Mini Normal 1908 - In The Web (Game Over)

[TwoFace]

I have reasons to think the likelihood of a watcher in this setup is very small percentage based on historical data

[Gamma Emerald]

Alright
What happened to not voting claimed PRs D1?

[TwoFace]

@fitz

Spoiler:

Your play in this game (and others) goes beyond unacceptable.

why is my play acceptable? because I don't want to play with you?

My play has been find until you replaced into this game. I asked the mod to reject your replacement and was told no. I am not going to be forced out of this game because you decided to join to intentioanlly troll me.

YOUR replacement in this game was completely unacceptable.

In this game alone you have had major issues with four players

This is an outright lie. I have only had an issue with one player. YOU. I was here first. GTFO and the issues are resolved.

you weren't quite as bad as you have been in this "new improved" version of you.

Interesting that before you replaced into this game I wasn't bad at all. After you replaced in I became bad. What does that mean?

YOU have pissed me off by joining this game and my only options are to lynch you or replace out and since I was here first I am not replacing out. The fact that you say you were looking for a "friendly" game of mafia is clearly bullshit because you know that you and I butt heads every game we have ever played so there was no ideas in your head of a "friendly" game when you chose to join.

You are obviously socially challenged.

Go f yourself. I do not appreciate this kind of insult. The fact is in real life I am completely different than I am when i play mafia.

And to say you hate someone on this website who is just trying to play a game is psychotic. Someone who your primary objections to are related to post formatting!?

that is a 2nd insult which is completely unnecessary, and your post formatting isn't the only issue I have with you actually and I gave a bunch of reasons already. glad to see you are actually reading...

I will not avoid playing in games you are in

Actually yes you will. This is an official request to please avoid me in the future. If you refuse I will have to escalate the matter. There is no reason why you can't act like a responsible person and agree to my request.

[TwoFace]

Alright
What happened to not voting claimed PRs D1?

When I have information that suggest the claim is probably fake, that doesn't apply

[havingfitz]

Alright
What happened to not voting claimed PRs D1?

When I have information that suggest the claim is probably fake, that doesn't apply

Aka confbias against someone you have a personal problem with. Same old same old.

Can't find a double voter and watcher in the same game? Must be a fakeclaim then

Does your historical research show that PR make up is exactly the same in all games with a double voter? They're all exactly the same?! Wow!

Or...just more of you trying to get rid of the slot you weren't even scum reading before I replaced in instead of your actual scum reads. I see.

[TwoFace]

As for this game...I'm not scum. I can't defend anything Titus did but those scum reading her are wrong (or scum). Assuming someone else doesn't lay a vote on me in the meantime...I'll give a little more details on my reads shortly as promised.

See this post is bad for multiple reasons. (The spoiler also)

1. Nobody asked you to defend her actions yet I think it's the second time you've said something similar
2. Why instead of making a post towards me, didn't you take that time to explain your reads? If my behavior is bad, fueling thst fire by giving me more things to get mad about makes your behavior equally bad.
3. Why do you even need to explain your reads in general? If somebody asks for an explanation give it but if nobody is asking you should just be scum hunting and pushing your scum reads.
4. You have yet to do any scum hinting or pushing scum reads. If you are town you should show it by acting like it.

[TwoFace]

Alright
What happened to not voting claimed PRs D1?

When I have information that suggest the claim is probably fake, that doesn't apply

Aka confbias against someone you have a personal problem with. Same old same old.

Can't find a double voter and watcher in the same game? Must be a fakeclaim then

Does your historical research show that PR make up is exactly the same in all games with a double voter? They're all exactly the same?! Wow!

Or...just more of you trying to get rid of the slot you weren't even scum reading before I replaced in instead of your actual scum reads. I see.

Figures you think it's conf bias.

Double voter/watcher isn't what I'm checking for but nice try.

The historical data shows that watcher appeared once in 10+ games with the information I have at my disposal and another role or variant of it pretty much every other time.

[TwoFace]

My reasons for not believing his claim has absolutely nothing to do with my personal dislike of him. I don't game throw

[TwoFace]

VOTE: wheme

second

VOTE: wheme

Just going on record that I'm fairly sure the claim is fake so I'll just vote my other scum read and try to ignore fitz.

