Mini 1895: Shaziro Mafia - GAME OVER


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Post Post #1825 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:16 am

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In post 1821, TwoFace wrote:I don't need to provide reasons why I'm town that's not how the game works.
Sure, you don't need to provide reasons why you are town.
In post 1805, TwoFace wrote:Sure it would. Nobody with a brain could think I'm scum.
But you do need to back up your claims if you want them to be more than mere assertion.
Which is why I said, "Either provide some sound reasoning as to why you can't be scum,
or drop the whole obv town thing
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In post 1822, TwoFace wrote:Now who do you think is scum and why.
If my scumdar was going off, I would announce as much after obtaining a certain level of confidence in my scum read.
Right now everyone other than IAWS is in various state of null. Some slight leans either way for various reasons.
More activity from the less active players could be helpful.
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Post Post #1826 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:19 am

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VOTE: one

No way you've read this game more than once and everyone is null.
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Post Post #1827 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:21 am

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And I'm never going to drop the whole obv town thing cause I feel I am the most obv town. The only reason why iaws is higher than me is he got a good investigation. Other than that he'd be way down the list.
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Post Post #1828 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:21 am

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In post 1824, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1723, WhemeStar wrote:Titus probably town, I thought horror was.
In post 1823, WhemeStar wrote:K guys let's wait for replacements, confident that Titus is a scum slot though
explain please
After rereading his ISO I feel like he was scum cruising along and putting his vote on easy wagons. Said he didn't like the CD wagon, then put him at L-1
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Post Post #1829 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:22 am

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And the post where he voted CD seemed like he knew for a fact it was a mislynch
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Post Post #1830 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:31 am

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In post 1827, TwoFace wrote:And I'm never going to drop the whole obv town thing cause I feel I am the most obv town. The only reason why iaws is higher than me is he got a good investigation. Other than that he'd be way down the list.
Refusing to either drop the claim or provide evidence for the claim does not seem very productive.
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Post Post #1831 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:34 am

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In post 1826, TwoFace wrote:VOTE: one

No way you've read this game more than once and everyone is null.
I'm not going to make up a case on someone when I don't have one just because you think I should.
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Post Post #1832 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:35 am

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continuing this conversation isn't productive. If you were town you would be better off trying to find scum, clearly you have no interest in doing that which just reaffirms my vote in in the right spot
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Post Post #1833 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:38 am

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In post 1831, Oneironaut wrote:I'm not going to make up a case on someone when I don't have one just because you think I should.
again thanks for confirming you are scum.

only scum have to "make up cases". If you were town who read this game more than once, you would already have found reasons to find people suspicious and the reasons would be genuine. you just admitted you can't do that.


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Post Post #1834 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:48 am

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In post 1833, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1831, Oneironaut wrote:I'm not going to make up a case on someone when I don't have one just because you think I should.
again thanks for confirming you are scum.

only scum have to "make up cases". If you were town who read this game more than once, you would already have found reasons to find people suspicious and the reasons would be genuine. you just admitted you can't do that.


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Quit reaching. Please read my posts again. I don't fabricate cases and I don't understand how you could somehow twist my refusal to fabricate a case into an admission of doing what I just refused to do. I also never said I don't have suspicions. If anyone is "making up a case" here, it is you.
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Post Post #1835 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:52 am

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so you confirm you are scum. good to know
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Post Post #1836 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:57 am

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btw i never asked you to fabricate anything. I asked you to do a very simple thing. Something that any townie should be able to do on day 4.
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Post Post #1837 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:07 am

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In post 1835, TwoFace wrote:so you confirm you are scum. good to know
Citation please. You reachy twisty misrepping lamist.
In post 1836, TwoFace wrote:btw i never asked you to fabricate anything. I asked you to do a very simple thing. Something that any townie should be able to do on day 4.
You asked me who I think is scum and why, and I answered. You then voted me because I lacked a strong enough scum read to be worth mentioning, so I refused to fabricate a case on someone just because you were not pleased with my answer.
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Post Post #1838 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:18 am

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In post 1837, Oneironaut wrote:You asked me who I think is scum and why, and I answered
your answer was not an acceptable answer to me. Your answer just reaffirmed what I was already saying. You aren't scum hunting and you show no interest in doing it. Those aren't traits from town. Those are traits from scum.
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Post Post #1839 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:19 am

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my vote isn't changing so go peddle your nonsense to somebody else
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Post Post #1840 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:20 am

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I am also a man of my word. I said that today I was going to make sure you got lynched and that is what I plan to do. Tomorrow we lynch titus
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Post Post #1841 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:30 am

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In post 1838, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1837, Oneironaut wrote:You asked me who I think is scum and why, and I answered
your answer was not an acceptable answer to me. Your answer just reaffirmed what I was already saying. You aren't scum hunting and you show no interest in doing it. Those aren't traits from town. Those are traits from scum.
Just because i lacked a scum read when you asked for it doesn't mean I haven't been scumhunting. Other than the inactives, I have been probing my nulls in an attempt to improve my reads.

More misrep. Feel free to continue being a scumfuck. Or you could take a break, maybe catch a nap and sober up, then return and take the time to actually read my posts, since it is glaringly obvious that you either havn't been paying attention, or that you are intentionally attempting to make something from nothing.
In post 1840, TwoFace wrote:I am also a man of my word. I said that today I was going to make sure you got lynched and that is what I plan to do. Tomorrow we lynch titus
Lulz. Good luck.
In post 1785, Oneironaut wrote:It would be unwise for scum to avoid NKing me, unless they think they can get me lynched.
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Post Post #1842 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:34 am

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Now is the time to lynch me scumface, if you think you can.
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Post Post #1843 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:35 am

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my name is twoface please don't make that mistake again and I will be trying to lynch you.
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Post Post #1844 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:43 am

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as i said in 1821, your 1785 doesn't scare me.
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Post Post #1845 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:46 am

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In post 1844, TwoFace wrote:as i said in 1821, your 1785 doesn't scare me.
Sounds like something scum would say.
I don't see why town would say such a thing.
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Post Post #1846 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:54 am

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Because town doesn't believe a claim or a soft claim at face value. They look at body of work and nothing in your body of work makes me think you are a town pr. It doesn't even make me think you are town. Like i gave you an opportunity to convince me and you doubled down on acting like scum.
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Post Post #1847 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:57 am

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like I could easily find 50 games on this site where a town pr claimed their role and was still lynched because people didn't believe them so why do you think you are any fucking different?

now you may be able to scare off others and even somehow convince them you are telling the truth but you have no credibility with me anymore. When I give you a chance to convince me you are town and you double down and continue to act like scum, you lost me forever.
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Post Post #1848 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:00 am

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In post 1846, TwoFace wrote:Because town doesn't believe a claim or a soft claim at face value. They look at body of work and nothing in your body of work makes me think you are a town pr. It doesn't even make me think you are town. Like i gave you an opportunity to convince me and you doubled down on acting like scum.
Not believing a softclaim is very different from not being scared of a soft claim.

How did I act like scum? By being honest about not having a strong scumread on someone?
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Post Post #1849 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:11 am

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how have you acted like scum

1. I don't think you have really scum hunted the entire game
2. wasting time talking about useless things and asking pointless questions that don't help progress the game
3. not being able to provide a list of scum reads and reasons for those and when you explain why you can't you say it's because you don't want to fabricate anything.
4. scaring people into backing off of you by some vague hint that you could possibly be a pr instead of doing what you should be doing if you were town
5. faslely accusing me of things that aren't true

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