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TwoFace · Post Post #900 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 3:10 pm

the only real issue I had with titus was her bad vote on mort and badly interpreting what mort was doing but I don't really think that was lynch worthy.
Yoshi's reasons isn't that great either.

has anyone else made a good case for titus?

ISO · Post Post #901 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 3:11 pm

This isn't town!Titus.

ISO · Post Post #902 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 3:12 pm

In post 819, Ircher wrote:1. 702 by MMM really doesn't strike me the right way. I think 703 sums up my concerns for the most part, but I also think it's being stated after-the-fact.

2. 731 by Titus also feels off. But, I'm gonna try to avoid reading a lot into it.

3. 770 by Mario --> I disagree with your statement that I haven't done much this game. There's a lot of noise right now, so I haven't done much recently, but otherwise, I've done quite some.

Yeah, so a lot of noise and not a lot that I feel the need to comment on in the last 6 pages. I'm still convinced that Titus's slot has the best chances of flipping scum at the moment.

I mean, town!Titus for starters tend to be actively involved in the game. In this game, Titus just seems to be skirting by on as little as she can.

In post 445, Ircher wrote:
In post 398, Transcend wrote:
In post 394, MortFeld wrote:Who would you say is good at reading you? Certainly I wouldn't be in that category since I've never read you as scum.
Titus

And she isn't defending me or anything like she does as town

VOTE: Titus

Titus doesn't feel like town!her. For starters, her scunread on Transcend seems to clash greatly with the way she usually plays town: it shows a very closed perspective in contrast to Titus in Mini 1900 who kept a fairly open perspective and worked harder to get things done. She definitely didn't scumread Transcend there even though Transcend is playing pretty much the same here as well.

TwoFace · Post Post #903 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 3:18 pm

your reasons are all meta based and since I hate meta that makes your case a bad case.

show me scum intent behind titus posts. don't relay on how titus plays as a certain alignment in other games

TwoFace · Post Post #904 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 3:25 pm

I don't fully scum read that slot so I am definitely going to put him at L-1.
I don't even town read the people pushing that slot.

WhemeStar · Post Post #905 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 3:26 pm

Twoface sheep me

TwoFace · Post Post #906 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 3:33 pm

you replaced my top scum read. literally no chance I sheep you.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #907 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 3:35 pm

Who are your town reads?

TwoFace · Post Post #908 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 3:39 pm

mmm and mort

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #909 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 3:44 pm

And any other scumreads?

TwoFace · Post Post #910 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 3:50 pm

my top 2 scum reads are you and transcend. I am not really a fan of Gamma either though. Ircher hanging onto meta reasons don't really look townie to me either. I feel like at this stage he could point to game related reasons.

TwoFace · Post Post #911 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 3:58 pm

btw it is basically taking every ounce of energy in my body to ignore responding to post 899. The fact that he actually thinks me wanting to PL him is a personal insult just shows what this game is going to turn into...

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #912 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 4:04 pm

Alright. Thanks.
I dunno, I just wanted to know. XD
Maybe spark a conversation or two.

P-edit: I'm sure everyone appreciates that, TwoFace. I know I do.

WhemeStar · Post Post #913 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 4:23 pm

In post 906, TwoFace wrote:you replaced my top scum read. literally no chance I sheep you.

Well I can be your town read cause I'm town

TwoFace · Post Post #914 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 4:24 pm

heading to bed. for those who aren't familiar with fitz be prepared for a bunch of these kinds of posts

viewtopic.php?p=9067960#p9067960

I personally hate them for the click/read/back button and then repeat 20/30 more times and would rather direct interactions or at least quoting the entire post instead of providing links but maybe you guys like them. (probably why he and I don't get along. these posts I find incredibly anti town and is usually why I scum read him)

TwoFace · Post Post #915 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 4:25 pm

In post 913, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 906, TwoFace wrote:you replaced my top scum read. literally no chance I sheep you.
Well I can be your town read cause I'm town

no you aren't. you can say it a bazillion times but you aren't and you will probably be the lynch today if I have anything to say about it.

XnadrojX · Post Post #916 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 5:20 pm

I've said it before, my game is not the place to start personal grudges. Do that in PMs or somewhere unimportant. My previous new rules on toxicity still stands and I will act on it accordingly. I am an unbiased mod. Give each other chances, I don't want to be that mod who has to forcereplace halftheir game because a flame war started.

