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Boonskiies · Post Post #2225 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:28 pm

In post 2216, -Grey- wrote:
In post 2214, Boonskiies wrote:Just stating, that the fact that I'm having such a hard time getting people onto PZ from the remaining 5 of you off of it, kind of shows that he's scum.
Fallacious logic.

It's also quite likely that others simply don't share your opinion.

Zito looks pretty town to me.

So? Everyone looks town to me. You know how many times I've been town read solidly at this point in the game? A lot. A lot a lot.

keyenpeydee · Post Post #2226 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:36 pm

Zito really feels town.
But it's a MoI slot and Boon's forever town.

ZZZX · Post Post #2227 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:04 pm

I don't really have anything else to add at this point. I can answer questions if anyone has any. But in general am still conflicted on key v PZ..

If within a few days none goes on with key I will trust boon's judgement and go on PZ.

massive · Post Post #2228 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:59 am

In post 2207, -Grey- wrote:
In post 2206, massive wrote:I need to reread both of these and will do so first thing in the morning. My gut instinct is keyenpeedee.
How do I make sense as scum with key?

Well I'm sure I can figure out some way, but I'm at least going to try and be objective. But this is WIFOM at best and you know asking it has no good answer.

Papa Zito · Post Post #2229 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:09 am

In post 2228, massive wrote:
In post 2207, -Grey- wrote:
In post 2206, massive wrote:I need to reread both of these and will do so first thing in the morning. My gut instinct is keyenpeedee.
How do I make sense as scum with key?
Well I'm sure I can figure out some way, but I'm at least going to try and be objective. But this is WIFOM at best and you know asking it has no good answer.

So be objective and give him an answer. That was a pure dodge.

massive · Post Post #2230 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:31 am

First things first:

In post 1592, Human Sequencer wrote:
Votecount 2.4

momo
: keyenpeydee, -Grey-,
Elena Fisher

In post 1652, Human Sequencer wrote:
Votecount 2.5

momo
: keyenpeydee, -Grey-,
Elena Fisher
, MagnaofIllusion

In post 1750, Human Sequencer wrote:
Votecount 2.6

momo
: keyenpeydee,
Elena Fisher
, MagnaofIllusion, Cooperative Sheep,
Titus
, -Grey-

1595 and 1598 don't sound like what scum would say when directly following their partner onto a town wagon. And I don't think that would be lost on MOI-scum.

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In post 2066, Human Sequencer wrote:
Votecount 3.4

CloudKicker
: Boonskiies, Cooperative Sheep, -Grey-, Keyenpeydee,
CloudKicker

I feel like this has another scum on it. Otherwise I don't see the benefit of CK self-hammering.

massive · Post Post #2231 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:39 am

In post 2229, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 2228, massive wrote:
In post 2207, -Grey- wrote:
In post 2206, massive wrote:I need to reread both of these and will do so first thing in the morning. My gut instinct is keyenpeedee.
How do I make sense as scum with key?
Well I'm sure I can figure out some way, but I'm at least going to try and be objective. But this is WIFOM at best and you know asking it has no good answer.
So be objective and give him an answer. That was a pure dodge.

I'm trying to figure out why you want to be involved in this. I don't feel like you have an investment in me being scum or in Grey being scum so -- why is this important to you specifically?

Papa Zito · Post Post #2232 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:59 am

In post 2231, massive wrote:I'm trying to figure out why you want to be involved in this. I don't feel like you have an investment in me being scum or in Grey being scum so -- why is this important to you specifically?

You're dodging again.

Also I've already stated I think you're ZZZX's partner so bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Boonskiies · Post Post #2233 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:03 am

I already pointed out the benefit of scum not being on it. To avoid having them have to comment on it. One could be on it, sure, but not both. It makes no sense for Cloud to self hammer in that position at all. If scum was on the wagon, why wouldn't they just try and make a case elsewhere. There were other options. I was having a super annoying time trying to get that Elena lynch to go through.

Boonskiies · Post Post #2234 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:04 am

And now PZ/massive looking like scum theatre.

