Mini Normal 1909: Girls ♥ Girls 1 ~ Endgame

[Aristophanes]

Ari/Fire interactions from that point in the game. I'm not saying I should be easily read from it, but to come up with "Fire and Boon are both null from it" is easy, and it kinda snapshoots it while awkwardly cropping me out of the picture.

Who was saying we were null from that?
And what would we learn from me and your interactions?

I don't know, but I just feel like it's being oddly avoided and I felt like mentioning it. Like, Boon said I was scum with you for coming in and backing you up. That's pretty much the only mention of me that came from that whole thing, where it came up for you and boon an awful lot. Even weirder is that it's one of my few active points, which should make it a larger crux for reading me.

I'm probably just being selfish here and expecting attention where I deserved none. Whatevs lol

[Aristophanes]

What's your lynchpool titus?

Ali, Ari, Implosion, Nacho, Hiraki

Bad lynchpool.

grotesque

fucking lol

Sad Fro99er left!

@Titus - I town lean read Aris (hence "low hanging fruit").

Even when he didn't give two shits to see who the hell is which slot?

Titus, did you miss the part where I was being fucking cheeky to see what you would do??
Your continued push on something so mundane is utter shit and doesn't factor in the fact that I might have played you back!
Why does it make me scum that I didn't call you out on it? What does the fact that I DID IT PURPOSELY do for this portion of your read?

[Infinity 324]

Titus might just be scum here. She's heard the mantra of "logical titus = scum titus" many times before and it hasn't bothered her. Recently, she was just lynched in a game as scum because of it, so I think it makes sense to push back on it this game if she's scum. And if you use the mantra, it points to her being scum as well. I liked her recognizing what I felt was off about nacho early on but I think she could be in tune to that as scum as well. I also liked that she was pushing on implo by herself when no one else was paying attention, but I could see her doing that for towncred. The main thing that bothers me is how much I forgot her posts from the push on the implo read until page 43 (where I am in my catchup). I don't usually forget town!titus posts, if anything they're kind of like gin's this game where she has a plan to catch scum that's not all explicit but you can tell it's there. Scum!titus can appear towny at times but overall there's just a lot less to it. I think it may be a motivation thing. The only game where I've seen her as scum make waves in a sense was rogue one, but she was just tunneling me all game. Not something that requires a ton of effort.

[Aristophanes]

Like, Titus, you missing this and trying to capitalize on an easy Ari lynch is legit scummy shit! I hope you realize this!
And you did it knowing I had refuted your point but you ignored it, and knowing I was unlikely to be able to make a defense due to being behind!

You're going further into my scumpool as I go. You get the occasional decently town posts, but the rest are null or utter shit like this.

Ninja'd
<3 U Infinity!!!

[Tammy]

That was the part of my suspicion as well. She pushes on implosion early game but it's only the early game she pushes about. (Yes, I expect Titus to completely disregard my pointing out that it was how Implosion and I always interacted and the iso for proof as well as misread and refuse to rethink the nacho read point.) What I don't expect is for her not to do any further scum hunting on that player. Even if it's just pointing out that he's just lurking.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

VOTE TITUS

[Infinity 324]

@anyone scumreading ari: I'm pretty sure me, gin, nacho, and tammy all have ari as lock town. If you believe one of us is town, trust us that ari is town. And all 4 of us can't be the scumteam, so ari should be an IC. No questions asked.

That includes you, SAD.

PEdit: VOTE: titus

still scumread hikari more but fine

[Infinity 324]

Does anyone in {gin,

alisae

desp, nacho, tammy, ari} scumread each other? If so you should work that out since I'm pretty sure you're all town. If not we win if we add 1 more person to the townbloc.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Yeah for myself and others Alisae/Desp has been a shaky slot

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Otherwise, all four of us like each other pretty much

[Infinity 324]

How is this not completely out of range of alisae's scumgame

[Infinity 324]

Maybe but there's just so much more initiative and overall genuine scumhunting here than I've seen from scum!alisae. As scum he asks questions to look like he's scumhunting and it's obvious. Here he genuinely wants to know the answers.

Like I just don't see scum!alisae faking 949 to give one example.

[Infinity 324]

Idk man. I don't like pre-flip associations but I'm not comfortable scumreading titus and titus's top scumread when she's known not to bus.

Who is scum other than titus, gin?

[Aristophanes]

If anyone hammers before the 7th real life day of day 1 I'm death tunneling you.

We weren't even a week into this game at this point!?
And people think I'm lurking, not just really behind!?!?

It's like people have never played with me before or something...

[Aristophanes]

Maybe but there's just so much more initiative and overall genuine scumhunting here than I've seen from scum!alisae. As scum he asks questions to look like he's scumhunting and it's obvious. Here he genuinely wants to know the answers.

Like I just don't see scum!alisae faking 949 to give one example.

I don't know if I mentioned, but I do agree with this very strongly.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

ya know, the double flake of what is now Leon's slot is interesting

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

personal theory keeping to myself but

Leon, Fire, Titus, Hikari is what I find to be a healthy pool

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Of course, Titus dies today, like no matter what.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

But tomorrow, pretty much Leon, Fire, or Hikari will die and that will be that

[Aristophanes]

I could probably get behind this. They're the most likely to be scum from my reading thus far.

[Infinity 324]

Maybe but there's just so much more initiative and overall genuine scumhunting here than I've seen from scum!alisae. As scum he asks questions to look like he's scumhunting and it's obvious. Here he genuinely wants to know the answers.

Like I just don't see scum!alisae faking 949 to give one example.

I don't know if I mentioned, but I do agree with this very strongly.

personal theory keeping to myself but

Leon, Fire, Titus, Hikari is what I find to be a healthy pool

Awesome. Do I even need to catch up now?

jkjk but I honestly think lynching that pool is decently likely to win us the game

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

ALSO HAPPY SOON TO BE MOTHER'S DAY IF WE GOT ANY IN THE GAME!

[Tammy]

I have a cat does that count?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Infinity - Have you been in a game where Titus has been town and not reacted to votes on her by her biggest suspects?

I was suspicious of titus earlier on then started wavering some, but when Nacho naked voted her and then Implosion just sheeped nacho and didn't even try to sort Titus beyond trying to interact, Titus didn't respond at all. I think I cared more about Implosion's vote there than Titus did and it just read really wrong that Titus didn't care or notice that her two biggest scum reads were voting her for no reason stated at all.

Ohh off memory this is one of the things (well similar but a little before those events) I disliked about Titus and I tried to interact with her about. Her lynch pool was basically the people on her wagon and when I asked her who she thought was voting her genuinely and who was voting her opportunistically/scummy she basically shrugged me off and said she can't do wagon analysis pre-flips even though that wasn't even what I was asking of her.

I am also noticing Ari's catchups but I kinda wanna let him do his thing and then look at it on a whole. The thing is I just don't know how much Ari can fake. He's a fairly competent player from what I've seen, but I think I ~maybe~ am finally seeing what Nacho meant when he said this is beyond Ari's scum range, esp like the scumreading a lynched person part.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

SAD my darling