Pathfinder? Pathfinder.

[Ether]

Advanced Player's Guide is the sourcebook that introduced the base classes, so it's probably okay.

[Annadog40]

I'm going to be V/LA next week so if it is going on then, someone can take my slot.

[RadiantCowbells]

Umm there's actually no huge cats in the game so that plan is ruined unless I can shapeshift into a giant modified tiger variant

[MTD]

What's your problem with regular big cats?

[RadiantCowbells]

I would stop progressing in wild shape after level 6

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Umm there's actually no huge cats in the game so that plan is ruined unless I can shapeshift into a giant modified tiger variant

rc check out treantmonk's druid guide

i linked the second part since i think that part covers the build you're going for?

druids in PF generally have to specialize in either casting or melee to be effective (unlike 3.5 where they can do both well) so this is the melee build

[RadiantCowbells]

Ah whatever screw min/maxing

I SHALL BE THE LION TOTEM DRUID IF WE ARE USING APG

but I still would like to be able to wild shape into giant-modified things if possible =]

[Charles510]

So we have a Druid, who else has decided on a class? If other people have a preference I'm going to wait to see what others pick and then choose a role that might be missing from the group.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

so far i feel we're pretty covered?

my heart is set on ninja/sorcerer/arcane trickster. no one judge me.
mcmenno is looking at summoner right now
mtd is definitely going magus
ether, if she plays, is going with vitalist

haven't heard from fire or anna yet

my guess would be, if you're looking to fill a hole, to take either cleric or wizard. summoner might be a bit lacking for a primary caster and i will not have the spell slots to take that role. but i think we're set in terms of basics (we have two frontliners, a skill monkey, an eidolon, and a 3/4 caster? and if ether plays a healer)

[gigabyteTroubadour]

not that "healer" should ever be considered a primary role in combat

[Annadog40]

I might take summoner cause then I can summon spiders since a druid/spider would be more strength and my char is ratfolk which doesn't go for strength.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I might take summoner cause then I can summon spiders since a druid/spider would be more strength and my char is ratfolk which doesn't go for strength.

if you want to summon spiders you could go for a conjuration-focused wizard and summon them! they come into the spell list at level 3 and with higher level summon spells you could summon a giant horde of spiders which would make a really good wall for the party

wizard gets a better spell list and is considered one of the strongest classes in the game, too

i'd definitely consider it

[Annadog40]

But can they turn into a spider?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

But can they turn into a spider?

starting at level 5, yes, you can take Beast Shape I and turn into any small or medium monster

and at higher levels you could turn into an even larger (or smaller!) spider

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i'm not sure if actually turning into a spider is like worth building for but i can see the merits into turning into a little spider to scout areas (though i'll likely wind up being the better scout at higher levels, you might need to crawl through a small hole at one point of the game or something)

[Annadog40]

That is my character's goal, they love spiders.

[McMenno]

I might take summoner cause then I can summon spiders since a druid/spider would be more strength and my char is ratfolk which doesn't go for strength.

well I don't reallly think that's what a summoner does, or is there a build that does that?

[Annadog40]

There is a wizard build that can be spidered.

[McMenno]

rip charles

[gigabyteTroubadour]

finding the OPTIMAL way to become a spider

two summoners in the party? more likely than u think............

[Charles510]

Ok guys, I'm building a cleric.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

finding the OPTIMAL way to become a spider

two summoners in the party? more likely than u think............

hey anna if ur attatched to ratfolk i'd definitely go wizard/witch to use that awesome +2 INT

witch gets vermin shape earlier (level 5 instead of 7) but they have worse spells over all. going with a conjurer (wizard specializing in conjuration) might be your best bet for becoming One with the Spiders since ratfolk get -2 to STR which makes most of the Become a Spider and Fight concept harder to work in (but like i mentioned earlier i think there are situations where becoming a smaller spider could come in handy)

alternatively you could go with a cleric that worships spiders but i didnt recommend that since charles is going with a cleric and i dont think they get vermin shape

oh and you can probably get a spider familiar too ^_^

[Charles510]

[rb]

I JUST MESSAGED CALED I FUCKING LOVE PATHFINDER 2jfjaWIFJ OPSF SAF

shit did i miss out?

i need to lurk the arcade more

[Annadog40]

If it starts some time after Friday you can replace me cause I'll be V/LA