Spring Fever (Endgame)

[RadiantCowbells]

im taking this pagetop even though I don't plan to make a vc here.

[Firebringer]

That page top belongs to Annie!!!

[Vecna]

Well lah-di-dah

[Aelita]

@Nebby Explain how their role can't be a scum role with town flavor and some town utility. Explain how they is towny other than their role things. Then I'll answer your question. It seems to me you are trying to townclear them based purely on their role, and I'm not gonna let that slide, not after SU2 happened.

[Vecna]

Can we get to lynching now?

wanted to see the vc but i'm going to vote for whoever has more votes between vecna and dunn

Im not really sure Im buying into the reasons here for why theyre continuing to scumread me. My concerns I had with some of their posts are valid. Them making a large wall to appear towny is something id be expecting of a scum Giga just as well, trying hard to look like theyre being inquisitive/thoughtfull. The fact they announced -THREE TIMES- that they were writing this wall post only strenghthens that feeling that they were doing it just for towncred.

The fact im also liking some of their reads on Transcend has nothing to do with the other fact, and the fact that im going back and forth over an opinion (and having some doubts as well) while rereading 65+ pages should really not be surprising.

Answer me this giga, why would you be worried about opinions changing? Plenty of stuff happened. Your early game was EXTREMELY scummy fmpov, and plenty other people felt the same way. The way you went to write long posts about everyone voting you after 20 pages was another cause for concern imo.

[Firebringer]

Vecna want to talk about me being scum?

[Vecna]

Because the utility in this role is being pretty much town-confirmed in a role madness setup Giga. The nightchat is a nice gimmick, but its not really earth-shattering. The good part of the role is that it could -never- be a scum power in role madness. Anyone with a grain of common sense that can setup spec should see this instantly. Scum need potent abilities to circumnavigate the minefield of town abilities, not -this- role that I have.

As the designer of

many

role madness games, all I have to say to this is: no.

Ok, point me to one of your games where you designed a scum-role such as mine.

Where 3 of the abilities/passives are dedicated to fit one theme, and their only purpose is to wifom town at the downside of having 2 negative utilities to your own team.

Lets see it then.

[Vecna]

Vecna want to talk about me being scum?

Sure, we can talk about it.

but i'd much prefer if you just show me that your not through actions. Shouldnt be that hard.

[Firebringer]

Vecna want to talk about me being scum?

Sure, we can talk about it.

but i'd much prefer if you just show me that your not through actions. Shouldnt be that hard.

Okay why is my shit posting make you think I am scum?
And do you think all I've done is shit post?
If no to that what do you think of my content posts?

[Vecna]

Why weren't you voting the slot?

Anti

was

voting the slot. He moved to Transcend in the subsequent conversation.

How do you feel about Vecna's recent posts?

I'm not impressed so far.

more super-ficial posts, meant to steer conversation/lynches in a certain direction without getting overly involved. How about you stop with the one-liners and explain stuff? Actually do stuff? You havent done -anything- all game.

Scumread increases.

[Vecna]

Vecna want to talk about me being scum?

Sure, we can talk about it.

but i'd much prefer if you just show me that your not through actions. Shouldnt be that hard.

Okay why is my shit posting make you think I am scum?
And do you think all I've done is shit post?
If no to that what do you think of my content posts?

I might just be biased since im not used to you shit posting.

Ive liked some of your rare content posts, and some of your reads were quite alright. You even had some decent pushes.

Not quite there yet where im satisfied with it, and I think all of it up to this point could be easily faked.

Just like with Titus, im getting the feeling with you its all just a guise. But I dont think youre scum together, so im wrong on either of you.

Im not interested in lynching either of you today since im sure you'll be usefull later on if you prove me im wrong - so you have plenty of time left to sway my mind.

[Firebringer]

I wasn't really worried about you lynching me today.....
What makes you think I am not group scum?

[Firebringer]

2410 really seems like you care how I perceive you....
Idk

[Vecna]

Unfortunately for him, Vecna is not going to be able to mislynch us this game.
His interpretations of Anti's posting are incredibly tone deaf.

My read was not based on tone, but on content. The fact this is your best defence, combined with the fact that you think im not gonna get a lynch through.....

At least youre the cat in the tree, which is a scenario im fine with. Im a dog with a long long bark.

[Vecna]

Seriously though, I have mentioned how important I deem tone. You don't need meta for tone; you can compare to shit in the same game. The issue is that even if I could figure out reliably which one of you is speaking without you signing, I can't say whether what I would consider inordane is so because you have talked about a post between yourselves or because it's one of you doing a thing I should pick up on.

PEdit: Gork read happened early and stayed. On reflection it might go up for reconsideration at some point. It was tone based iirc.

Ok, since I like to use tone as well for reads from time to time, im going to be asking you some questions since youre still on my watch-list.

Can you, in some detail, describe to me how Gork's tone made you townread him early in the game. How does his current change in tone affect that read?

Also, how can you tone-read someone -without- meta? Can you explain that to me?

[Transcend]

ayyyyyyyoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


ENGAGE ME

[Firebringer]

ayyyyyyyoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


ENGAGE ME

Hey Baby want to hook up?

[Vecna]

I think I'd like to lynch one of: heartless, eddiebyte, Titus

Oh boy, I

do

want to go double active now.

Now this is true fillery-posturing.

Im calling you out on this. go double active then. Show us them teeth.

[Vecna]

Do I have anything else I need to respond to?

What'll it take to get you to vote scum? Like Vecna, Bella, or Dunn?

Ok this is starting to worry me now

[Vecna]

I'm too sure that Vecna is town to vote him. Talk me through Bella. I'm interested in this one.

And Dunn? Your thoughts there?

Why are you "interested" in Bella?

Titus talk me through the Dunn read there. I have a strange feeling about the slot as well, but ive only played 1 game with it.

To me so far it seems to be missing any "bite". Dunnstral in PYP was sharp as a knife. Maybe slightly less day1 (which im afriad might the case here as well) - but I can definately see why people are so onto this slot.

As for the topic of bella, She's the biggest blank of anyone in this game.

Random throw-out comment regarding RandoMidget - it wasnt good, i got some scumpings there, and I feel im usually quite quick and effective at town-marking him based on his reads. We usually mesh really well, im not sure thats happening here quite yet and its worrying me.

[Transcend]

ayyyyyyyoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


ENGAGE ME

Hey Baby want to hook up?

i dont d8 ppl who vote me >:(

[Vecna]

Vecna's push on Firebringer because he's shitposting fucking reeks.

JJ is probably town.

I'm on page 80 and haven't read like... 40 to 60. Or something.

~Akarin

Why does it reek Menno? Tell me.

Do you want me to put you back into the special zone?

[Vecna]

Yeah man, I'm such a buddier as scum. I buddy all the buddies.

Dunnstral could be scum here but w/e.

~TD

you actually -do- do that.

Youre very happy-go-along as scum. Untill people start paying attention to you. Then the *woofs-woofs* start coming.

Change back to that dog avatar allready.....god.

[Vecna]

VOTE: Vecna

Really now, Frogger?

What gives, wheres your reasoning for this?

What happened to the opinionated frogger from civ? Im feeling cheated, you need to do stuff noteworthy so you can eat that NK again.

[Vecna]

Lynch dunnstral in next 8 pages or I will do something

((if it's replace out could we still lynch vecna))

Youre not gonna get me lynched, and the fact youre even trying to is worrying.

you should know better. A lot better.