DoY I: British Monarchy Mafia (Mini 1896) - Game Over :O

[Aristophanes]

Mod: I voted in 2965

And here I thought I was doing pretty well!

Fixed it.

[Aristophanes]

VC 3.2

Shaddowez

(2): Tea and Biscuits 3002, Infinity 324 3004

Infinity

(2): Prism 2865, Empking 2965

Commander Shepard

(1): Almost Chara 3001

Not Voting

(3): drealmerz7, Shaddowez, Commander Shepard 2947

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Day three ends Friday, May 5th at 6:30pm EST, or in (expired on 2017-05-05 18:30:00)

Mod Notes:
Don't forget that days are shorter from this point on!

Quoting this since I page topped!

[Almost Chara]

I'm very confident you're town. I'm almost as confident Drealm is town, if that tells you anything.

you're more confident in Shepard town than dreal town? or did you mean to say the opposite here?

Almost and i aren't on the same wavelength right now. but we both agree with Empking scum and Infinity town.
we should be able to discuss when i actually have internet access.

in what way did Titus set up Empking? Empking cites TWC as his reason for targeting Titus.

shaddowez's case-post on Titus when her lynch looked pretty locked is something i've done as town too. i'd like to see more than that for why he's scum.
~Chara

[Infinity 324]

Chara, what did you think of my reasoning for T&B town?

[shaddowez]

Shepard, can we talk about what happens when me or T&B flip town?

We lynch the other of you.

I am confTown.
Masons are conf.
Empking is town because Titus set Empking up.

This game is literally unlosable

Scum have to be in T&B Infinity and Shaddowez and AC.

Based on AC's response scum are T&B and Infinity.

CS - are you basing the A50/T&B team on associatives? Because if that's the case, wouldn't you want to look at me and Infinity as a possible team if either A50 or T&B flip town?

[shaddowez]

Empking is town because Titus set Empking up.

Talk to me about this.

You're not discussing here you're just pushing reads. Take a step back, cooperation is the only way we can win.

Something about this post has me on edge. Fruit vendor isn't

definitely

a town role, yet Infinity is talking to CS like he know's he's town while calling him out for something that's much more likely to come from scum (pushing reads without discussing them)

[shaddowez]

I townread T&B because postie is playing to her town meta. She is much more aggressive as town and she constantly doubts and re-evaluates herself, which is something I can relate to. Wrestling with paranoia is something I have not seen scum!postie come close to fake, even though she is good as scum in other ways.

I thought I had other things but let's start with this. I also thought 2681 looked a lot like a buddy attempt.

Spoiler:

If scum do something like shoot me instead to avoid the problem

Then they'd just have the same problem the next night. Either Wraith dies or one of the masons dies.
Bleh. I guess we're lynching Titus then.
If Prism is actually a mason here then god knows why their posts are pinging my scumdar so hard all the time.

-- Postie

I'm going to be really annoyed if this is town!dreal and scum!Prism fakeclaiming masons as neighbours but I'm probably overthinking.

-- Postie

Everything that's happened points towards town!Prism and I know logically they should be town but my gut still says they're scum I don't understand this game

-- Postie

Bleh. I'm gonna go meta Prism and hopefully that'll make me feel better.

-- Postie

Bleh. I'm gonna go meta Prism and hopefully that'll make me feel better.

-- Postie

Wow that didn't make me feel better at all. I'm just... I'm just gonna put this out of my mind until we get or don't get a mason flip because there's really nothing I can do right now with this.

-- Postie

Elaborate.

In the game I looked at you seemed to making an effort to seek out engagement much more, and taking stances in a different way where you like put out several options and evaluated them idk. Here it just feels like you're talking

at

the thread rather than to it.

-- Postie

I've just realised I actually scumread masons quite often, and it's usually for something along the lines of them being lazy with their reasoning and stances and not feeling like they're really trying to engage properly or fully play the game. That

does

make me feel somewhat better about Prism being town here. It's also now making me slowly despise masons as a role.

-- Postie

I said that before postie posted this, but it's a good example of what I'm talking about. Town is likely to go through a difficult process like this when a top scumread of theirs claims mason. Scum would probably either try to push them, or more likely just accept the masons as conftown. It just seems really hard to fake and at the very least it would take a lot of effort for not much reward if she was scum.

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but you're basically saying that almost nothing content-wise in this game has you townreading them, it's mainly meta?

[shaddowez]

AC - what's up?

Almost

- you had said something earlier about wanting to talk to me. Did you still have something?

[Infinity 324]

Empking is town because Titus set Empking up.

Talk to me about this.

You're not discussing here you're just pushing reads. Take a step back, cooperation is the only way we can win.

Something about this post has me on edge. Fruit vendor isn't

definitely

a town role, yet Infinity is talking to CS like he know's he's town while calling him out for something that's much more likely to come from scum (pushing reads without discussing them)

I disagree that it's much more likely to come from scum, especially because of the player I think shepard is. Also shepard's play just feels very town to me.

