Mini Normal 1909: Girls ♥ Girls 1 ~ Endgame

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Spoiler: How to befriend a shitposter

[Firebringer]

Thats how I met your mother.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

lol oops my finger slipped

viewtopic.php?f=61&t=71638

[Firebringer]

You should wear a green tie, it would match your role pm so nicely.

[Hikari Link]

I kind of think he is town too.
I am just not dealing with his attitude and I am not replacing out.

There's no ignore button for this game.


Alisae is probably scum.
Implosion feels more townie now than before.
Hikari is now in my scum pile.

I don't get the thing with Titus but I don't think I will.

Why am/was I in your scum pile?

[Hikari Link]

Never mind. You got asked that later.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

You should wear a green tie, it would match your role pm so nicely.

LOL

yeah I almost got in trouble for that because I UNKNOWINGLY asked if I should change my tie color to blue/red and it was multi-ball red/blue mafia teams.

[Desperado]

lmao 100 page mini normal

guess I should have asked what sort of commitment I was making first

what's crackin motherfuckers

~ You're stuck here now ~

[Hikari Link]

Actually fire can you explain the scum Hikari thing?

When me and boon we're going at it, he felt like the awkward scum that didn't know what to do in situation.
The scum who hate watching TvT but don't really want to stop it because they are scum but still make a half attempt to be peacekeeper.

I wasn't the only person that asked you guys to stop. It was obnoxious, spammy, and clearly heated. Cooler heads needed to prevail and an actual dialogue needed to occur. You guys were talking past each other, not to each other. It doesn't matter what I alignment I play (I have no meta to back this up), I don't like arguments to take a personal turn in a game. I feel like it kills the motivation of everyone in the game.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

lmao 100 page mini normal

guess I should have asked what sort of commitment I was making first

what's crackin motherfuckers

Well we're just talking a little jazz before we lynch Titus

[Desperado]

i am almost always down to lynch Titus

what's she done this time

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Fuck I don't care if this is buddying, I love this Desperado

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Buddy me with butter and serve me an endgame idc

Anywho, basically Keyser was going to write a defense of Titus, and I was going to have a jam session and actually show my work solving the game and then the day I said I was going to do it, she hammered

OH AND I CAN FUCKING SAY IT NOW

THE REASON TITUS LOL HAMMERED IS CUZ SHE KNOWS I CAN CATCH SCUM D1 IN A JAM SESSION

She got lynched in Days of Yore Mafia because near the end of D1, Nacho and I were finally able to have a night to talk and we correctly called like 8/13 slots town and both scum as null and then the scum we caught, Titus!slot, barely escaped a lynch because of deadline. We then died and she was lynched D2.

BUT THE THING IS, SHE KNOWS HOW MUCH DAMAGE IT CAN DO.

So she literally lol!hammered the night I was going to do a jam session, btw you should note this was with 7 days left to deadline so there was NO FUCKING RUSH, and I explicitly told people all the time that it was my free day to actually put work into here and lynching someone was a scum claim and they would have my vote till they die.

Hilariously anti-town play and I don't believe Titus is town at all so she's dying.

[Hikari Link]

Spoiler: Titus

@Titus: What do you mean that you don't see Nacho and implosion melding? What do you make of Nacho's post where he breaks down his reads to me?

Also, can you reiterate who you read as scum and who you think is town? I know you're still sorting, but give me the best you've got, please.

@Titus: He starts doing it here.

Hmph. Not liking the vote on me while you know I am sorting.

Second, I mean those agreements Implosion talks about. I don't see two players in sync at all. I see Nacho retreating the moment after Implosion stops pushing Tammy.

I don't see much in Nacho's wall, particularly his Tammy read. He basically says town by meta and has nuance. It rings hollow given Tammy's basic state is nuance. There's nothing someone who isn't a meta hunter can engage with.

Why do you have to be done sorting for her to put a vote on you? I'd say we're all still in the process of sorting, so should nobody be voting? Why can't he just scum read you?

I feel like in the second paragraph you're doing that thing you do where you ignore people's explanations and push a narrative of something that didn't happen and is not happening without assessing what is actually going on.

You do not have to agree on every single thing to be "in sync", and you keep pushing that bit which is not a big part of the read anyway. Nacho was joking with his vote on implosion in the first place; this is exactly what he did in Gay Mafia when Hiplop was voting me. He wasn't scum reading hiplop at the time, he was making a point about hiplop's bad scum read on me. Same thing here with implosion.

If you are town, you are misreading/misunderstanding and are ignoring the posts people have made setting that straight. If implosion is scum, it's not because of that because his early game interaction with me is very similar to the last game we played together. Here is his iso from that game. You can see him interacting with me in a very similar way as town in his first few posts: viewtopic.php?t=62686&f=53&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

If he's scum, he's just trying to mimic that interaction. (I'm leaning town at the moment; I'm just trying to point out that the interaction is null as far as I'm concerned.)

I am worried that you saw the beginning of a town group forming and are trying to break that up, which is something that I normally think is stupid, but it's something I am concerned about here.

