Mini Normal 1908 - In The Web (Game Over)

[ThinkBig]

Official Vote Count

WhemeStar

(3): TwoFace, TwoFace, Hikari Link

Gamma Emerald

(2): MortFeld, Tarkus

havingfitz

(1): Ircher

Ircher

(1): WhemeStar

Hikari Link

(1): ChannelDelibird

Not Voting

(6): havingfitz, BigYoshiFan, MMM, RayFrost, MarioManiac4, Gamma Emerald

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-05-16 18:21:03)

Mod Notes

-Keep it civil and keep it fun. Please don't make us force replace you.

[TwoFace]

The mod did make a post somewhere that implied trickery so that's why I unvoted fitz. Still don't believe him though

[Hikari Link]

That's fair. I think it would be really cool if the setup was filled with wacky PRs though. Things like Cop, Doc, and Roleblocker are old hat, even for me; and I haven't played for 6 years.

[Gamma Emerald]

My first Mini Normal had all the usual Town roles put in a JOAT and had a bodyguard, watcher, and BP as the other power.

[MarioManiac4]

Titus Evaluation

1. 38 --> Votes Mort cuz she doesn't like his responses -->

I disagree greatly with the assessment. His reads look fine imo and show a town thought process. It seems more like Titus is simpl trying to find something she can attack herself -- how ironic!

2. 171 --> Elaborates on Mort read; mainly states that Mort's stuff lacks depth and asks too many questions -->

Honestly, I still feel like Titus is trying to find things to attack; Titus made the original read about 1 1/2 pages into the game. So, w/ RVS et cetera, there isn't going to be a lot to analyze so questions won't have a lot of depth. While the # of Qs Mort asked was kinda high, I don't necessarily see it as scum-motivated.

3. 177 --> Admits reasoning was bad cuz trying to get things going -->

And this feels like Titus is distancing from her read. Had she said this way earlier, I might buy it, but this seems to be Titus thinking "Oops! I better try to play that read off as non-serious". I don't buy it at all.

4. 178 --> Mort/Yoshi pinged her as partners -->

This early in the game? I mean, 68 kinda pinged me as Titus / MMM being possible partners, but by no means did I see a solid association between the two. Unless Titus elaborates later, this association read feels superficial and an attempt to appear to have reads while simultaneously casting shade at another player.

5. 182 --> Transcend is weak town -->

I would like to note that this happened after Transcend said that town!Titus pretty much always defends him at this point in the game. Titus is obviously trying to keep her options open.

6. 387 --> Asks how Tarkus can see things as her on Mort despite not understanding Titus's posts -->

Different perspective perhaps? Feels like another shade-throwing attempt. Not to mention that Titus hasn't been too specific in her read, so it's pretty difficult to understand when one quotes zero evidence.

7. 408 --> Says town!Trans actually pressures people -->

What suggests he isn't? Also, I honestly don't see the difference between Transcend here and Transcend in 1900. Again, I think this is scum Titus keeping her options open.

So that is my not meta-based case on Titus.

VOTE: Ircher

I really don't like this post. It's like he's trying to interpret Titus' posts in the worst way possible.

Let's implement a post restriction; TwoFace and havingfitz may not talk to or about each other unless it's strictly related to scumhunting.

[ThinkBig]

Let's implement a post restriction; TwoFace and havingfitz may not talk to or about each other unless it's strictly related to scumhunting

I can support this 110%!

[TwoFace]

Let's implement a post restriction; TwoFace and havingfitz may not talk to or about each other unless it's strictly related to scumhunting

I mean I basically said that already. Why are you trying to take credit for my ideas?

FOS Mario

[WhemeStar]

Sup guys unvote me I claim vanilla townie

[WhemeStar]

Hey guys Ircher is scum let me try to explain this

[WhemeStar]

Titus Evaluation

1. 38 --> Votes Mort cuz she doesn't like his responses -->

I disagree greatly with the assessment. His reads look fine imo and show a town thought process. It seems more like Titus is simpl trying to find something she can attack herself -- how ironic!