[Infinity 324]

I townread T&B because postie is playing to her town meta. She is much more aggressive as town and she constantly doubts and re-evaluates herself, which is something I can relate to. Wrestling with paranoia is something I have not seen scum!postie come close to fake, even though she is good as scum in other ways.

I thought I had other things but let's start with this. I also thought 2681 looked a lot like a buddy attempt.

Spoiler:

If scum do something like shoot me instead to avoid the problem

Then they'd just have the same problem the next night. Either Wraith dies or one of the masons dies.
Bleh. I guess we're lynching Titus then.
If Prism is actually a mason here then god knows why their posts are pinging my scumdar so hard all the time.

-- Postie

I'm going to be really annoyed if this is town!dreal and scum!Prism fakeclaiming masons as neighbours but I'm probably overthinking.

-- Postie

Everything that's happened points towards town!Prism and I know logically they should be town but my gut still says they're scum I don't understand this game

-- Postie

Bleh. I'm gonna go meta Prism and hopefully that'll make me feel better.

-- Postie

Bleh. I'm gonna go meta Prism and hopefully that'll make me feel better.

-- Postie

Wow that didn't make me feel better at all. I'm just... I'm just gonna put this out of my mind until we get or don't get a mason flip because there's really nothing I can do right now with this.

-- Postie

Elaborate.

In the game I looked at you seemed to making an effort to seek out engagement much more, and taking stances in a different way where you like put out several options and evaluated them idk. Here it just feels like you're talking

at

the thread rather than to it.

-- Postie

I've just realised I actually scumread masons quite often, and it's usually for something along the lines of them being lazy with their reasoning and stances and not feeling like they're really trying to engage properly or fully play the game. That

does

make me feel somewhat better about Prism being town here. It's also now making me slowly despise masons as a role.

-- Postie

I said that before postie posted this, but it's a good example of what I'm talking about. Town is likely to go through a difficult process like this when a top scumread of theirs claims mason. Scum would probably either try to push them, or more likely just accept the masons as conftown. It just seems really hard to fake and at the very least it would take a lot of effort for not much reward if she was scum.

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but you're basically saying that almost nothing content-wise in this game has you townreading them, it's mainly meta?

The point about 2681 has nothing to do with meta

2963 mentions nothing about meta, even though meta strengthens the read.

This is true for the whole read. It would definitely still be a townread without the meta, the meta just makes it a lock.

[Commander Shepard]

AFK most of the day. Will read later.

[Almost Chara]

AC - what's up?

Almost

- you had said something earlier about wanting to talk to me. Did you still have something?

I think that may have been Chara?? They don't have full Internet access at the time.

~A50

[Commander Shepard]

Prism Drealmerz what do you need to solve the game?

At this point I think mass claim is in order.

[Commander Shepard]

It is concerning me how much power exists in this game.

[drealmerz7]

Prism Drealmerz what do you need to solve the game?

At this point I think mass claim is in order.

well I need to re-read, read this Day, and then:

1 more death should do it for me

I just have to figure out whose I want that will 1.) ofcourse most likely hit scum but if not 2.) flush out who the remaing scum are and of course 3.) a combination of 1+2 would be premium so I'm trying to figure out who qualifies

what do people think about there being 4 scum with the display of power we have going on here? if ppl addressed this already no need to repeat yourselfs, I'll get it when I read

[Empking]

I don't think we have that much power. The roleblocker is not only limited but probably hurt us this game - I think Wraith was right in think that's how the kill got pass him - my role is decent but limited (and was made negative-utility by CK's most-prominent-lurker play, FV is pretty weak (although this one seems buffed a little), and Masons are like half a PR each. Doctor's fine but it struggles to complement the power that the rest of us have.

[drealmerz7]

masons are half a PR each? that makes not much sense to me

masons are uber-powerful, arguably the most powerful town role, to me

[Almost Chara]

what do people think about there being 4 scum with the display of power we have going on here?

Do you realize if this was the case then today is MyLo already??

~A50

[drealmerz7]

what do people think about there being 4 scum with the display of power we have going on here?

Do you realize if this was the case then today is MyLo already??

~A50

not really sure I understand why you bother to even make this post

[Almost Chara]

Because it means if we mislynch it's game over, and then the 2nd point in your 3039 becomes obsolete.

~A50

[drealmerz7]

Because it means if we mislynch it's game over, and then the 2nd point in your 3039 becomes obsolete.

~A50

quit making pointless posts and either respond to what I've said or don't

[Prism]

Massclaim is something I was pondering the other day and am strongly in favor of.

[Commander Shepard]

No on 4 scum else Titus isn't lynched there.

[Tea and Biscuits]

Hey Prism, you said you were going to look into my meta more, since what you looked at already pointed to me being town.
Why haven't you?
You've just circled back to a lazy token scumread on me again and I'm still not getting the feeling that you're genuinely trying to sort me at all. It's gross af.

-- Postie

[Tea and Biscuits]

Like you've literally acknowledged that if you looked into more of my games and the contrast between my town and scum play was still as stark then I'm probably town here but you're not doing that for ??? reasons? And continuing to call me scum even though you know there's a huge fucking gap in your knowledge right now that could make or break that read?
This is willful blindness.

-- Postie