Mini 1904: Rad Idea Mafia! (Endgame!)

[Radical Rat]

It's not unsettling. It's a personality thing just like the opening discards.

Yeah, a personality thing that leads to D1 hardclaims and thinking "Hooker" is an alignment.

You wouldn't play Chess without knowing how to move the pieces, so why play Mafia without even knowing what the pieces are in the first place?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

It's not unsettling. It's a personality thing just like the opening discards.

Yeah, a personality thing that leads to D1 hardclaims and thinking "Hooker" is an alignment.

You wouldn't play Chess without knowing how to move the pieces, so why play Mafia without even knowing what the pieces are in the first place?

Some people are tactile learners and there is nothing wrong with that. If you felt you legitimately caught a slip, you should be excited, instead of taking this as an opportunity to insult people which is not cool.

[Radical Rat]

My intention is not to insult people, only to make sure that people know what they're playing.

I'm fine if questions pop up and things need clarified, but people should at least look at the setup first.

I do apologize if I'm sounding harsh though. I don't mean any of this as a personal attack, only that I really don't want people not reading to be reason we lose.

[SlySly]

uhh sly, i dont get it. you have to make clear what your alignment and what your role is. so how did you think hooker was an alignment in any way or form?

I've explained all of this very clearly. I'm not doing it again. Scroll up and read again.

I do however believe that Sly had a Mafia role... so sly, did you use it on your alignment or your power?

I discarded the only non-Town card I had.

and thinking "Hooker" is an alignment.

Coney Island is Theme Park jr. All kinds of unexpected shit happens here.

My intention is not to insult people, only to make sure that people know what they're playing.

I know what we are playing. I don't have every role in history memorized. Had it said RB, I'd have known what it was talking about. Here's how my cards were dealt.

Werewolf Hooker
Town card
Town card

I thought I had to pick alignment from Werewolf or Hooker and apply it to one of the roles of the other 2 cards. This isn't brain surgery.

[gerryoat]

The fact I can't see Sly has played this setup or 1 like it before (skimmed played games) I believe the confusion claim. My first game it took a few explanations from the mod for me to understand.
I do however believe that Sly had a Mafia role... so sly, did you use it on your alignment or your power?

i've never played this before, and its not that hard to understand role and alignment

[Radical Rat]

It does say RBer on the setup page. Which is my point.

I get you made a mistake, just. Read the setup now so you don't make similar errors when it actually matters is all I'm saying.

[SlySly]

The fact I can't see Sly has played this setup or 1 like it before (skimmed played games) I believe the confusion claim. My first game it took a few explanations from the mod for me to understand.
I do however believe that Sly had a Mafia role... so sly, did you use it on your alignment or your power?

i've never played this before, and its not that hard to understand role and alignment

So you perceive things differently than I do. You have established this very well. Do you find me scummy for my perceptions or do you just like reinforcing your superiority over me?

[SlySly]

It does say RBer on the setup page. Which is my point.

Are you talking about this page?

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... did=125666

If yes, I first saw this page when post 24 was made.

[Radical Rat]

Then you aren't included in "If you haven't read the setup yet"

[Ircher]

It does say RBer on the setup page. Which is my point.

I get you made a mistake, just. Read the setup now so you don't make similar errors when it actually matters is all I'm saying.

You honestly expect us to memorize 100+ roles? No way!

[Radical Rat]

Not memorize, no. But at least read through it once so you have some idea.

Personally, I have it open next tab for easy reference whenever a claim comes up, but I know not everyone's going to do that. I do expect familiarity with your own role, and at least a basic comprehension of the overall setup however.

[TiphaineDeath]

Huh, did not know that acronym, might be cause it’s stupid.

62 is terrible, it’s shade-cast sans vote, it’s soft-push, combined with 61 attempts to make wagon to join later without doing the making. It’s town bait, I like it not.

