Open 680.1 C9++ | Endgame

[shannon]

VOTE: Alchemist

[Gamma Emerald]

Pardon? I don't really see how my actions can be construed that way.

[shannon]

OK, how do you construe them?

[shannon]

(I'm going for a little while, that big post made my head explode, but I"ll be back this evening x)

[Gamma Emerald]

What is the specific issue here?

[Gamma Emerald]

Well, at least I'm now actively engaged thanks to that wild suspicion thrown my way.

[Brian Skies]

Shannon, when you're done putting your head back together, let me know what you think of Rory.

[Brian Skies]

In 342, GC asks Titus again about her vote on me
GC asks follow ups in 357

Also, thanks for confirming that GC did, in fact, engage Titus on his suspicions.

[FireScreamer]

UNVOTE: CommKnight
It's too early to lynch and I think we've gotten what we can out of this wagon.

Gotten what we can? Are you claim collecting?

[FireScreamer]

I'm happy enough to ease off and sort elsewhere to use our time efficency but what I intend to "get" out of a Comm wagon is a lynch.

[Narna]

Guys I have to admit that, as someone not directly involved in all this back and forth, it's bloody hard to follow.

PS - Brian cute cloud for townie of the week

Shabaam

[Narna]

Trying to reread Narna, because I felt like he was chainsawing me when I started questioning CommKnight before but sort of dropped that line of inquiry after my back-and-forth with CommKnight himself. My biggest problem with him is I have no idea what he means by almost anything he's said, and don't really understand what he's thinking despite his being one of the most active players in terms of post count. For instance:

AND I'm locked in.

That is the scummiest shit I've seen. Like it's almost too scummy to be scum!

The only way he avoid the noose is if he's a mason and even that's iffy.

Why did you quote and bold this?

VOTE: Green Canyons

Titus vote and you'll flip town

pedit:.

What does this mean?

Lol, "cool kids." I'M COOL. So just follow me. The cool kids speak proper English. Not the lame "txt spk" kids do or the "1337 5p34k" either. Also that is a life tip for the younger ones playing. If you go to hit on a woman. Intelligence is much more valuable than that shit. (I mean, don't go rocket-sciency intelligence because the average high school girl will not give a rats ass about that and will look at you like you're weird. Even if you speak of Elon Musk. All the kids raving about environmentally friendly and all this liberal stuff. Yet don't even know who Elon Musk is or what he does. My coworkers don't care when I explain it out to them).

ANYWAY, back on topic.

My twon read, everyone!

This seems like a joke but at the same time the record indicates you actually are townreading CommKnight, why?

1) You're suspicious and I'm not chainsawing you
1.1) I don't quite remember, but I was saying something to the effect of he hasn't said anything remotely as scummy as he did in the first roll of this gamew.
2) I kida agreed with Brian a out GC, and tituse seemed to have experssed a similar opinion, but hadn't voted yet. I also wanted to swing a lynch in my reads favor.
3) That was mostly a joke and I do townread CK. He was the first to give a solid reads list and not a single one hof his posts pinged me even similarly to his last game.

[Narna]

So I was doing what IU can to form a read on low activity Titus (which I have only seen as town before) and garner votes.

[Umlaut]

UNVOTE: CommKnight
It's too early to lynch and I think we've gotten what we can out of this wagon.

Gotten what we can? Are you claim collecting?

Why does everyone think this is about the claim.

[shannon]

Shannon, when you're done putting your head back together, let me know what you think of Rory.

I don't know what to make of his alignment but his posts don't have a lot of substance.

Lots of one liners, 'I agree with this', 'Can I get more info', but no real positions taken, no really hard questions asked.

515 is interesting - looks like Comm has accused Rory of using his mod access to view the existence of a scum PT???

I definitely can't scum read Rory for what I see here so far, but there's no real reason to town read him either. Overall I'd say C+, lacks substance, could do better.

[shannon]

UNVOTE: CommKnight
It's too early to lynch and I think we've gotten what we can out of this wagon.

Gotten what we can? Are you claim collecting?

Why does everyone think this is about the claim.

What is it about, then?

[Narna]

Who the fuc claimed. I'm so lost ;_;

[CommKnight]

VOTE: Rory

You know. I'm going to grill you for this naked vote after what people made up for excuses to vote me.

- Case on Rory?
- What made you change?
- How confident are you he's scum?
- Looking for another claim today? Rolefisher!
- Not sure if bad play, or just terrible scum!

Come on guys, Brian must be scum, he hasn't even expanded upon this vote since then. His slot was scum last game, herp derp, all aboard the Brian wagon.

Jokevote: Brian Skies

No seriously, town got their head out of their collective asses enough to see GC is a bad choice. I honestly don't want him to claim but at the point I voted him it seemed there would have to be one from him so I wanted to get it done and over with rather than waiting around for some turtle to make up their mind they're going to put him to L1 and make him claim with less than 24 hours left.

So VOTE: FireScreamer <- It's a mistake not to put this one in the noose today.

@shannon, nah, I was just curious, maybe I should've made it clear that was non-game specific question or even taken it to pm. But I was wondering how it worked for the mods since they'd be able to modify the different topics and what not.

@Narna, I claimed VT. Claiming early is NAI (I'm not sure when people think L2 is early, we use to always claim L2, because no point in dragging it out and it prevents someone from making an excuse to cast the hammering vote).

[shannon]

In 342, GC asks Titus again about her vote on me
GC asks follow ups in 357

Also, thanks for confirming that GC did, in fact, engage Titus on his suspicions.

It seems the sort of thing that is easily verifiable by reading GC's ISO. And then once GC's follow up question is noticed, it should have been like 'OK you did follow up but Titus didn't answer - Why didn't Titus answer, and why didn't you keep pushing it?' Not the shit show we've had.

The most damning point for me is that the whole thing was a total non-issue until Gamma brought it up like 300 posts later. And if anything I'd have expected Titus to be lambasted for not answering the question (why she voted me with no explanation) rather than Alch for not following up enough. (It is bloody hard to follow up with Titus, especially when Titus is lurking for hundreds of posts at a time).

Seriously, I think there's scum here. I was being voted by GC and then Titus, and Alch chose to engage me about my reads but not Titus for not responding to GC. Then when it became clear I was not going to be wagoned, Gamma brought up GC and Titus again, and Alch went after GC.

I mean there were three naked votes on Alch in a row, and it was at that time - 300 odd posts after Titus first voted me - that Gamma chose to ask Alch why he hadn't followed up with Titus more.

Join me here on Alch or Gamma because I'm pretty sure this is where scum's at.

[Umlaut]

What is it about, then?

We've gotten his response to high pressure and an idea of who does and doesn't support the wagon and why, which is enough to build reads on, and leaving my vote parked there for the next week isn't useful.

[FireScreamer]

Comm explain to me why you actually suspect me. Other than treating someone who is tunneling me down as an antagonist.

[Narna]

CK's admitting to my accusation of being from tos fits with his "vote for claim" mentality. This is because I to do tows.

[FireScreamer]

Because all I can see is the numbers nonsense and I "feel off". You are stuck on reads you had on page 7. You are not trying for a second to actually sort anyone. You've just decided your reads before anyone did anything and they are now set in stone. These are blatantly antitown behaviors.

[Gamma Emerald]

Shannon are you going to actually try to discuss with me more or are we past that hill?

[FireScreamer]

And the people inexplicably townreading Comm for posting a page 7 readlist and finding no new information in over 20 pages need to reevaluate their position.