2. 171 --> Elaborates on Mort read; mainly states that Mort's stuff lacks depth and asks too many questions -->

Honestly, I still feel like Titus is trying to find things to attack; Titus made the original read about 1 1/2 pages into the game. So, w/ RVS et cetera, there isn't going to be a lot to analyze so questions won't have a lot of depth. While the # of Qs Mort asked was kinda high, I don't necessarily see it as scum-motivated.

3. 177 --> Admits reasoning was bad cuz trying to get things going -->

And this feels like Titus is distancing from her read. Had she said this way earlier, I might buy it, but this seems to be Titus thinking "Oops! I better try to play that read off as non-serious". I don't buy it at all.

4. 178 --> Mort/Yoshi pinged her as partners -->

This early in the game? I mean, 68 kinda pinged me as Titus / MMM being possible partners, but by no means did I see a solid association between the two. Unless Titus elaborates later, this association read feels superficial and an attempt to appear to have reads while simultaneously casting shade at another player.

5. 182 --> Transcend is weak town -->

I would like to note that this happened after Transcend said that town!Titus pretty much always defends him at this point in the game. Titus is obviously trying to keep her options open.

6. 387 --> Asks how Tarkus can see things as her on Mort despite not understanding Titus's posts -->

Different perspective perhaps? Feels like another shade-throwing attempt. Not to mention that Titus hasn't been too specific in her read, so it's pretty difficult to understand when one quotes zero evidence.

7. 408 --> Says town!Trans actually pressures people -->

What suggests he isn't? Also, I honestly don't see the difference between Transcend here and Transcend in 1900. Again, I think this is scum Titus keeping her options open.

So that is my not meta-based case on Titus.

This post is scummy IMO

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: WhemeStar

[Gamma Emerald]

Why did you switch MM4?

[MarioManiac4]

Why did you switch MM4?

I cannot see the thought process of
>claiming
>saying "I'm going to explain this scumread"
>proceeds to not explain scumread

[MarioManiac4]

*as town

[Gamma Emerald]

It's a Not_Mafia level explanation, but it's there.

[MarioManiac4]

I hate to use an overused wiki tell but it feels like he's taking refuge in audacity
he's doing nothing but the most random things that he knows won't help town

pedit: it's not really even an explanation
it's just "this post is scummy"

[Gamma Emerald]

I think scum would actually try to avoid doing that type of attention drawing move

[WhemeStar]

I'm bad at explaining
I don't care about claiming my role or not

[MarioManiac4]

I think scum would actually try to avoid doing that type of attention drawing move

I don't think so
It doesn't help town whatsoever and that sort of thinking makes it beneficial for scum

[MarioManiac4]

???
why do you just claim vt tho
like wat

[Gamma Emerald]

I think scum would actually try to avoid doing that type of attention drawing move

I don't think so
It doesn't help town whatsoever and that sort of thinking makes it beneficial for scum

I'm not getting into a WIFOM battle over this

[MarioManiac4]

actually
VOTE: Ircher

[TwoFace]

This post is scummy IMO

Nah it really isn't.

[TwoFace]

actually
VOTE: Ircher

You're vote in wheme was the right one. Ircher is already 10xtownier cause that single post wheme called bad is better than all of wheme's posts combined. Probably better than transcend's posts also

[MarioManiac4]

actually
VOTE: Ircher

You're vote in wheme was the right one. Ircher is already 10xtownier cause that single post wheme called bad is better than all of wheme's posts combined. Probably better than transcend's posts also

it's probably more pro-town i'll give you that
but wheme playing somewhat randomly won't always make him scum
on the other hand, Ircher's post really feels like he is going through Titus' ISO and just picking out things he think he can push without any consideration of whether they actually come from scum