If a player is being toxic, do note that WOTC is indeed in effect. If you feel a player is degrading the state of the game, do a favour and just state your opinion nicely instead of being toxic about it. Don't sink to that level.

Now that the serious stuff is over, VC coming soon.

TwoFace · Post Post #917 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 5:40 pm

Ok well consider my 2 votes on fitz. So in theory he's at l-1.

Can't put up with those anti town wall posts and lack of player interaction.

Wheme you get a break today I guess.

Hikari Link · Post Post #918 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 6:18 pm

In post 914, TwoFace wrote:heading to bed. for those who aren't familiar with fitz be prepared for a bunch of these kinds of posts

viewtopic.php?p=9067960#p9067960

I personally hate them for the click/read/back button and then repeat 20/30 more times and would rather direct interactions or at least quoting the entire post instead of providing links but maybe you guys like them. (probably why he and I don't get along. these posts I find incredibly anti town and is usually why I scum read him)

I don't consider that type of posting anti-town at all. I find it extremely pro-town, though I do think writing is a bit better, if you use spoiler tags. Though I think that has more to do with needing to get better at formatting to make his posts more digestible by people of every playstyle. But you've already expressed that you don't like long posts because of your ADD, so I can see why you hold that position.

XnadrojX · Post Post #919 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 6:35 pm

Note to all the replacements, I have at one point (lazy to find the post), announced that due to the threat of flame wars starting, I will be enforcing harsher restrictions on being toxic.

This will come with harsher punishments too

. WOTC and WOTM is in effect, so do not give yourself any reason to be force replaced.

MarioManiac4 · Post Post #920 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 6:44 pm

In post 844, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 834, MarioManiac4 wrote:BigYoshiFan's posts on Titus' replacing being AI feel weirdish still, like he is looking for reasons to scumread Titus because of the momentum planted there. His vote on Titus overall really doesn't make much sense to me. So I guess scum could be there? I'm looking at the ISOs and posts in this game and I'm thinking, "alright, this one could be about scumhunting, it could be doing x" but it's hard to determine what is actually happening. I'm going to be referring to more recent posts from here on out and see if it helps if I read the discussions in real time individually and ask questions about them.
What about my vote doesn't make sense?

I see you saying Titus is scum for being opportunistic but there's really nothing like that, just Titus changing her reads. If we were going like that, I could vote you for pushing a slot that replaced out, but that doesn't really make you scum, right? And I don't feel like what Titus did was AI enough to get this amount of effort on tbh.
Of course that probably doesn't make you scum anyways but it does feel scummy to me.

XnadrojX · Post Post #921 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 6:46 pm

Votecount 1.13The Largest Wagon is at L-3 (havingfitz)

havingfitz (4) [Ircher, BigYoshiFan, Gamma Emerald, Hikari Link]
MMM (1) [Tarkus]
WhemeStar (1) [MMM]
Gamma Emerald (1) [MortFeld]
Ircher (1) [WhemeStar]
Hikari Link (1) [ChannelDelibird]

Not Voting (4) [havingfitz, RayFrost, TwoFace, MarioManiac4]

Accurate to Post #920

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

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MarioManiac4 · Post Post #922 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 6:48 pm

In post 893, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm down with flash wagoning fitz

why? You were fine with letting him go a few posts ago.
In fact I looked through your ISO and there's barely any mention of Titus at all. Just a blank vote, one question you didn't seem to do anything with.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #923 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 6:49 pm

In post 922, MarioManiac4 wrote:
In post 893, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm down with flash wagoning fitz
why? You were fine with letting him go a few posts ago.
In fact I looked through your ISO and there's barely any mention of Titus at all. Just a blank vote, one question you didn't seem to do anything with.

I changed my mind about letting him go since the tell I thought of went for his predecessor too.

MarioManiac4 · Post Post #924 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 6:49 pm

In post 915, TwoFace wrote:
In post 913, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 906, TwoFace wrote:you replaced my top scum read. literally no chance I sheep you.
Well I can be your town read cause I'm town
no you aren't. you can say it a bazillion times but you aren't and you will probably be the lynch today if I have anything to say about it.

I'm probably being stupid here, but don't you want to lynch fitz at this point?