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[keyenpeydee]

VOTE COUNT

VOTE COUNT 4.01

[2] alban:

shos, rb,

[10] Not Voting:

zakk, alban, momo, Nero Cain, Ramcius, WhemeStar, Keyser Söze, Lil Uzi Vert, BTD6_maker, Creature,

MOD NOTES:

Day Four will end in May 10, 2017.

With

12

alive, it takes

7

to lynch. Day Three will end in

(expired on 2017-05-10 00:05:00)

.

[shos]

We have had 2 noghta woth 2 kills. I think any vigging that had taken place by factions and townies should be claimed, so that we can assess how many more scum we are dealing with. Could be 1, could be 1+1, could be 2.

Also keyser, in case you missed, Im conftown, dont waste time analyzing me.

I have reasons to believe neither zakk nor wheme nor nero cain are scum. These arent solid right now.

Actually they very well may be SKs if there is one. They arent groupscum though, I think

[momo]

I put scum Ari at L-1.

Scum Ircher was trying to push a mislynched on me.

I called scum Ircher out on pocketing.

I am TOWN.

[rb]

im basically ignoring everything ircher said after his guilty was outed

[rb]

and everyone else should too, there's enough content that we can re-read the game to find scum, not agonise over wifom

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I want to wait at least another night before speculating about an SK. There really shouldn't be one due to flavor.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Only 3 group scum just seems unlikely due to balance.

[rb]

i think it's 4/16. i said that in hood because bus driver, neap and 1-shot BP is pretty PR heavy scum team, and we've seen a few vanilla townie flips too so i think it's low number single-ball scumteam, with heavy PR to offset lack of players. 4/16.

[Ramcius]

We have had 2 noghta woth 2 kills. I think any vigging that had taken place by factions and townies should be claimed, so that we can assess how many more scum we are dealing with. Could be 1, could be 1+1, could be 2.

Also keyser, in case you missed, Im conftown, dont waste time analyzing me.

I have reasons to believe neither zakk nor wheme nor nero cain are scum. These arent solid right now.

Mewtaph was factional kill according to rb, so only kill from possible sk is Elena/RM, so i tend to believe we dealing with only mafia team

[Nero Cain]

VOTE: zakk

[rb]

Only 3 group scum just seems unlikely due to balance.

I want to wait at least another night before speculating about an SK. There really shouldn't be one due to flavor.

i agree because jeanine is so hot, everyone wanna be her or kill her

[WhemeStar]

Shos who did you check

[zakk]

Some thoughts right off the bat:

BTD6 and Creature are alone in their faction, while Erudite is still totally full. What could this mean?

I will say that vigging Mewtaph was a stupid idea. He seemed quite town to me, and there were many better targets. I think there is at least 1 scum in there.

Also, due to how Screenplay died, this also strongly points to there NOT being scum among Lil Uzi Vert, Keyser, and Ramcius.

shos is confirmed town. Sooooo, why wasn't he a kill target last night, ESPECIALLY after giving cop results on Ircher which led to a scum lynch? If you are a doctor, and you have let your faction know you were protecting shos, you may have scum in your faction because clearly they knew to avoid that kill last night.

alban being mostly silent in the PT and still not having "read up" on it, or commented much to me and shos about anything important, but then coming in here and saying "XYZ is scum", is very scummy. I wouldn't be sad at all to see him die today.

[zakk]

Oh also, creature joined Abnegation "because ircher asked him to"... he would hardly need to do that if they were scum buddies and could already talk. Unless this is total WIFOM territory, I'd (grudgingly) say he's probably town for it.

[zakk]

It's between Ramcius, wheme and rb for today's lynch.

No, no, and no.

we are not ending the day in a hurry.

Agreed.

today we should get reads on all the lurkers/hard to reads my faction came up with.

Agreed.

[zakk]

Should the (town) vig roleclaim now or later?

rb said that the vig was factional. Erudite.

[zakk]

I have been playing a balancing game of

'not-wanting-too-much-towncred'

and

'I-don't-want-to-be-lynched'

so your suspicion is rational.

As we are now down to the last two scum [1xMAFIA + 1xSERIAL KILLER (?)] I will now be increasing my activity.

Exact same for me.

[zakk]

Wait Keyser how do you know there's only one groupscum left?

[zakk]

I have reasons to believe neither zakk nor wheme nor nero cain are scum. These arent solid right now.

Actually they very well may be SKs if there is one. They arent groupscum though, I think

This is a good point. Alban has been playing very SK-like.

VOTE: alban L-4

[zakk]

and everyone else should too, there's enough content that we can re-read the game to find scum, not agonise over wifom

This. Somebody do a votecount analysis, or I can later

[Keyser Söze]

Also, due to how Screenplay died, this also strongly points to there NOT being scum among Lil Uzi Vert, Keyser, and Ramcius

Yes, Ramcius and LUV would be two of the last players I would lynch if we were hunting "mafia" scum. I felt our faction was "mafia"-free after N1/D2's events [obviously they are not town cleared though].

Oh also, creature joined Abnegation "because ircher asked him to"... he would hardly need to do that if they were scum buddies and could already talk. Unless this is total WIFOM territory, I'd (grudgingly) say he's probably town for it.

That's how I unfortunately read it too in my catch-up.

Should the (town) vig roleclaim now or later?

rb said that the vig was factional. Erudite.

So we're only dealing with 1 or 2 more groupscum now? (before I start writing off people off being scum for association/VCA reasons.)

Do we have any night-kills unaccounted for?

[Ramcius]

Should the (town) vig roleclaim now or later?

rb said that the vig was factional. Erudite.

we still have 2nd kill from N2, so it's very likely vig, mafia having BP inclines in vig too, if we consider that serums ignore role abilities as confirmed by mod

[Keyser Söze]

Wait Keyser how do you know there's only one groupscum left?

Based on a balanced set-up there shouldn't be more than 5 scum.

3 flipped mafia.
2 night-kills per night.
1 group scum faction left (presumably mafia)

The other kill can't be mafia (one factional NK PLUS a night-vig is too OP).

Thus, either 3rd party/SK (if no vig owns up to the two town NK's)

[Creature]

I haven't used my faction serum.

[Creature]

Guess there isn't an SK at all, right?

Plus, mafia got plenty of power, so powerful four-man mafia vs not-so-powerful sixteen townies is pretty balanced.