Micro 701: Defiance Mafia II - Game Over

[Ircher]

Day 2 VC #2

Drealmerz7 (0) -
McMenno (0) -
PenguinPower (0) -
Edosurist (0) -
Vaxkiller (0) -
1 Shot Vanilla Town (0) -

Charloux (2) (L-3/4) - Edosurist, Vanilla A, Vanilla B, Vanilla C, Vanilla D, Vanilla E, Vanilla F, Vanilla G, Vanilla H

The_Jester (0) -
_{Keyenpeydee (0) -
Ircher (1) - Drealm}
No Lynch (1) - McMenno
Not Voting (1) - Penguin

Lynch Threshold

With 5 votes in play, it takes 2 3/4 votes to lynch!

Deadline

Day 2 ends on Sunday May 14, 2017 5:30 PM EDT or in (expired on 2017-05-14 17:30:00).

Moderator Notes

As a reminder, while this game may be bastard, it is still a game. Please treat it as such.

Moderator V/LA 5/11.
Day 2 will also be run using plurality or a variant.

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 2

Drealm: Ircher (718)
McMenno: No Lynch (719)
Edosurist: Charloux (721) == Charloux (722)

Vaxkiller: Drealm (744)

Vanilla:
All: Charloux (727)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Day 1

Drealm: No Lynch (120)
McMenno: No Lynch (181) --> Penguin (375) --> No Lynch (619)
Penguin: Drealm (122) --> No Lynch (140) --> (Null) (141) --> Keyen (212) --> Edosurist (598) --> Charloux (600) --> No Lynch (661)
Edosurist: Penguin (363) --> Charloux (461) --> (Null) (568) --> Charloux (604) == Charloux (606)
Woodboys: Drealm (234) --> (Null) (236)
Vaxkiller: Edosurist (574) --> No Lynch (662)
Vanilla:
All: Charloux (462)
Charloux: No Lynch (139) --> (Null) (278) --> Woodboys (333) --> Penguin (393) -->

Lost Vote

Jester: Penguin (179) --> Charloux (233) --> Woodboys (297) --> Penguin (371) --> Vaxkiller (560) --> Charloux (562) --> No Lynch (632)

Dawn (Pre-Game)

Drealm: Ircher (61)
Edosurist: McMenno (4)

[Vaxkiller]

@edo, are you still hell bent on that list since PP says hes not on it?

[Edosurist]

Modified Backup Vigilante.

You're right. I don't see this on the list and don't see anything that would falsely give you that role or change from that role to something else.

@Vax
No, I'm not.
There's still the possibility that he's scum (considering what Char said), but I say we proceed to lynch the claimed scum once we believe we've gotten all the discussion today that we need.

[Vaxkiller]

here's still the possibility that he's scum (considering what Char said), but I say we proceed to lynch the claimed scum once we believe we've gotten all the discussion today that we need.

/Agreed

[McMenno]

what list

[drealmerz7]

what list

I haven't even looked at said list, but, apparently there's a list of roles that Ircher came up with in like the Grand Idea suggestion thread I think? and some ppl here think the roles in this game line up with that list because there's a couple simillarities between what some ppl have claimed here and the list

it's one of the most ridiculous things I've heard and it keeps getting pushed as truth even though I'VE SAID MULTIPLE TIMES IT'S CLEARLY ABSOLUTELY BOGUS - a RUSE/red herring that Ircher is using to fuck with us in an EXTREMELY BASTARD GAME

and some ppl can't seem to get their head around the facts/for some reason are deadset on believing the list as accurate to this game, when I don't even need to look at the list to know for certain that it is not

"let's use a publicly accessible list of roles to try and solve the game - IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!!"

[Edosurist]

dreal, did you read my last couple posts?
I count 6 of us who have claimed or implied a role that is explicitly on the list. Jester didn't have a problem so we may as well toss him in that pool. Only PP has a contradictory role.

That being said, I've stated that I'm putting the list aside (right on this page, 752).

Here is my case on Char:

So it was setup that i would die the moment someone finds my role in Irchers pile. Yes, that role is correct and i am scum, but i also think there is more to this game than that and really want to play it. Can you leave me alive if i am a treestump please

He claimed scum. If he weren't scum, he wouldn't have made this post. Maybe he would if he were a jester, but...

I'm reading through stuff again. Char was at L1/2, if he was a jester he should have just voted himself, but he didnt, so that doesnt make sense.

THen he claims scum. I dont get what the angle is there. I've never seen scum just go, "Yeah im scum" they usually fight it every step of the way until they are lynched. In a bastard setup I read that and just thought Jester.

So if he's not jester and he claimed scum, Ockahm's razor says he's scum. Will you partake in lynching scum with us?

[drealmerz7]

no, I'm ignoring everything you say

[drealmerz7]

just like you are of me

[Edosurist]

Ok, if you're not going to go for Char, what do you suggest we do instead?

[PenguinPower]

I'm up for Char.

[drealmerz7]

Ok, if you're not going to go for Char, what do you suggest we do instead?

see

you're not reading my posts

[drealmerz7]

I'm up for Char.

awww, but doesn't the mod look tasty!?

[PenguinPower]

Prefer the backup if we are going that route.

[drealmerz7]

I could totally do the backup as well

but my logic is "take out the leader, backup replaces, and then we take out the backup"

what is your logic to taking out the backup over the main?

it's like, it doesn't matter if the backup QB gets injured if the starter QB is still in the game, ya know?

[Vaxkiller]

Dreal do you really think the mod is a Jester?

[Ircher]

Would it surprise you?
I guess it woul not.
There're clues scattered about
You just gotta search throughout!

[drealmerz7]

Dreal do you really think the mod is a Jester?

no, where do you get that idea?

I think it more likely that if we kill the mod he won't fuck with our roles any more / give us switches as the game goes on (as has already happened to at least PP.)

[Vaxkiller]

The Moderator claims Jester Moderator.

[drealmerz7]

ohyes definitely

he taunts it with wifom - he must diiieeee (but again, still open to hearing other suggestions, absolutely, and will not push this even 1/3 as hard as I pushed NL on D1)

VOTE: Ircher

btw, I do thank you all for trying it, you make me proud - sucks I was wrong, it would have been awesome to see the entire PL get a win, imo!

this isn't "oh yes definitely he's a jester" this is "oh yes definitely he's a lying bastard mod taunting us to kill him with WIFOM of being a jester"

[Charloux]

Lynching me is a waste of time. I have no vote you will have the same info about my partner and you will be one vote shorter tomorrow because i won't be there to stop a town death.
Sure, you will see my flip, but i think there are juicier targets than me around.

[drealmerz7]

there are juicier targets than me around.

like the mod!

[drealmerz7]

mcmenno, penguin, just join me on the mod - that is all we need to lynch him (3)

it'll be fun!

[Edosurist]

you will have the same info about my partner and you will be one vote shorter tomorrow because i won't be there to stop a town death.

How are you currently stopping a town death? If you have no vote to gift us, I don't follow. To me, your partner looks like either PP or Jester.

Sure, you will see my flip, but i think there are juicier targets than me around.

Literally who? The mod?
Seriously, who's a better lynch than yourself currently? (question directed at Char)

[Charloux]

What is up with all this "Lynch the mod" rubish?!
I am talking about you choosing if you want 2 blocked votes and a potential dead townie, or do you want 1 blocked votes and a potential dead townie.
I have no vote anyway so if you lynch me today, the game will be decided by night actions only.