Mini 1906 - It's An Owners Market Blitz (Game Over)

[Elena Fisher]

And you think it's Soc or Gamma? One of these has been a leading wagon for the whole game and one game from thin air does that not worry you?

[Infinity 324]

A wagon that has been a leading wagon the entire game but never got to lynch is a great place to find scum.

[Elena Fisher]

On the wagon I agree the person getting wagoned? Not so much

[Gamma Emerald]

A wagon that has been a leading wagon the entire game but never got to lynch is a great place to find scum.

Maybe it is. Let's note you are a major part of

why

I've been a leading wagon so much.

[Infinity 324]

On the wagon I agree the person getting wagoned? Not so much

Yes, the person getting wagoned.

Scum like to distance to get towncred but just enough so that they don't get lynched.

A wagon that has been a leading wagon the entire game but never got to lynch is a great place to find scum.

Maybe it is. Let's note you are a major part of

why

I've been a leading wagon so much.

...and?

[Gamma Emerald]

And what makes you Town instead of scum who has been keeping pressure on me so you can use me always being a wagon as a case against me?

[Infinity 324]

If you were town, scum would've lynched you already. If I was scum trying to lynch you, I would probably have succeeded with enough town support and maybe my buddies as well.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why do you think I would have been lynched? Given that lynches can't happen until the deadline run out in the first few days, what makes you think I couldn't have recovered from L-0?

[Infinity 324]

Because you were the biggest wagon so close to deadline. It would've been easy for scum to jump on/stay on your wagon.

[Gamma Emerald]

Tywin and Vecna had noted the wagon on me, and scum couldn't kill both night 1. One would have been left to prosecute my wagon.

[Regfan]

Lynch Vote Count 2.2

Socrates (4):

Tywin Lannister, Momo, RedCoyote, Prism

Gamma Emerald (4):

Infinity 324, Desperado, Gerryoat, Socrates

Momo (2):

Gamma Emerald, Elena Fisher

RedCoyote (1):

Albert B. Rampage

Not Voting (0):

Day Ends in (expired on 2017-05-11 21:00:00)

Desperado has been prodded

[Infinity 324]

Tywin and Vecna had noted the wagon on me, and scum couldn't kill both night 1. One would have been left to prosecute my wagon.

So what? Scum doesn't have to sheep them. They could've sheeted me or gerry instead, most people townread us.

[Gamma Emerald]

Being on my wagon when I was lynched would put a definite target on their back.

[Infinity 324]

It would put more of a target on the main pushers of the wagon, really.

[Gamma Emerald]

It would put more of a target on the main pushers of the wagon, really.

Why do you say this? Wouldn't the logical route be to push the ones who were on with no/poor reasoning, or something along those lines?

[Infinity 324]

This is a dumb argument

My point is that scum could probably justify joining multiple different wagons, and they probably would've joined the town wagon most likely to go to a lynch. For a large part of d1, that was your wagon (if you're in fact town).

[Gamma Emerald]

And Tywin/Vecna would have pushed the people on my wagon. I

just love

how as I begin to corner your logic you call the argument dumb.

[Infinity 324]

Has tywin pushed the people who were on your wagon yesterday?

I find it pretty likely scum would've already been inn your wagon before day end to help secure the "town" lynch.

It is a dumb argument since we're going in circles pretty much.

I just love how you're throwing shade at me when you haven't even considered me as a scumread before.

[Gamma Emerald]

Tywin hasn't pushed the people on my wagon since Socrates was the focus of today.
Imo we should use the rest of the day to discuss people other than Socrates.
I showed suspicion of you in630.
Infinity, say you lynch me and I flip town. Who would you suspect?

[Infinity 324]

You can push multiple people you know...it's possible scum would be scared of joining your wagon but I think it's more likely they would've gone for the sure mislynch.

Why are you just starting to suspect me recently? Your read progression makes little sense.

If you were town I'd suspect RC and socrates probably.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd like to know why RC, since I've seen many scum reads on him but little reasoning.

[Gamma Emerald]

As for suspecting you, it was a small thought until you talked about finding Scum in the leading wagon that never got lynched.

[Infinity 324]

Because his ISO is full of "I like this, I like that", and other empty statements like that. No real scumhunting.

Actually he's probably an even bigger suspect if you're scum because of the way you guys are soft defending each other.

PEdit: but why does that make you suspect me?

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You're reads don't develop naturally, it feels like you're saying "oh this is something that I can say looks suspicious" and going with that.

[Tywin Lannister]

And you think it's Soc or Gamma? One of these has been a leading wagon for the whole game and one game from thin air does that not worry you?

Of course it does. That's why gamma isn't scum.

Socrates has been saved way too much by scum
He's not town. Gamma was saved by flipped town, not scum.

[Desperado]

gamma being saved by vecna, if you can even call it that, is pretty much what infinity is getting at