Boonskiies · Post Post #2235 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:07 am

In post 349, Boonskiies wrote:I'm a fucking 1 shot BP, you idiots.

would be just hilarious if this turns out to be true, wouldn't it scummies?

ZZZX · Post Post #2236 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:10 am

Woo Boon's Wifom gambits

Me Gusta

Papa Zito · Post Post #2237 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:10 am

Confirmation bias is a terrible thing.

ZZZX · Post Post #2238 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:12 am

In post 2237, Papa Zito wrote:Confirmation bias is a terrible thing.

It can be. But at times It can be the confidence that helps pin down scum

massive · Post Post #2239 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:14 am

I'm re-reading keyenpeydee and got to the point where Twoface outs the masons and the immediate reaction. This is just another example of Grey pushing a non-town agenda (following Boon catching the "scum slip" on 1042, begging MOI to walk him out of reasonable explanation of masons in 1048), and another reaction from Magna that doesn't seem scum-fueled (1050)

Is that confirmation bias? Can someone else re-read that segment?

ZZZX · Post Post #2240 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:16 am

In post 2239, massive wrote:I'm re-reading keyenpeydee and got to the point where Twoface outs the masons and the immediate reaction. This is just another example of Grey pushing a non-town agenda (following Boon catching the "scum slip" on 1042, begging MOI to walk him out of reasonable explanation of masons in 1048), and another reaction from Magna that doesn't seem scum-fueled (1050)

Is that confirmation bias? Can someone else re-read that segment?

Can you reword that? I don't get what you mean..

Papa Zito · Post Post #2241 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:22 am

I do need to read that section, thanks for pointing it out.

Boonskiies · Post Post #2242 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:23 am

seems like MOI was setting up a fake claim to me.

massive · Post Post #2243 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:33 am

In post 2242, Boonskiies wrote:seems like MOI was setting up a fake claim to me.

You think his "well there could be an X-Shot whatever" was setting up a fake claim for himself? Is there any other spot he does this?

massive · Post Post #2244 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:35 am

Because to me it all sort of flows together from Twoface's outbursts, which were the main focus there. It seems more about, on the whole, how badly Twoface handled the situation, and a general reaction to that.

massive · Post Post #2245 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:57 am

In post 1761, keyenpeydee wrote:
In post 1750, Human Sequencer wrote:
Votecount 2.6

momo
: keyenpeydee, Elena Fisher, MagnaofIllusion, Cooperative Sheep, Titus,

-Grey-

In post 1756, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1755, keyenpeydee wrote:I'm really really sure that momo will flip scum.
You're really really wrong.
Noted.

Still re-reading keyenpeydee and found this gem. How did this not get followed up the next day? More specifically, maybe, keyenpeydee, why did you abandon this and hop on Elena?

Papa Zito · Post Post #2246 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:12 am

In post 2239, massive wrote:I'm re-reading keyenpeydee and got to the point where Twoface outs the masons and the immediate reaction. This is just another example of Grey pushing a non-town agenda (following Boon catching the "scum slip" on 1042, begging MOI to walk him out of reasonable explanation of masons in 1048)

I'm not seeing anything scummy about his reaction. Following Boon on an apparent scumslip in 1042 is fine (also: why ding Grey for this and not Boon himself?). You skipped his 1047 for some reason - this post is a great followup in what he's seeing as a major contradiction at that point. He then asks Magna in 1048 to confirm his theory. Magna debunks in 1050, so Grey moves his vote in 1053. This all looks entirely reasonable to me.

massive · Post Post #2247 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:16 am

So who is scum, then, PZ? Me and who?

Papa Zito · Post Post #2248 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:18 am

Well my vote's on ZZZX, that's a clue.

-Grey- · Post Post #2249 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:44 am

In post 2228, massive wrote:
In post 2207, -Grey- wrote:
In post 2206, massive wrote:I need to reread both of these and will do so first thing in the morning. My gut instinct is keyenpeedee.
How do I make sense as scum with key?
Well I'm sure I can figure out some way, but I'm at least going to try and be objective. But this is WIFOM at best and you know asking it has no good answer.

I know no such thing.