Mini 1907: Oddrole Mafia IV (Game over)

[GinghamDog]

Alright, she's good. I was voting Chick because I felt like I would be able to read any significant difference between her play in Oddrole III and here, so if we put some pressure on her it would bring out her scuminess if it was there and reveal her towniness if it wasn't.

I'm convinced that her readslist came from town, because it looks nothing like the scum!Chickadee that I worked with last game.

Can you elaborate a little? From my perspective, Chick has about the same tone as she did in Oddrole III. I don't necessarily scum read her for that since it might be her usual tone regardless of alignment, but I don't see any major differences.

[GinghamDog]

If there's a whoooooole lot of them, then enlighten us as to what they are.

Maybe a bit hyperbolic of me but I put three in the post you quoted. How many more would you like

I thought you were saying there were multiple scum tells in 136 alone, nevermind.

[podoboq]

Alright, she's good. I was voting Chick because I felt like I would be able to read any significant difference between her play in Oddrole III and here, so if we put some pressure on her it would bring out her scuminess if it was there and reveal her towniness if it wasn't.

I'm convinced that her readslist came from town, because it looks nothing like the scum!Chickadee that I worked with last game.

Can you elaborate a little? From my perspective, Chick has about the same tone as she did in Oddrole III. I don't necessarily scum read her for that since it might be her usual tone regardless of alignment, but I don't see any major differences.

Partially a gut thing, I think, but she definitely didn't seem this invested in Oddrole III. She never felt like she had to be defensive in that game when she was one of the prospective lynches, and here she's making good content to spite her voters, even giving us a color coded readlist.

10/10

[Desperado]

ya but color coded reads lists that don't actually contain any reads are scummy

[Chickadee]

ya but color coded reads lists that don't actually contain any reads are scummy

Did you even read it? I told y'all where I'm currently at on every slot in the game.

[Desperado]

yes I read it

showing us where you are with every slot at this stage of the game is scum motivated. most of your thoughts are meaningless.

[podoboq]

yes I read it

showing us where you are with every slot at this stage of the game is scum motivated. most of your thoughts are meaningless.

I thought it was pretty good.

Maybe you're just salty about being in the red part of the list.

[Rautherdir]

yes I read it

showing us where you are with every slot at this stage of the game is scum motivated. most of your thoughts are meaningless.

What.

No. Reads list are extremely town motivated. For one thing it helps build associations. For another it helps people understand your thought process.

[podoboq]

yes I read it

showing us where you are with every slot at this stage of the game is scum motivated. most of your thoughts are meaningless.

What.

No. Reads list are extremely town motivated. For one thing it helps build associations. For another it helps people understand your thought process.

I like this guy

[Desperado]

why would I be salty about being red when nothing she said about me is scummy?

@rauther, in general sure, but that reads lost right there exists only to make her look town. there's very little associative value in it and the thought processes are all extremely shallow.

[Desperado]

everything is weird, odd, or bizarre...the distinctions in the middle make no sense...her top two town are described as vaguely as possible...and her scumreads are straight omgus and flavor of the month

[Rautherdir]

I actually agree with Chickadee in her reasons for her read on you. Please look at the rest of the players and re-evaluate.

@Chickadee: Being tunneled on someone is null, town is just as likely to do it as scum. That said it is generally harmful play except in certain scenarios.

[Chickadee]

why would I be salty about being red when nothing she said about me is scummy?

@rauther, in general sure, but that reads lost right there exists only to make her look town. there's very little associative value in it and the thought processes are all extremely shallow.

Are you kidding? It's page 8 on D1 of a so-far slow game.

By all means, give us your reads list.

[massive]

Chickadee: If you're curious about me (as you noted in your readslist) and are putting me into what I assume is the "sorta scummy" orange pool, why aren't you working to sort me further?

[Chickadee]

Chickadee: If you're curious about me (as you noted in your readslist) and are putting me into what I assume is the "sorta scummy" orange pool, why aren't you working to sort me further?

Where did I imply that I wasn't? I said what I find odd about you (your vote on javajoe). Give me more content to further sort you with. Or defend yourself.

Being sorta scummy doesn't mean that you're forever scummy.

[Desperado]

why would I be salty about being red when nothing she said about me is scummy?

@rauther, in general sure, but that reads lost right there exists only to make her look town. there's very little associative value in it and the thought processes are all extremely shallow.

Are you kidding? It's page 8 on D1 of a so-far slow game.

By all means, give us your reads list.

the point

---- <-- your head

[Chickadee]

I'm not spending any more time focusing on my wagon. It's a stupid wagon comprised of weak reasoning, and I think it's just a distraction from getting stuff done at this point.

Moving on.

[Almost50]

Almost, who is the scum driving the Chickadee wagon?

Like, I can't ponpoint who is scum and who is just being bad. All I know os it's a bad wagon and it's bound to have scum on it.

[Creature]

You notice something's wrong when someone has more scumreads than townreads.

[Creature]

Aaaaah, you're using "good content so far" to townread.

[Creature]

And yeah, don't claim if we aren't even planning to lynch you soon.

[GinghamDog]

Desperado's tunneling, although I don't agree with it, feels more like town tunneling than scum.

Not sure what to do with massive; I think he's barked up two wrong trees (java and chick) but there's still not a lot of content to sort out. Maybe a slight scum lean on gut.

Rautherdir I kinda like. Null-to-town on him based on his interaction with Desperado and Chick.

Podo I'm null on, and it has a lot to do with last game, where I kept scum-reading him in the back of my mind but would always talk myself out of it, only to lose for that very reason. So naturally you can understand I'm cautious with him.

GuiltyLion I'm waffling on. On the surface he seems towny, but there's hints of some casual pot stirring in 128 and 140. For instance, in 128 he's ever so casually throwing doubt on Desperado, Chick, and myself all at the same time. I did like 59 though. So maybe I'm just seeing things and he's making legitimate points, but in any case I've got my eye on him.

[GinghamDog]

So, for clarity, here's how I currently see it, which I'll admit is largely made of leans and a couple hunches:

More townish:
TheBrie
Javajoe24
Desperado
Almost50
Creature
Rautherdir

Still nullish:
podoboq
GuiltyLion
boring
Chickadee

More scummish:
massive
SnarkySnowman

I should clarify that the bottom two are just slightly below the null line, and if both of them would post more, they could easily move up.

[eagerSnake]

VC 1.10

Chickadee (4) [L-3]: Desperado, SnarkySnowman, boring, Creature
Javajoe24 (2) [L-5]: Almost50, massive
SnarkySnowman (2) [L-5]: Rautherdir, GinghamDog
massive (1) [L-6]: GuiltyLion
podoboq (1) [L-6]: TheBrie

Not Voting (3): Chickadee, Javajoe24, podoboq

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline in (expired on 2017-05-19 12:33:03).

[Desperado]

chick lists snarky as her top scumread but doesnt vote him despite being the leading wagon and him already having votes

chickadee + snarky + ?? easy peasy?