I don't understand your problem with town read on me from nacho. And I don't understand why you're acting like it's something you can't touch or prod. You can still ask him questions. You can still ask me questions. It feels wrong that if it's something you don't trust or can't understand that you're not poking at it or trying to understand.

pedit: Not gonna lie, I know that's a fake, but still my heart dropped with sadness for a split second before I chuckled.

First, if HL knows I am sorting, it implies they know I am town, as scum don't have to sort anyone.

You can say I am misreading things but when reality conflicts with players literal text to me, I am going to have a scumread. To me, it looks like Nacho scumread implosion and backed off the moment Implosion TRed you.

It also feels Nacho decided you were town before you set foot in the thread.

It's D1 and I am open to being wrong, but replies like yours that essentially say plug your nose to our circle jerk are not helpful. I am curious about your other reads.

Wow, that's a bit of a misrepresentation of what I said. Would you have preferred the more skeptical "I know you claim you are still sorting..."? Also, scum can attempt to create a facsimile of sorting, even if they already know everything.

[Hikari Link]

Spoiler: Titus 2: The Streets

@Titus: What do you mean that you don't see Nacho and implosion melding? What do you make of Nacho's post where he breaks down his reads to me?

Also, can you reiterate who you read as scum and who you think is town? I know you're still sorting, but give me the best you've got, please.

@Titus: He starts doing it here.

Hmph. Not liking the vote on me while you know I am sorting.

Second, I mean those agreements Implosion talks about. I don't see two players in sync at all. I see Nacho retreating the moment after Implosion stops pushing Tammy.

I don't see much in Nacho's wall, particularly his Tammy read. He basically says town by meta and has nuance. It rings hollow given Tammy's basic state is nuance. There's nothing someone who isn't a meta hunter can engage with.

You've been "sorting" for an awful long time (pot calling the kettle black, admittedly). And in that time, you've dodged questions and basically been a non-entity.

Now, Gun to my head Implosion and Ari are my SRs. Could do Ali as well but I have two competing theories.

Are you taking the position townNacho's not competent enough to be able to tell between scumTammy and townTammy at this point? I just want to be clear where you stand on him, because it kinda sounds like you're shading him without reading him as scum.

VOTE: HL

Holy fuck this post is terrible.

Calling me a non-entity and dodging questions is a load of horse manure. I have been driving and sorting and asking questions. I sort based on group dynamics and how players treat each other.

The total misrepresentation of my read as Nacho isn't comptent enough to read Tammy is just terrible. He IS competent enough to read Tammy. He is also better at describing things and communicating why slots are the way they are and appearing genuine.

Can we just talk about terrible posts for a minute?

I mean, first, you certainly felt like a non-entity to me. And I don't recall you ever once answering for the misrepresentation on implosion where he said "it started with gut, then..." I mean, that seemed to be your case for quite some time, even several people pointed out that your argument didn't make sense.

Also, I never misrepresented your Nacho read. I asked you whether you were taking a position. Based on what I read, that seemed like the position you were taking. I never once said "you're scum because you don't think Tammy is competent enough to read Nacho." or anything of the sort. If I'm unclear on what a statement means, I'll repeat it back in my own words to make sure that I understand the meaning. It's a technique called mirroring and is an important component of listening.

[nancy]

Infinity 324 replaces Fro99er!

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

MAH BOI INFINITY

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

This shit is getting lit

[Infinity 324]

Hey how's it going!

[Tammy]

Yay infinity hi!

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

IT'S GOING GREAT NOW

It looks like we're getting the band back together >_>

Don't tell Fire but if we get mastina and Heartless and we got a full blown reunion

[Tammy]

i am almost always down to lynch Titus

what's she done this time

You argued against it in gay mafia.

I know you said almost always, but.

[Hikari Link]

Ok, I am at the bottom of 55.

Pretty sure HL is scum based on the lack of substantive interaction they have with Fire/Boon but calling it T v T.

You have to have substantive interaction with people to call an argument T v T? I saw what looked like a pretty genuine fight between two people.

On one hand, Boonskiies was misrepresenting the hell out of Fire and asserting repeatedly that he was town and Fire was scum, both of which are actions I tend to think are pretty scummy. But the venom was so real there that I could believe it coming from town.

On the other hand, Firebringer seemed truly offended that Boon would imply that rb would ever replace out for impure reasons and absolutely refused to take his vote off Boon as long as Boon remained in the game, even though he acknowledged Boon was probably town. Parking your vote permanently on somebody for non-game reasons is anti-town as hell. But it's such a blatant move, that it's entirely conceivable (and probable) that it came from angry town.

Of the two, Boon looked worse, since he was the one turning a clearly non-alignment fight into something about alignment. Made me worry that he might have been scum faking his anger to push a lynch, look like angry town, or throw Firebringer off balance. But after looking at the Happenings on the first page after the lynch, I saw that Boon was actually force-replaced. After so many warnings for his conduct, I feel like if he was scum faking it, he would've just reigned it in and stopped poking at it. It's only through true anger that I could see Boon losing his cool so thoroughly. And I don't see why he would be that angry as scum.

[Infinity 324]

Yeah I'm ready to break this game open.

Let's goooo

[Infinity 324]

In the first few pages nacho seems a little off but the fact that other people know him better and didn't say anything makes me think it doesn't mean anything