Spring Fever (Endgame)

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Which is what makes me waffle on you or Vecna as Dunn's buddy.

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Also, here I am paraphrasing Bella's reads from earlier (real life) today in the pile she and I are trying to sort. She can call me out on this if it's wrong but here's the gist of her reads from scum (top) to town (bottom)

(notice how Aelita moved further down after day start).

dunnstral vecna
aelita
titus eddie

although i'm pretty confident at this point you've moved up above Aelita for her. She just hasn't explicitly said it yet.

[Titus]

Titus if you're town, you've played like crap. I've consistently said it's either {Aelita/Eddie} or {Vecna/Dunn} and I'm very very very clearly leaning Vecna/Dunn now. In fact, I'm somewhat decently reading Eddiebyte as town now, and I don't think Aelita is scum based off the way I already described Bella being frustratedly town reading Aelita.

The other alternative is it's {You/Dunn}, but then you're not town playing like crap. You're just scum in that scenario.

Hardly. I was on the scum lynch. My townreads are townreading each other. We're closing the wagon.

If you're leaning Vecna/Dunn, why won't you vote and stay on Vecna? Vecna has a wagon and isn't essential to clear people.

Because I'm not sure if it's you or Vecna who is Dunn's partner.

can you not see how I've flip-flopped on that?

But you refusing EVERY FUCKING POINT I make isn't fucking helping me townread you or scumread Vecna.

Case vecna for me. work with me if you're town.

for the record, some of your townreads (Alisae, Transcend, Eddiebyte) are now townreading me.

And they aren't my core.

I'd have to find a coherent point in your wall to respond to, which is why I'm responding to Heartless.

My case is my D1 ISO.

I'm usually spot on at reading Vecna. He resembles PYP more so than Civilization. We fought in both games. There's a distinct difference in tone. He's also been going after Dunn and Aelita, which I find scummy. Vecna has many of the same patterns as you, flailing, looking for a mislynch and grandstanding.

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I'd have to find a coherent point in your wall to respond to, which is why I'm responding to Heartless.

Let it be known for the record Titus thinks I don't have any coherent points.

[Titus]

Alisae usually has a spot on for reading TB. She hard scumread him. TB lurked and left.

Vecna is on the middle, which suggests busser (but hardly proves).

Vecna never really mentioned s letters.

[Titus]

I'd have to find a coherent point in your wall to respond to, which is why I'm responding to Heartless.

Let it be known for the record Titus thinks I don't have any coherent points.

On Bella, that's correct. You never grandstanded like this in Civilization.

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I'm usually spot on at reading Vecna. He resembles PYP more so than Civilization. We fought in both games. There's a distinct difference in tone. He's also been going after Dunn and Aelita, which I find scummy. Vecna has many of the same patterns as you, flailing, looking for a mislynch and grandstanding.

Ok Vecna noticed a distinct difference in Dunn in PYP compared to here.

Do you agree or disagree with that assessment from Vecna?

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I'd have to find a coherent point in your wall to respond to, which is why I'm responding to Heartless.

Let it be known for the record Titus thinks I don't have any coherent points.

On Bella, that's correct. You never grandstanded like this in Civilization.

WHAT THE FUCK?

YOU LEGITIMATELY THINK EVERY POINT I'VE BROUGHT UP ABOUT BELLA IS NOT LEGITIMATE?

BULLCRAP

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Here, their first impulse is to work with me. They wanted to align immediately, just like in SU2. They were immediately crushed, just like in SU2.

Bella's first impulse is to be wary of me because I mislynch her as town because she's an easy fucking mislynch as town. She finally came around to me after some paranoia about me. Go look at her soulread of my meta and tell me this isn't the case.

If you can read your own reason, then read my reason and say mine is invalid while yours is valid, then I'm just going to blacklist you.

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Unless you're scum.

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Alisae usually has a spot on for reading TB. She hard scumread him. TB lurked and left.

WHICH IS WHY I JUMPED ON THAT READ AND PRESSURED IT.

I EVEN CALLED TB OUT FOR MASSIVELY JUMPING ON EDDIEBYTE'S SUPPOSED SCUM SLIP WHEN EVEN I... THE FINDER OF THE SUPPOSED SCUM SLIP...SAID IT COULD BE A HYDRA SLIP.

[Titus]

Here, their first impulse is to work with me. They wanted to align immediately, just like in SU2. They were immediately crushed, just like in SU2.

Bella's first impulse is to be wary of me because I mislynch her as town because she's an easy fucking mislynch as town. She finally came around to me after some paranoia about me. Go look at her soulread of my meta and tell me this isn't the case.

If you can read your own reason, then read my reason and say mine is invalid while yours is valid, then I'm just going to blacklist you.

No. Your reads can be valid. They just aren't in a manner I understand if you're town. I'm not even saying you're not trying.

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fuck it

VOTE: Vecna

I think you and I might be TvT'ing and you're just absolute shit and not reconsidering anything I say.

At least I reconsider.

[Titus]

Alisae usually has a spot on for reading TB. She hard scumread him. TB lurked and left.

WHICH IS WHY I JUMPED ON THAT READ AND PRESSURED IT.

I EVEN CALLED TB OUT FOR MASSIVELY JUMPING ON EDDIEBYTE'S SUPPOSED SCUM SLIP WHEN EVEN I... THE FINDER OF THE SUPPOSED SCUM SLIP...SAID IT COULD BE A HYDRA SLIP.

Great.

[Titus]

fuck it

VOTE: Vecna

I think you and I might be TvT'ing and you're just absolute shit and not reconsidering anything I say.

At least I reconsider.

That's what I am doing with Heartless and thank you.

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If Vecna is scum we powerlynch Dunn tomorrow.

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If Vecna is town I am 1v1'ing Titus.

[Titus]

If Vecna is scum we powerlynch Dunn tomorrow.

We'll see on this.

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If Vecna is scum we powerlynch Dunn tomorrow.

We'll see on this.

Of course we will.

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If Vecna is town I am 1v1'ing Titus.

And you agree to this?

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The best part is, Vecna wasn't even in your top 3.

Your top 3 was

JJ
Random
Bella

(in whatever order)

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Also -- post game. You come tell me how my Bella reasons weren't actually reasons.

I look forward to this.

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Considering I've NEVER been wrong on Bella, I look forward to you telling me how I'm wrong when it turns out i'll ultimately be right.

[Titus]

If Vecna is town I am 1v1'ing Titus.

And you agree to this?

No. Obviously. I want to talk to Heartless about your reaction here. He expected you to flail if I pushed on your Bella read. I'm going to ask him to vet your flail, although he probably doesn't need to read all of it.

My townreads and I agree on who to lynch.

[Titus]

Also -- post game. You come tell me how my Bella reasons weren't actually reasons.

I look forward to this.

They aren't anything I understand. They are technically reasons.