@fitz regardless of your alignment you've crossed the line already with those 2 recent insults. I'm going to ask you keep my name out of your posts unles it has something to do with the game. Any more discussion about my attitude, behavior, past games, etc should not be posted anymore. Please respect my wishes and I'll try to do the same.

Thanks

[havingfitz]

As for this game...I'm not scum. I can't defend anything Titus did but those scum reading her are wrong (or scum). Assuming someone else doesn't lay a vote on me in the meantime...I'll give a little more details on my reads shortly as promised.

See this post is bad for multiple reasons. (The spoiler also)

1. Nobody asked you to defend her actions yet I think it's the second time you've said something similar
2. Why instead of making a post towards me, didn't you take that time to explain your reads? If my behavior is bad, fueling thst fire by giving me more things to get mad about makes your behavior equally bad.
3. Why do you even need to explain your reads in general? If somebody asks for an explanation give it but if nobody is asking you should just be scum hunting and pushing your scum reads.
4. You have yet to do any scum hinting or pushing scum reads. If you are town you should show it by acting like it.

1. I might say it a third time. I'm not keeping track.
2. So you can post with impunity against me and I have to ignore it?
3. If you don't care about reads...why make comment 2???
4. Well...I just finished my catch up last night. The joy that is you is taking up time. After I decide where my vote is going maybe I'll try to work in some sub-2F standard scum hunting.

[MortFeld]

1059 contains a misrep

[TwoFace]

For the sake of the game I'll just not respond to that. If anyone else wants me to respond I will but eliminating all discussion between us is probably least toxic.

[havingfitz]

Please respect my wishes and I'll try to do the same.

Thanks

I'll give this a go.

[havingfitz]

1059 contains a misrep

Lol.....ok. What? Considering I meant everything I said.

[MortFeld]

1059 contains a misrep

Lol.....ok. What? Considering I meant everything I said.

I'll go into it later. Might not have been intentional but it's a misrep

[havingfitz]

W/e. If there's a misrep I'll be fine owning up to it.

[TwoFace]

I will say that question 3 is an answer I'd actually like answered though
I'll ignore #4

[havingfitz]

3. The reads I listed are where my head was at after finishing my catch up. I need to resolve for myself those gut reads with actual explanation/details because I don't think anyone is going to accept/adopt them without. And inconsequentially, while he's a scumread, BYF was asking for them as well.

[TwoFace]

Anyone familiar with Titus know if she crumbs?

[TwoFace]

Thanks fitz. I find it odd you are willing to explain stuff so easily

[havingfitz]

Thanks fitz. I find it odd you are willing to explain stuff so easily

Is that shade?

I'm playing nice.

[TwoFace]

Not a shade. I earlier said in my past history with you, you refuse to explain things so I just find your attitude change odd.

[havingfitz]

you refuse to explain things

Blanket statements are rarely accurate. Have I ever failed to explain something? Probably. Do I always? Not by a long shot.

[Hikari Link]

Hey, guys, sorry for my general absence from this game. I've just been pretty busy and catching up here has been difficult. Mostly just been skimming recently.

Looking at the Wiki, it seems like the Watcher is generally considered a pretty cheap role as town, but a pretty acceptable role as scum, so I suppose maybe their is something to TwoFace's concerns regarding a fake claim. Of course, he also said that a Mafia Double Voter is pretty uncommon. It could be completely possible that the mod has gone with a setup that's balanced, but full of relatively unused roles. So if TwoFace ever flips scum or havingfitz flips town, we may want to start looking at the other.

For now, I say we let fitz live and see if he can bring us actionable information. Honestly, I kinda just want this day to end so we can get a flip and stop poking around in the dark. Unless somebody has a better idea right now, I say we go with WhemeStar.

UNVOTE: havingfitz
VOTE: WhemeStar

[TwoFace]

Wheme has done nothing since replacing in. His predecessor was scummy.

Can we please lynch him? If fitz is lying we'll know soon enough

P.edit. Thank you