DoY I: British Monarchy Mafia (Mini 1896) - Game Over :O


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Post Post #2825 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:12 am

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In post 2824, drealmerz7 wrote:as in, as I already posed: would you find empking's claim more believable then? especially if you assume infinity's claim to be true?
No. The WIFOM-poisoned well problem still stands.

It's all tainted by the fact that a One-Shot Cop has absolutely no reason to withhold their result. That Empking did calls everything about his motives into question.
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Post Post #2826 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:15 am

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so you didn't buy his explanation at all?

you do realize that sorting WIFOM is the crux of good mafia, ya?
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Post Post #2827 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:37 am

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In post 2826, drealmerz7 wrote:so you didn't buy his explanation at all?

you do realize that sorting WIFOM is the crux of good mafia, ya?
He didn't explain it at all. He basically said "I'd rather not have claimed at all. Also I've played Mafia a long time so my meta is a dislike of unprompted claims."

If you've been paying attention, you'll remember I
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sorted this WIFOM - Empking is scum. But the WIFOM dooms him to die no matter what - we can't trust a single word he says anymore, and so he is a liability in a LyLo situation.

It's not merely that he withheld his claim to use it at the most strategic moment. He didn't even claim his result when Titus started receiving heavy scrutiny, he waited literally until the last possible moment to throw it out there. What if he was late? What if one of the fence-sitters had decided they were impatient and just hammered away hours or minutes before Empking could speak up? In such a scenario where Empking is telling the truth and Titus isn't a Godfather, he would have willfully allowed us to lynch a confirmed Townie while he held that card against his chest - even worse, he would have wasted his only shot simply because he didn't want to claim.

And to add to that, Empking has made little to no attempt to actively scumhunt or solve the game today. If he has insider knowledge on another player and was withholding his claim strategically, why hasn't he been pushing against people who are scumreading Titus or trying to PoE more scum? Even now he remains extraordinarily passive despite having allegedly laid all his cards on the table.

Like, it's WIFOM-y for y'all's perspective to shill myself, but contrast Empking's claim with my claim. Once I claimed and revealed my insider knowledge of the N1 goings-on, I threw myself into the discussion and started to try and PoE the scum based on those happenings. And even though you guys don't know for certain whether or not I'm truthful town here, I do - and I'm certainly taking our contrasting responses to claiming and claimed insider knowledge into account when I'm sorting Empking.

I'm literally repeating myself now. I don't know what about this is so hard for you to understand.
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Post Post #2828 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:39 am

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Seriously the more I have to explain this and transcribe from my brain to the page the more I am convincing myself to just lynch Empking today.
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Post Post #2829 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:57 am

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VOTE: Titus

My fingers slipped.
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Post Post #2830 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:59 am

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you do understand that I'm doing what I think is healthy mafia in getting you to express those thoughts more and helps us sort things as we move forward, ya? you were cursory in your explanation before and I wanted you to take some things in to consideration and further scrutinize, especially after your generalized comment that I didn't feel applied to this game

thank you for partaking, I think it could definitely prove useful in further evaluations
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Post Post #2831 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:12 am

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There it goes

Titus scum confirmed

Empking dies tomorrow

Prism has no right to be mad about this either, he hasn't posted in-thread in
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Post Post #2832 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:18 am

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doubt prism would be mad, they're likely aware of the potentiality

luckily we can talk in our PT and I can get whatever notes from them and they from me to be shared on the next Day if either of us dies

but I hope wraith dies
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Post Post #2833 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:36 am

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Empking should be the lynch barring Godmother from Titus as if Empking is faking that is horrible.

Townies fake claim though so people have to be careful.

Wraith remember what I said about who to guard.
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Post Post #2834 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:38 am

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do not guard shep
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Post Post #2835 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:36 am

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In post 2825, Wraith wrote:
In post 2824, drealmerz7 wrote:as in, as I already posed: would you find empking's claim more believable then? especially if you assume infinity's claim to be true?
No. The WIFOM-poisoned well problem still stands.

It's all tainted by the fact that a One-Shot Cop has absolutely no reason to withhold their result. That Empking did calls everything about his motives into question.
I would rather have acted like I did than like you did, to be quite blunt.

Drealmerz: I'm going to be really frustrated if Titus is a GF, but it is looking that way with her trying to shut down discussion.
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Post Post #2836 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:41 am

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what did I do that you didn't like?
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Post Post #2837 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:45 am

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oh you mean wraith, mybad
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Post Post #2838 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:28 am

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Whooooooo!
I see a lynch!

Enjoy the next hour or two of twilight while I finish my work day :)
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Post Post #2839 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:16 am

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Not mad at all, was very confident Titus was/is scum.

Just wanted time to read CS/T&B, which I haven't had the past two days. I will now that night has shifted the extra two days back.
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Post Post #2840 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:55 am

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What's your read on shaddow?
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Post Post #2841 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:29 am

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VC 2.LYNCH!!!
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(6): Commander Shepard , Almost Chara , Shaddowez , Infinity 324 , Wraith , Titus --
LYNCH!!!

Tea and Biscuits
(3): Prism , Empking , drealmerz7
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Not Voting
(0): Nobody!

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Post Post #2842 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:34 am

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cept you didn't lock the thread, eh! :þ

not that I care, but sure would love to see the flip!
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Post Post #2843 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:35 am

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oh you JUST did it, damn hour difference on the timestamps from me
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Post Post #2844 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:39 am

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Well, it looks like Titus couldn't stand the likes of you any longer! It's hard you know!
Ah well, let's see how she flips!


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Post Post #2845 (ISO) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:38 am

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Does anyone ever die of dysentery anymore? No?
What about scurvy? Oh, that's taken care of too?
Damn!

Well, Wraith died, let's say from Tuberculosis, yeah?


Spoiler: Who was Wraith??
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Post Post #2846 (ISO) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:38 am

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VC 3.0
Not Voting
(8): Tea and Biscuits, drealmerz7, Infinity 324, Almost Chara, Empking, Commander Shepard, Shaddowez, Prism

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.


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Post Post #2847 (ISO) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:43 am

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wraith, you lying sack of...

ugh

hate town liars

fucking

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Post Post #2848 (ISO) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:49 am

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Would ari seriously put in a gf and a miller without a cop?

Idk man
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Post Post #2849 (ISO) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:50 am

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Godfather AND Miller for a 1-shot cop doesn't make much sense either
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