Mini Normal 1908 - In The Web (Game Over)

MortFeld · Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Mon May 15, 2017 7:06 pm

In post 1924, Kelvin Smith wrote: Personally, I think the Ircher wagon is much more likely to be scum-driven than the Wheme wagon.

This doesn't make Wheme scum. Or, frankly, Ircher town.

MortFeld · Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Mon May 15, 2017 7:09 pm

I'm like, kinda frustrated because the seemingly inevitable lynch is a townread and a few of the town leaders is campaigning against a lynch I think might actually be scum. But I'm not too motivated to start yelling at people to vote Ircher because... honestly idk if he's scum and I haven't even responded to his response to my 'case' yet. People TR GE for... some reason, and Ray Frost TRs Ircher because... GE was pushing Ircher?? Idk. I feel like town is actively trying to not lynch scum today, so I feel like, what can I even do

Kelvin Smith · Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Mon May 15, 2017 7:28 pm

In post 1925, MortFeld wrote:
In post 1924, Kelvin Smith wrote: Personally, I think the Ircher wagon is much more likely to be scum-driven than the Wheme wagon.
This doesn't make Wheme scum. Or, frankly, Ircher town.

If it's a scum-driven wagon, then I'd say he's more likely to be town.

In post 1926, MortFeld wrote:I'm like, kinda frustrated because the seemingly inevitable lynch is a townread and a few of the town leaders is campaigning against a lynch I think might actually be scum. But I'm not too motivated to start yelling at people to vote Ircher because... honestly idk if he's scum and I haven't even responded to his response to my 'case' yet. People TR GE for... some reason, and Ray Frost TRs Ircher because... GE was pushing Ircher?? Idk. I feel like town is actively trying to not lynch scum today, so I feel like, what can I even do

That's because there are a lot of factors at play here and "might actually be scum" isn't good enough. Townread or not, I really think you should consider the possibility that Wheme is scum and consider the consequences of an Ircher wagon if Ircher is town. It's about risk and reward right now, I feel. And the risk of an Ircher wagon far outweigh the chance of reward, in my eye.

XnadrojX · Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Mon May 15, 2017 9:33 pm

In post 1842, ThinkBig wrote:havingfitz is V/LA until next Tuesday
Prodding TwoFace, havingfitz, and Tarkus

havingfitz is unprodded as hes in V/LA. Otherwise, in case you miseed this, TwoFacw and Tarkus should respond soon

TwoFace · Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Mon May 15, 2017 11:38 pm

Sorry guys. Busy weekend and just never got around to posting.

TwoFace · Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 12:08 am

So almost 400 pages while I was gone. Anything worthwhile that I missed?

TwoFace · Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 12:13 am

In post 1926, MortFeld wrote:I'm like, kinda frustrated because the seemingly inevitable lynch is a townread and a few of the town leaders is campaigning against a lynch I think might actually be scum. But I'm not too motivated to start yelling at people to vote Ircher because... honestly idk if he's scum and I haven't even responded to his response to my 'case' yet. People TR GE for... some reason, and Ray Frost TRs Ircher because... GE was pushing Ircher?? Idk. I feel like town is actively trying to not lynch scum today, so I feel like, what can I even do

My issue with anyone town reading wheme is yo literally have nothing game related to use for town reading him. He has done nothing to help find scum, he's provided no reasons for his scum reads, he's basically done jack squat.

Clearly that could have changed over the weekend but 1. I seriously doubt it and 2. It's a little too late for that.

If we keep him under the assumption that "maybe" he's town, he's still a liability. He's somebody that we can't sort and has no interest in actually helping town win.

I'd dare say that if he is town he is currently playing against his win condition.

RayFrost · Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 12:14 am

I posted things.

RayFrost · Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 12:15 am

My posting of things starts here

TwoFace · Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 12:25 am

TwoFace · Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 1:33 am

If somebody has a better lynch candidate with a really good case I'm all ears.

ThinkBig · Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 1:42 am

Official Vote Count

WhemeStar

(5): TwoFace, TwoFace, PenguinPower, MMM, Kelvin Smith

Ircher

(4): MortFeld, Gamma Emerald, WhemeStar, MarioManiac4

PenguinPower

(2): Ircher, BigYoshiFan

Gamma Emerald

(2): Tarkus, RayFrost

Not Voting

(1): havingfitz

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-05-16 18:21:03)

V/LA Notices/Mod Notes:

ThinkBig, the co-moderator, is V/LA over weekends.
havingfitz is V/LA until next Tuesday
There are less than 10 hours remaining in the day phase. I will NOT be extending the deadline.

TwoFace · Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 2:14 am

Wheme what's the case on ircher?

RayFrost · Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 2:17 am

Did you just sweep my entire presence in this game under the rug

TwoFace · Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 2:19 am

RayFrost · Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 2:28 am

Then give me an actual response

TwoFace · Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 2:32 am

can't respond until I have time to read it. Can't do that while driving to work and I am not sure I will be able to read it before deadline. If you have something you feel I must read ASAP, either quote it or bullets but I can't read the 400 posts I missed this morning.

RayFrost · Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 2:37 am

The one post I linked would be enough if you've got time. I included a summary in the last paragraph.

WhemeStar · Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 2:44 am

Ircher has been just switching his vote to follow the biggest wagon all game long and doesnt give good reasons for voting them either.

TwoFace · Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 2:45 am

ok about to head to a meeting, i'll check it out after that.

p.edit - but you really haven't given good reasons for any of your votes so that can't be considered scummy to you now can it?

WhemeStar · Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 2:46 am

Are you saying Ircher and I play the same? Ircher has been giving reasons, I see them as being fake. I'm bad at voicing my reasons but I am trying

TwoFace · Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 2:47 am

I mean ircher did give good reasons for his original vote on Titus. I don't really remember PP being a big wagon and that is where his vote is now.

which big wagons were ircher joining without good reasons?

p.edit - No I am saying that one of the reasons YOU gave is something YOU are guilty of so if YOU are doing it, YOU can't use that as a reason to scum read somebody.

WhemeStar · Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 2:49 am

PP had a bigger wagon than me at one point
Ircher first hopped on gammas warp which was the biggest wagon, and then switched to Titus and gave 999 as his case?

WhemeStar · Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 2:50 am

If 999 is his case it feels more like Ircher is just going through Titus ISO to justify anything that seems scummy to make a case on her.

TwoFace · Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Tue May 16, 2017 2:58 am

In post 1948, WhemeStar wrote:If 999 is his case it feels more like Ircher is just going through Titus ISO to justify anything that seems scummy to make a case on her.

fine that is your opinion, but
1. I found myself agreeing with that post
2. it's better than anything you have managed to put together.

I have no interest in lynching ircher today over you.