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[Tarkus]

UNVOTE:

[Tarkus]

With the bit of time I have right now:

like the reasoning behind all of the emotion related to transcend is basically non-existent, like he tunnelled transcend and I'm not really buying that this was because transcend called him an idiot backhandedly. I feel like he may have been seeking a way out of a Transcend wagon he didn't want to stay on.

Being called an idiot wasn't the reason to get on
It was however an amazing reason to stay on afterwards and shit on him for everything
If he wasn't subbed my vote would be parked, even if he's subbed it probably is
No clue what you mean by "didn't want to stay on", I'm perfectly fine with doing so //shrug

What was the reason to get on?

[MMM]

With the bit of time I have right now:

like the reasoning behind all of the emotion related to transcend is basically non-existent, like he tunnelled transcend and I'm not really buying that this was because transcend called him an idiot backhandedly. I feel like he may have been seeking a way out of a Transcend wagon he didn't want to stay on.

Being called an idiot wasn't the reason to get on
It was however an amazing reason to stay on afterwards and shit on him for everything
If he wasn't subbed my vote would be parked, even if he's subbed it probably is
No clue what you mean by "didn't want to stay on", I'm perfectly fine with doing so //shrug

What was the reason to get on?

I wanted to get reactions (and of course I wouldn't say it immediately would I) and all I saw him do in response was criticise every single lynch and continuing to give random reads with barely any explanation (which to be fair I know people do but the extent to which he did it rubbed me the wrong way)

[Tarkus]

I'm suspicious that you figured his reaction would be along those lines, like setting a test he was bound to fail (in your eyes) in order to justify pushing his wagon.

What kinda reaction would you expect if he's town?

[Hikari Link]

I just had a sudden revelation about myself and the way I handle games and my life, so my playstyle is probably about to change drastically. I don't even know how it'll change yet, because I'm still processing it, but I'll catch up and do what I can as soon as I can.

[MortFeld]

Transcend is town because if he's scum I respect him less

Tarkus feels town

Mario maybe scum but I do agree with 696

[ThinkBig]

OFFICIAL VC 1.9

Transcend

(5): TwoFace, TwoFace, MMM, Titus, -Grey-

Titus

(4): Ircher, Transcend, BigYoshiFan, Gamma Emerald

MMM

(1): MarioManiac4

Hikari Link

(1): ChannelDelibird

Gamma Emerald

(1): MortFeld

Not Voting

(2): Hikari Link, Tarkus

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-05-16 18:21:03)

[TwoFace]

It was however an amazing reason to stay on afterwards and shit on him for everything

Nah it really isn't.

[TwoFace]

Transcend is town because if he's scum I respect him less

So it's acceptable to take your ball and go home when things don't go your way only as town?

[Hikari Link]

Catching up from the last point that I was fully invested in the game. Just gonna comment on stuff as it comes up.

Also, Hikari, I'm not ignoring your suspicion. I didn't think you wanted a direct response. If you want me to address something, I'm here.

Looking back at it, that's a fair response. What's more, looking at my earlier argument, I against you, I can honestly say I find it pretty weak. I feel like that was my brain performin apophenia due to the general lack of info we had that early in the game.

[Hikari Link]

Oh, my bad then. I'm still keeping the vote for the time being though.

It's a free country. For now. But could you explain what your reasoning is?

I'll explain later - I feel like it would be counter-intuitive if I did it now.

I'm not sure if you've covered this further along, but I don't want to forget it. Is it "later" enough now?

[MortFeld]

Transcend is town because if he's scum I respect him less

So it's acceptable to take your ball and go home when things don't go your way only as town?

I wouldn't say so but I would never believe his explicit reason was genuine if he's scum and that's not acceptable to me.

[BigYoshiFan]

I feel you on that, MortFeld.

[Titus]

Transcend is town because if he's scum I respect him less

So it's acceptable to take your ball and go home when things don't go your way only as town?

I wouldn't say so but I would never believe his explicit reason was genuine if he's scum and that's not acceptable to me.

It's not acceptable regardless of Transcend's alignment. It's no more acceptable to subout because a player won't townread you when you're wagoned than it is to tell someone how to play.

Transcend started off townie but I frankly do not care for being bullied.

[MortFeld]

Transcend is town because if he's scum I respect him less

So it's acceptable to take your ball and go home when things don't go your way only as town?

I wouldn't say so but I would never believe his explicit reason was genuine if he's scum and that's not acceptable to me.

It's not acceptable regardless of Transcend's alignment. It's no more acceptable to subout because a player won't townread you when you're wagoned than it is to tell someone how to play.

Transcend started off townie but I frankly do not care for being bullied.

Like I get what you're saying but I don't think you get what I'm saying.

I don't like that he subbed out. But if he's town, I would definitely believe it's because of a personal dislike for TF. Acceptable? Prob not. But if he's scum, I would find it hard to believe it's not because he was getting wagoned. Which is much less acceptable.

[MortFeld]

The point being, I have a certain view of Transcend as a person, and him lying about why he replaced out because he's scum feels very off. I do acknowledge that he could be telling the truth and still be scum (i.e. he believes that he replaced out because of a personal dislike for TF whether or not this is actually true).

[XnadrojX]

Still looking for replacements.......

[Hikari Link]

If we're not lynching Transcend, can we lynch Mort and BYF?

I don't know if you answer this later, but why?

[Hikari Link]

Titus+Mort/BYF+GE for early scum team imo

I keep hearing people talk about this post. Can somebody please explain to me why it's so bad? From what I can gather, people are mostly saying it's pre-flip associations, but that honestly doesn't seem that bad to me. I don't know about other people, but I like calling the scum team as soon as I think I see one. I'm rarely (if ever) right, but as long as you don't tunnel that scum team to the exclusion of looking elsewhere, what's the harm?

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like I'm due for a prod
And yet it hasn't even been a day. God damn my twisted circadian rythym.
Anyway, I'll see if there's anything needing addressing since I am caught up I just haven't addressed anything recent.

[Gamma Emerald]

Tarkus, can you join us on Transcend and we do Yoshi later. I cannot vote twice.

Might I ask why you said this?

[Gamma Emerald]

I just had a sudden revelation about myself and the way I handle games and my life, so my playstyle is probably about to change drastically. I don't even know how it'll change yet, because I'm still processing it, but I'll catch up and do what I can as soon as I can.

Can you share?

[Gamma Emerald]

Transcend is town because if he's scum I respect him less

So it's acceptable to take your ball and go home when things don't go your way only as town?

I wouldn't say so but I would never believe his explicit reason was genuine if he's scum and that's not acceptable to me.

I don't think you're gonna get far with TwoFace.

[Hikari Link]

I just had a sudden revelation about myself and the way I handle games and my life, so my playstyle is probably about to change drastically. I don't even know how it'll change yet, because I'm still processing it, but I'll catch up and do what I can as soon as I can.

Can you share?

I guess I can now that the game ended. This is the post where I had the epiphany, but there were several posts leading up to it. To make a long story short, I realized that I need to relax a little and be less controlling. I also need to be more willing to rely on other people.

[Hikari Link]

Like I said, I'm still trying to figure out exactly what that means in terms of how I conduct myself in general.