Mini Normal 1908 - In The Web (Game Over)

[TwoFace]

That's a good post. I had forgotten he was also on mort's case for asking questions.

[Ircher]

Titus Evaluation

1. 38 --> Votes Mort cuz she doesn't like his responses -->

I disagree greatly with the assessment. His reads look fine imo and show a town thought process. It seems more like Titus is simpl trying to find something she can attack herself -- how ironic!

2. 171 --> Elaborates on Mort read; mainly states that Mort's stuff lacks depth and asks too many questions -->

Honestly, I still feel like Titus is trying to find things to attack; Titus made the original read about 1 1/2 pages into the game. So, w/ RVS et cetera, there isn't going to be a lot to analyze so questions won't have a lot of depth. While the # of Qs Mort asked was kinda high, I don't necessarily see it as scum-motivated.

3. 177 --> Admits reasoning was bad cuz trying to get things going -->

And this feels like Titus is distancing from her read. Had she said this way earlier, I might buy it, but this seems to be Titus thinking "Oops! I better try to play that read off as non-serious". I don't buy it at all.

4. 178 --> Mort/Yoshi pinged her as partners -->

This early in the game? I mean, 68 kinda pinged me as Titus / MMM being possible partners, but by no means did I see a solid association between the two. Unless Titus elaborates later, this association read feels superficial and an attempt to appear to have reads while simultaneously casting shade at another player.

5. 182 --> Transcend is weak town -->

I would like to note that this happened after Transcend said that town!Titus pretty much always defends him at this point in the game. Titus is obviously trying to keep her options open.

6. 387 --> Asks how Tarkus can see things as her on Mort despite not understanding Titus's posts -->

Different perspective perhaps? Feels like another shade-throwing attempt. Not to mention that Titus hasn't been too specific in her read, so it's pretty difficult to understand when one quotes zero evidence.

7. 408 --> Says town!Trans actually pressures people -->

What suggests he isn't? Also, I honestly don't see the difference between Transcend here and Transcend in 1900. Again, I think this is scum Titus keeping her options open.

So that is my not meta-based case on Titus.

Quoting this for new page.

[TwoFace]

VOTE: fitz

second

VOTE: fitz

He's at L-2.

[TwoFace]

Ha... Grey notices the same BYF unvote delay on Transcend as I point our earlier.

this is hilarious. Hilariously bad.

Fitz is actually trying to take credit for noticing something that somebody else already noticed first.

[BigYoshiFan]

Nice to see you agree now.

[Gamma Emerald]

Ha... Grey notices the same BYF unvote delay on Transcend as I point our earlier.

this is hilarious. Hilariously bad.

Fitz is actually trying to take credit for noticing something that somebody else already noticed first.

I'd like to know how this is scummy

[TwoFace]

Ok so ask somebody who said it was scummy

[Gamma Emerald]

You said it was bad. I don't even consider it bad, it's just mirror tell.

[TwoFace]

Yes I said it's bad cause it is. Although it's actually something fitz is narcissistic enough to do as either alignment but something he could easily do as scum.

In the end it's not AI.

I'm just kind of poking fun at his post. He's posting things that nobody cares about for the sake of looking busy. It's just Information without any real analysis (which used to be considered a scum tell until people started doing them as town. I assume because they were terrible at playing scum and had to dumb down their town play)

[Gamma Emerald]

Alright. That clear things up.

[havingfitz]

Reading on from 750.

Been leaning town on Mort but not caring for his multiple excuse posts the last page or two.

Lot of discussion on the Titus and Transcend replace outs. I know Titus' was not because she was caught scum, because she wasn't scum, and I suspect Transcend's was for the reasons he stated...not based on anything AI.

LOL at Targus getting annoyed and TwoFace's incessant whining. Welcome to my world.

Done up through page 40.

Reads are:

Town - Hiraki Link, TwoFace, RayFrost and Mort (though more for early play than late meh)
Slight town lean - Tarkus, Mario
No idea - CDB, Gamma
Slight suspicions - Ircher and MMM
Scum reads Whemestar and BYF

Probably ISO from Gamma on down tomorrow. Late...going to bed. Will give more detail on reads in the morning and vote.

[havingfitz]

Ha... Grey notices the same BYF unvote delay on Transcend as I point our earlier.

this is hilarious. Hilariously bad.

Fitz is actually trying to take credit for noticing something that somebody else already noticed first.

My comments are in the order I came across them in the game. I comment on the BYF delayed unvote when I noticed it...I came to Greys comments on it afterwards. Your accusation is wrong.

[havingfitz]

Fitz, can I have a definitive reads list from you?

Given. More detail in the morning.

[TwoFace]

Welcome to my world.

Oh you knew what you were getting yourself into, yet still decided to join...

Why would somebody who's "just looking for a friendly game of mafia" join a game with somebody they always fight with?

[TwoFace]

And I noticed that after I call out your first wall post as iioa you quickly abandoned the format.

[MortFeld]

Been leaning town on Mort but not caring for his multiple excuse posts the last page or two.

Go f**k yourself

[TwoFace]

Go f**k yourself

[TwoFace]

Like what is he even talking about. What multiple excuse post?

[MortFeld]

Been leaning town on Mort but not caring for his multiple excuse posts the last page or two.

Go f**k yourself

Beyond being annoyed by this it's terrible. You're shading a townread for no reason. Do you think my excuse posts are scum indicative? Then why are you townreading me? And if not, why are you shading me?

I'm getting used to playing while working a new job and I'm in 3 games at once. Lay off.

Pedit: I have posted a couple times about work I think? Idk. I can't devote as much time to Mafia as I need to but I'm doing my best.

[BigYoshiFan]

Fitz, can I have a definitive reads list from you?

Given. More detail in the morning.

I'll hold you to that.

[BigYoshiFan]

Been leaning town on Mort but not caring for his multiple excuse posts the last page or two.

Go f**k yourself

Beyond being annoyed by this it's terrible. You're shading a townread for no reason. Do you think my excuse posts are scum indicative? Then why are you townreading me? And if not, why are you shading me?

I'm getting used to playing while working a new job and I'm in 3 games at once. Lay off.

Pedit: I have posted a couple times about work I think? Idk. I can't devote as much time to Mafia as I need to but I'm doing my best.

I never would've guessed you were in 3 games and had a new job; you're doing just fine.

[TwoFace]

I'm just posting this to show the read through was in work

Wow look how townie you are...

[BigYoshiFan]

And I noticed that after I call out your first wall post as iioa you quickly abandoned the format.

Is that scummy or...

[TwoFace]

Doesn't like mort making excuses yet...

Late...going to bed.

[TwoFace]

And I noticed that after I call out your first wall post as iioa you quickly abandoned the format.

Is that scummy or...

Yeah that one is because he's deviated from something he always does. Most likely to appease me since he knows he has to kiss my ass