Mini 1895: Shaziro Mafia - GAME OVER

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh wait. They can even without being the last one alive.
But my argument still stands though. Scum-titus can't kill the cop without being ded the very next day

[MathBlade]

implosion
Kop
WhemeStar
Oneironaut
MathBlade

so at least one scum here

if my slot is universal townread why is this dude voting my slot?

Because all those slots are lurkers and weren't counting towards my assessment and is widely scumread.

[MathBlade]

Oh wait. They can even without being the last one alive.
But my argument still stands though. Scum-titus can't kill the cop without being ded the very next day

Good point.

[Oneironaut]

UNVOTE:

[WhemeStar]

I'm busy will read tomorrow

[Titus]

Oh wait. They can even without being the last one alive.
But my argument still stands though. Scum-titus can't kill the cop without being ded the very next day

I wish this implication was true, but it isn't unless someone has an inside track to the mafia rb.

[GuyInFreezer]

So who's scum

[Titus]

One, Whemestar, kop almost certainly

[Titus]

Oh wait. They can even without being the last one alive.
But my argument still stands though. Scum-titus can't kill the cop without being ded the very next day

Good point.

Why did you agree with this?

[MathBlade]

Because I find it more likely the cop checked an ascetic than was roleblocked. Makes a hell of a lot more sense than block and kill cop.

[Titus]

Because I find it more likely the cop checked an ascetic than was roleblocked. Makes a hell of a lot more sense than block and kill cop.

Why?

[MathBlade]

As scum you spin a story. You get people to believe it. I have to go to Shadowrun but if the cop dies tonight I agree with Guy's statement. I think you are inventing an RB here.

[Titus]

As scum you spin a story. You get people to believe it. I have to go to Shadowrun but if the cop dies tonight I agree with Guy's statement. I think you are inventing an RB here.

O.o, really inventing an rb? So that means whoever Guy checked is an unclaimed ascetic. That's a near automatic scum result, so why aren't you sheeping iaws? Then by flipping the scum ascetic in that pov, you'd have absolute proof.

If the slot iaws is not ascetic, absolute proof of a roleblocker exists.

Occam's razor says that there just is an rb with a cop/doctor and no cc for my doc claim, but you're filtering things through a Titus is scum perspective.

I am going to laugh out loud if IAWS checked you.

[Titus]

*Guy checked = iaws

[MathBlade]

Occam's razor says you said shit and are making stuff up.

I suspect an ascetic because if you read the thread you would realize that we are dealing with a lot of newbies. Having newbies held to the same "claim ascetic D1" on site without knowing it is crazy. Hell IAWS said he didn't know he needed to out his guilty.

[MathBlade]

I am not ascetic and I should be held to that standard. However newbies should not be.

[implosion]

Mathblade, if there's an ascetic and no RB then it has to be either TF/GiF or wheme-scum:

Wheme. Who did you give fruit to and why wasn't it me?

Tf I gave fruit to you

I don't know why you see the kill+block scenario as unlikely. I'm pretty confident it's a thing I've seen before and both me and IAWS have discussed it as a perfectly likely explanation.

[Titus]

@Math, they know now.

So if everyone fails to claim ascetic or IAWS check claims not ascetic, we can eliminate town!ascetic possibility no?

If that's the case, then either iaws check target is scum or there is a roleblocker.

[implosion]

this actually makes me inclined to write kop off as town. This seems like a really unlikely tact for scum to take.

But i *REALLY* wish kop would be more active and hold some dialogue, and talk about his reads on players other than twoface today.

[implosion]

i also just don't think the team is kop/oneironaut. I don't have a great reason for that.

i think it might be math/oneironaut. That's my best guess at this juncture i think. Pretty low confidence though. Still strongly prefer oneironaut first unless his claim is something pretty damn exciting.

Still think we should just massclaim given that we have 4 people (wheme/onei/iaws/titus) claiming/openly softclaiming to be PRs, plus fitz and GiF's neighbor statuses...

[implosion]

like, mathblade's "let's just lynch titus" plan to just lynch titus instead of massclaiming kind of falls apart when you realize that the town as a whole isn't convinced that titus is mafia...

[implosion]

IAlwaysWinSometimes: neighbor cop
WhemeStar: fruit vendor
Titus: doctor
GuyInFreezer: neighbor

leaving:
Oneironaut: some softclaim
MathBlade
implosion
Kop

i genuinely do not think scum get almost anything out of us massclaiming here, unless the scumteam is literally titus+oneironaut and if that is the scumteam then a massclaim is fantastic for us because there will be so much power claimed and we'll be able to start PoEing in the PR claims

if the scumteam is not titus+oneironaut then either titus is doc and scum already know all they really need to for their night actions tonight, or oneironaut some PR and scum pretty much know what to do tonight

it's also possible oneironaut is trying to gambit with the softclaim which is SO FUCKING BAD if oneironaut is town and needs to be brought to light and eliminated as a possibility NOW rather than later in case he is town

pretty please. pretty pretty please can we massclaim.

[Titus]

i also just don't think the team is kop/oneironaut. I don't have a great reason for that.

i think it might be math/oneironaut. That's my best guess at this juncture i think. Pretty low confidence though. Still strongly prefer oneironaut first unless his claim is something pretty damn exciting.

Still think we should just massclaim given that we have 4 people (wheme/onei/iaws/titus) claiming/openly softclaiming to be PRs, plus fitz and GiF's neighbor statuses...

I don't see math being toxicly stubborn as scum.

I am on board for mass claim.

[WhemeStar]

Like 13 pages behind oh dear

[IAlwaysWinSometimes]

If we're going to massclaim, should we choose the order of who claims?