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[TwoFace]

why? right now I have a a bunch of people that could be scum and none of them are doing anything to make me think otherwise.

p.edit - probably not

[MortFeld]

I've said why already but I'll put together something more cohesive/coherent in a bit.

[MortFeld]

I've skimmed about 3 pages this game so I technically still need to catch up.

[Gamma Emerald]

Official VC 1.3

The largest wagon is at L-3 (Gamma Emerald)


BigYoshiFan (1) [Tarkus]
Gamma Emerald (4) [Hikari Link, MortFeld, MarioManiac4, Ircher]
TwoFace (1) [BigYoshiFan]
MortFeld (1) [Titus]
Hikari Link (1) [ChannelDelibird]
Transcend (2) [TwoFace, TwoFace]
MMM (1) [Transcend]
Transcend (2) [Gamma Emerald, MMM]


Not Voting (1) [NotTheRealPaul]

Accurate to Post #324

With 13 Alive, it's 7 to lynch.

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Youhave Transcend listed twice.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also I'm fairly certainthe wagon on me is serious

[TwoFace]

I've already bolded a request to the mod to fix the vc

[Tarkus]

ok time to get in on this, blazing hot reads coming right up

Town:
TwoFace, Hikari, Mort, Mario, Ircher

Scum:
Yoshi- Seems like a lot of defending and not much hunting
Titus- Posts are giving me an off vibe, particularly 38, 185, 201. I'm not seeing what you're seeing on Mort either.
CDB- I don't like 140 and that's all I have to go on so

Everyone else are varying shades of null. If I had to pick between the two leading wagons right now I'd vote Transcend. Town reads are there mostly because they seem to be legitimately scumhunting and don't have posts that I find too objectionable. I'm having trouble reading people so far and haven't put much time in, but this is what I got for now.

This is not my typical activity level btw. Lots of IRL craziness going on but that should let up after tomorrow!

[MortFeld]

Tarkus - GE read please

[Gamma Emerald]

ok time to get in on this, blazing hot reads coming right up

Town:
TwoFace, Hikari, Mort, Mario, Ircher

Scum:
Yoshi- Seems like a lot of defending and not much hunting
Titus- Posts are giving me an off vibe, particularly 38, 185, 201. I'm not seeing what you're seeing on Mort either.
CDB- I don't like 140 and that's all I have to go on so

Everyone else are varying shades of null

. If I had to pick between the two leading wagons right now I'd vote Transcend. Town reads are there mostly because they seem to be legitimately scumhunting and don't have posts that I find too objectionable. I'm having trouble reading people so far and haven't put much time in, but this is what I got for now.

This is not my typical activity level btw. Lots of IRL craziness going on but that should let up after tomorrow!

[MortFeld]

I guess "null" is like, not acceptable? Like 'not sure if scum or town because X posts make me lean scum but Y make me lean town,' for example, is different than, 'I have zero read on GE'.

This is not Tarkus' fault btw, I asked him to expand on his GE read. And then GE comes in and goes "He said null, dude." Like ffs

[Gamma Emerald]

So you blame me? For what exactly?

[MortFeld]

So you blame me? For what exactly?

1. Answering a question not directed toward you
2. Being incorrect that the thing quoted answers the question

And also the fact that the question was about his read of you, and that you interject there is icky.

[Gamma Emerald]

Alright I can understand that.

[Tarkus]

It's the first type of 'null' Mort, I'm leaning back-and-forth on him. He's doing a lot of asking for explanations and "what/why?" posts, but then not really digging into them. Seems kinda superficial. The questions themselves I think have been generally fair though, and he's had some posts that look kinda towny to me (82, 95, 118, 235+259)

That was a weird interjection I agree

[ChannelDelibird]

Hey, all. I was supposed to read up after some travel today but my flight got delayed and I'm outta time. I'm going to be extremely busy through Sunday and probably won't get the chance to post in that time but I assure you that I'll be throwing myself into the game as fully as possible after that. Sorry about the inconvenience!

@MOD: please note V/LA through Sunday

noted

[MortFeld]

(82, 95, 118, 235+259)

Hm? 95 is towny because? And 235? These are posts that make me scumread him ftr.

[Tarkus]

95 because I was thinking the same thing that the callout from Transcend on HL was really weak. Is discrediting bad pushes scummy? (not rhetorical)
235 seems town in conjunction with 259. Makes me believe he does in fact think that double-voter=town, and I don't have a problem with that. Makes sense to me

[Ircher]

Okay so TwoFace is a double voter for real
I'm going to tr him until I see reason to think otherwise.

@Gamma
This post is worth voting you for.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay so TwoFace is a double voter for real
I'm going to tr him until I see reason to think otherwise.

@Gamma
This post is worth voting you for.

For real? What's so scummy about it?

[BigYoshiFan]

yoshi why are you still voting twoface

Good question.
VOTE: Transcend

[Ircher]

because i come of naturally scummy

Yes, but you seem to do it purposefully which is productiv to town. Why? That's like asking to get ML'd and town are just as likely to vote you as scum.

[Ircher]

Okay so TwoFace is a double voter for real
I'm going to tr him until I see reason to think otherwise.

@Gamma
This post is worth voting you for.

For real? What's so scummy about it?

Tbf, in retrospect, it isn't as bad as I was originally thinking; just kinda felt the townread was a bit off....
Also:
UNVOTE:

[Ircher]

That said, could you guys please tell me why you refuse to read wall posts?

Mainly because I have ADD, second cause I'm on my phone most of the time and it's harder to read big walls of texts. It's easier to break them up into separate posts so I can skip the things I don't care about and focus on the stuff directed at me.

The other stuff is imo important as well so you can get reads on other players.

[Ircher]

Town have extremely legitimate reasons to worry about looking suspicious. People can and are misinterpreted and mislynched.

Town shouldn't care how people perceive them. Town shouldn't worry about being mislynched. Especially if you don't do scummy things. Every townie who's been mislynched has been guilty of doing things that they shouldn't have done. Lying, lurking,

contradictions

, whatever.

Be transparent, honest, and active and don't worry about how you are perceived. That's how I always play. Go look at all my games. I give zero fucks what people think of me. I tell the truth, I stay active, and I call things as I see it.

(See this is why I don't like reading wall posts. This post does nothing to help the game, it's a mafia theory discussion )

Contradicting one's self is a horrible thing to lynch people off of. And, the way you are perceived IS important--no one listens to the person they think is scum.

Scummy != scum. We all mistakes and we all do stupid stuff. Furthermore, town is more likely to make mistakes and more likely to own up to them.

[Ircher]

Ok, is really no one seeing what I see in Mortfield?

I don't know about you but I see town.

This. Although, I'm not sure that MMM is town at this point.