105 is bad even if he didn’t forget someone. It reads like the kind of thing I would post when I am looking for a reason to go in to a tunnel on a townie and have town forget about me.

Radical seems townie, band I also did not read the setup, mostly ‘cause I am lazy.

[McMenno]

I chose ascetic neighbor over 2shot bulletproof? well fuck my life.

ircher pulling a shitty-ass gambit and his claim is scummy as fuck. but also it's ircher and he legit thinks he might be helping the town by pulling this shit. but also his claim is shit. idk.

[Radical Rat]

I chose ascetic neighbor over 2shot bulletproof? well fuck my life.

ircher pulling a shitty-ass gambit and his claim is scummy as fuck. but also it's ircher and he legit thinks he might be helping the town by pulling this shit. but also his claim is shit. idk.

This is why I was asking about Mason.

So, have you guys been discussing anything worthwhile yet?

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

McMenno isn't a mason?

[Radical Rat]

McMenno isn't a mason?

McMenno is a mason. But masons aren't alignment confirmed in this game, so it's basically just a normal hood.

[Radical Rat]

There are only two ascetic roles.
Town Ascetic, which was discarded, and Mafia Ascetic Mason.

Mason isn't a "Murder the entire Town" role, so I kept quiet but asked the mod to know if he was conftown.

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

Oh yeah. Late night.

[IAlwaysWinSometimes]

@Mod replace me out please, I'm sorry but I don't have time for this game.

[Necta]

I just found time for a quick readtrough and I am a little lost with all those roles and everything.
I don´t know all your experiences on site but to be honest I didn´t go trough all the roles before I got my cards and I just went with what I understood while picking. I say this because there is talk about not getting the head in the game (meaning knowing about all the roles and if they are good/bad roles to have) even before it started and from my point of view I can see others going in halfblind as myself. I can see why it irritates people that prepared more for the setup. Sorry I guess.

[Radical Rat]

I'm not so much irritated as I am just worried. The less people know about the setup, the easier it is for scum to fake things without being caught.

I'm doing my best of course, but I can't keep track of everything on my own, and I can die at any moment. The more Townies who familiarize themselves with the setup the fewer options scum have to lie.

[Ircher]

I chose ascetic neighbor over 2shot bulletproof? well fuck my life.

ircher pulling a shitty-ass gambit and his claim is scummy as fuck. but also it's ircher and he legit thinks he might be helping the town by pulling this shit. but also his claim is shit. idk.

Not sure what you mean by gambit.

[SlySly]

The more Townies who familiarize themselves with the setup the fewer options scum have

If at least one player selected a permanently anti-town faction alignment (Mafia, Werewolves, Cult, Aliens, or Replicants), AND a majority of the players have chosen the Town faction, the game setup will be considered valid. No temporary alignments will be counted in either faction count.

So, at least 1 person chose to be scum. 5 people threw away an opportunity to be scum. McMenno admitted he kept a scum card, keeping an opportunity to be scum. What are the odds that we only have 1 player that chose to be scum?

Mini 1904 has officially begun! The following is the list of discards.

McMenno = Two-shot Bulletproof Survivor
Rautherdir = Town Ascetic
1 Shot Vanilla Town = Town Private Investigator
Radical Rat = Alien Prober
SnarkySnowman = Town Gravedigger
TiphaineDeath = Town Innocent Child
IAlwaysWinSometimes = Alien Doppelganger
Ircher = Town One-shot Commuter
Chickadee = Werewolf
Lil Uzi Vert = Town Miller
Necta = Replicant Bloodsucker
gerryoat = Watchlisted Townie
SlySly = Werewolf Hooker

What if McMenno is just playing like he used the Ascetic, because he knew there was an out with that card specifically, but really used the alignment of that card and combined it with something better than Two-shot BP?

[JerryArr]

@Mod replace me out please, I'm sorry but I don't have time for this game.

Got it, IAlwaysWinSometimes will be replaced.

[JerryArr]

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