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[FireScreamer]

If I was Titus' partner i'd be picking a wagon and commiting to it. There isn't incentive for me to unvote Dave and come back to you because I am pretty sure I could in that scenario get a mislynch on Dave. I don't need to weaken my position by coming back to you. You would also be a tasty mislynch tomorrow. My actions are indicative of someone who genuinely reconsidered their position and is trying to lynch scum.

[Almost50]

My actions are indicative of someone who genuinely reconsidered their position and is trying to lynch scum.

The fact that you are aware of what "your actions are indicative of" is exactly why I doubt them being "genuine" to start with.

[FireScreamer]

Is it really worth it to act sub optimally as scum for the minimal amount of towered I get for pointing it out?

[CommKnight]

Official Vote Count

Titus

(4):

Almost50

,

Umlaut

,

davesaz

,

Brian Skies

davesaz

(3):

FireScreamer

,

Gamma Emerald

,

Titus

Gamma Emerald

(3):

RoryMK

,

Alchemist21

,

Narna

Almost50

(1):

Firebringer

Alchemist21

(1):

Green Crayons

Firebringer

(1):

CommKnight

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-05-03 20:06:48)

Town Reads

Almost50 - This guy is playing like he did in the other game I played with him where he replaced into a scummy slot (and it turned out to be a town PR). He isn't perfect on reads, but me and him working together created an unstoppable machine where the scum that I TR'd got offed because he found the flaws and pushed it. So definite asset in later days and like I say, so far, his play is similar so I think this is town.

Gamma Emerald - So his wagon has zero resistance really aside from me and Titus. That in itself tells me something is up here. Also that's one ballsy claim for a scum to make. Nor would I lynch this slot unless we EVENTUALLY mass claim (not today, stop being stupid people, you let scum!Comm me find ALL your PR's D1. Like you couldn't do jack shit last game if we went through with everything because you outed ALL of your PR's to me with the stupid RB/not RB stunt). Plus this guy was already in my TR's. His play so far has not been scum-worthy. Honestly when he does end up dying. I'm going to grill the fuck out of the early wagon for the bullshit cases they made to make him claim in the first place.

Alchemist21 - This guys gets me. If people (like GC) have a hard time understanding what I'm saying. Just ask Alchemist. He is not my unpaid interpreter. The fact he is trying to explain my actions out to town instead of boarding the bandwagon against me. Scum won't bloody do that. If you SR Alchemist currently, you need to rethink your entire reads list if they're that far off base.

Town Leans

davesaz - I wasn't liking daves early play. But lately he's been picking it up and seems to be genuine in questions and sorting people. Can't be 100% on this slot, but hey, for Day 1, I think he's a good town lean. It's one of those slots I can't find anything he's posted to solidify him here, but the gut says if I don't, I'm going to regret it later.

Titus - Gut. Pure gut. If I were to base off just his play, I'd lean scum on Titus. But the way he's after FS like I am, could be buddying me, but if FS is red like I think FS is, then Titus is town. (If FS is green, as I said before, Titus is going to find themselves towards the orange/red real fast). As I don't think Titus would bus FS to help me push him like Titus has so far but if FS is really town, then could be just trying to play me to set up a mislynch and blame it on me.

Green Crayons - He has no associates this game. I've been eyeing how people interact with GC so far this game and I don't think he has a mason buddy or a scum buddy. He's also going balls deep in questions and not afraid to have a different reads. I'd say SK/Town here. With more of a lean on Town. If someone were to try to claim GC was scum, I'd tell them to go float themselves (The 100 reference yo). I'm definitely solid on him being SK/Town. Scum is out of the question.

Neutral

Brian Skies - This one is all over the place. Some of his cases are okay, but some of them could use some work. Honestly, just giving him a Day 1 break since I don't know how to read his play currently as I have no real experience with him.

RoryMK - This is one of the other slots I'd say could be SK if one exists. He has no clear buddies/mason friends. He's alone like GC. Except unlike GC, he hasn't really risked anything for his reads. Kinda feels more of a play-it-safe so far. Not sure how to read Rory yet.

Narna - The early play felt townie, but honestly lately some of it seems a bit bandwagon mentality. Could be town tired of a long D1 or could be scum. So rather neutral on Narna for today.

Scum Lean

Umlaut - He's starting to bring out his math like last game. However his early defense of FS (even when FS admittingly suspected him) and his "cases" so far this game have felt faker than HH breast implants or the idea that Toronto Maple Leafs will win the Stanley Cup. He accuses me of hiding behind gambler fallacy yet he uses the very same probability stuff to excuse himself from looking at the posts. I don't think he's really analyzed anyone so far this game. (At least not sincerely).

FireScreamer - What can I say? Soft a PR, sure. Buy yourself a day or two. Doesn't make my read of you any townier. Unless you were town trying to act scummy so you wouldn't die in the night? (LOL, stealing my thunder with that one).

Firebringer - Honestly, his play hasn't been good. The only thing that bought him time before was my idea of not lynching into the scum team from last game and Frank's earlier play. But Firebringer brings the fire alright to the scum team. By drawing my vote to his ass.



