of alts in such short time.

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GG Grey and Elena, we won!

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I was so sure that Random gave himself up and would have preferred his lynch over Peabody. I even tried to say in mason chat how that was scum Random.

Random gave the game away.
Yessiree, Peabody and Random. Random has DN.

The dragging out of the last 2 days killed the game and even made me over think and doubt my read on Random.

Thanks all for the game and thanks Snarky for modding.

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So what did you guys do last night?

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Ah okay. I was thinking Fishy was shot.

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Surely you can only pass to already recruited?

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We can't take any actions on nights after a Kira died, which hamstrung us in terms of being able to kill masons and recruit :/

Ah, that explains the lack of recruiting.
How did the first kill happen? I'm still confused on that one.

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I say remove the 3rd mason.
Keep the BP on a non mason, don't tell pre game that there are masons.

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Wait, didn't we lynch Peabody yesterday?
How did you recruit yessiree?

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Wait, didn't we lynch Peabody yesterday?
How did you recruit yessiree?

I'm town

You played with my heart, yessiree!

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@Random - Any idea who you would have recruited if we lynched Grey today?
After reading the scum thread it was confirmed that me and RC were masons, and Fishy was highly thought of as a mason.
Would have left Elena or yessiree for you

Also, sorry Creature. I had a bad read on you. If it helps though, I didn't vote you on the day of your lynch.

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i was going to start killing masons. if i kept recruiting we lost. i knew you three were the masons so i would have had to recruit one then get you to lynch the other.
ideally i wouldve killed you (fishy and rc lowposting killed non mason participation) then lynched elena or yes, killed rc and lynched the other.

Could have been a really good setup for you there.
Fishy was the BP, so keeping him last of the 3 would have been a good shout (obviously with limited information).
I think you could have pulled it off as I suspect Elena and yessiree would have been at each others necks depending on how RC lead the day.

Another game, another situation I guess!

Nice try though, there were many times I was reading over the game and pulling my hair out from frustration of hitting a dead end.
I think this is going to be the last cult game for a very long time for me as it's just so hard to keep up with reads and adapt properly.
If I wasn't a mason in this game, I may have put more early game focus on poking out the DN holder, but I think I would have struggled a lot more and probably be a worthy lynch.

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I don't think I got a single read wrong this game
gg everyone

Apart from yessiree today, of course?

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It's because yessiree should have been lynched but town cop was instead.

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It was good for town to have a confirmed, but on the flip side, yessiree was suspect for it going forward into the game.
This could have been used to cult advantage with the following day.