Now with that out of the way with (evidently, not all my reads are as strong as others, some of them I just can't be assed tonight to explain out any further than I have). I hate Day One's. Honestly, I'm a lot better later on in the game when we begin getting results, flips and associations. But I feel like we've hit a brick wall for all we can really find today and I kinda just want today done and over with (after over 140 pages between both games and not a single flip!!!).

So hate me if you want, but I think Firebringer lynch is the way to go. Outside of my town reads/leans, it becomes risky to lynch some of the others without more evidence for/against them that we might hit a town PR which I'd rather we not out any more today. Give scum less info to go into N1 with.

[CommKnight]

Also I just noticed how most of my reads list have 4 sets of 3's mostly.

[Titus]

Almost50 is just scum. Regardless of anyone else's alignment. I read him pretty well and this looks like Smackdown.

No Comm.

If we want to lynch scum

Dave Shannon.

[Gamma Emerald]

Almost50 is just scum. Regardless of anyone else's alignment. I read him pretty well and this looks like Smackdown.

No Comm.

If we want to lynch scum

Dave Shannon.

A50 is shannon

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh lol thought you were talking to A50

[Titus]

Oh lol thought you were talking to A50

I am sick and struggling sorry. They are the same.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm the idiot here

[Aristophanes]

Official Vote Count

Titus

(4): Almost50, Umlaut, davesaz, Brian Skies

Gamma Emerald

(4): RoryMK, Alchemist21, Narna, FireScreamer

davesaz

(2): Gamma Emerald, Titus

Almost50

(1): Firebringer

Alchemist21

(1): Green Crayons

Firebringer

(1): CommKnight

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-05-03 20:06:48)

[Firebringer]

Almost50 if you wish to make a case for why Shannon was town I'd like to hear it

I don't know if you realize how stupid this is.

Also, not RB.

I am very stupid.

[Firebringer]

Firebringer - Honestly, his play hasn't been good. The only thing that bought him time before was my idea of not lynching into the scum team from last game and Frank's earlier play. But Firebringer brings the fire alright to the scum team. By drawing my vote to his ass.

What hasn't been good about my play here?
I don't understand second sentence of your last game and how that relates to this game.
You wrote sentences and sentences on your other reads and you just say I am not playing well, so I should get lynched....

And what makes you think i am not a power role?

[Firebringer]

So hate me if you want, but I think Firebringer lynch is the way to go. Outside of my town reads/leans, it becomes risky to lynch some of the others without more evidence for/against them that we might hit a town PR which I'd rather we not out any more today. Give scum less info to go into N1 with.

Ohhh I get it.
You see me as a worthless slot and I should be lynched because of that and you think I am unlikely Power role.

Got it.
Got it.

Carry on.

[Brian Skies]

FireScreamer is OBVIOUSLY trying to put the wheels back on Gamma to save Titus. dave's wagon hit a brick wall and scum need a counter wagon to beat the one on Titus. That's TWO SCUMS I've nailed so far and I'm willing to wager the whole game on them BOTH flipping red.

What're your thoughts on Titus trying to wagon and lynch FireScreamer then?

[Brian Skies]

I would lynch Titus over Dave and would still love to lynch Rory (who's been avoiding this game since Wednesday).

[Firebringer]

I would not lynch either of those people

[FireScreamer]

Who would you lynch. We are near deadline so be realistic and somewhat flexible

[Umlaut]

Brian, I don't find Rory's activity level alignment-indicative at all for him. Speaking as someone who's run a few games in Radja's queue, there are frequently long waits for listmod action there, suggesting that being away from the site for extended periods is his usual MO.

I know that's not the only thing you've said about him, but it's worth responding to since you brought it up.

[Firebringer]

Who would you lynch. We are near deadline so be realistic and somewhat flexible

Almost50 or you. You are both scum reads so.....

[Almost50]

Almost50 is just scum. Regardless of anyone else's alignment. I read him pretty well and this looks like Smackdown.

No Comm.

If we want to lynch scum

Dave Shannon.

1- What does my play here have to do with Smackdown?
2- I challenged you once, and I challenged twice, but you opted to deflect. Maybe 3rd time is lucky?? Let's make this an unofficial gladiate between you and me, shall we?

[Almost50]

FireScreamer is OBVIOUSLY trying to put the wheels back on Gamma to save Titus. dave's wagon hit a brick wall and scum need a counter wagon to beat the one on Titus. That's TWO SCUMS I've nailed so far and I'm willing to wager the whole game on them BOTH flipping red.

What're your thoughts on Titus trying to wagon and lynch FireScreamer then?

Early day wagons rarely ever bear fruit, and especially those of D1. Titus rarely ever busses, but she sure knows how to distance.

[FireScreamer]

Consider my both on both Dave and Gamma for purposes of last minute wagoning but not Titus.

[FireScreamer]

my vote*

[Firebringer]

Firescreamer why can't we be buds, is it because I scum read you?
Because I am pretty sure you can still buddy me even if I think ur evil