Mini 1910: Railgun Mafia [Game Over]

[MathBlade]

1) Read first post and mechanics.
2) Read last five pages (approximate) as people demand shit from a replacement immediately. If no justification given after asking fuck them. << I am here.
3) Read any hoods I have. None right now.
4) Read my ISO.
5) Read the thread and specifically focus on areas that get called out.

[Alisae]

VOTE COUNT 2 . 52

• DanelerH
  --- 4 ( Wisdom, Accountant, Garrybote, Edosurist )
  L- 2
  
  
  Garrybote
  -- 2 ( DanelerH, Gamma Emerald )
  L- 4
  
  
  Wisdom
  ----- 1 ( Torque )
  L- 5
  
  
  Edosurist
  -- 1 ( Fro99er )
  L- 5
  
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  - 3 ( Aeronaut, Cabd, MathBlade )

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to Lynch
Deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-04 11:11:00)

[Wisdom]

so gamma
youre still voting gerry

[Gamma Emerald]

OhUNVOTE:

[Alisae]

I decided to let Aeronaut keep his slot since he contacted me and stuff.

[Aeronaut]

Go me !!!

[Gamma Emerald]

zzz

[Aeronaut]

I'm just being a lazy piece of shit, but really I'm also waiting for torque to answer me from like a million years ago.

[DanelerH]

@Dan: Your role states that you die N2? I would think scum would want to keep you for a mislynch target.

I'm a one-shot Lightning Rod. I'm going to be using the action tonight. It's unlikely we have another protective role, so I will most likely die.

I read through for Dan, Frog and Torque, like Frog requested.

What gave me the gut read on Dan was the combination of my earlier read on him and the way he was frustrated. I'd also be frustrated if people were inexplicably calling me scummy, but the way he's acting on it is troubling. 1253 is where he looks the worst. It's misrepresenting how the Titus mislynch happened. I'm not saying frustration can only come from town, but he's basically stopped commenting on anything other than Wisdom.
My initial vote on Dan (442) was mostly because Dan seemed to just be asking questions of other people and not offering his own scumreads. That's not really valid at this point other than he's continuing to not really give reads.

Surely only scum can do this

In order:
1253 was to vent my frustrations. I probably should've left it unposted, but it's too late to do anything about it now.
I was commenting on Wisdom because he was (and still is) my biggest scum-read (Gamma is another, but not as much as Wisdom).
I have since given my reads. Not much has changed, so there hasn't been a need to post an updated one. At the time I had switched my vote to Gerry, it was after Wisdom had been "cleared" by Gamma (reluctantly putting them both as Town), but this has since been disproven.

UNVOTE: gerryoat
VOTE: Wisdom

Third is likely not frogger though, so maybe torque?

After the Global Voyeur claim, that's unlikely. While it could've been a safe assumption that there isn't another investigative role, it still seems a like a very risky claim that scum wouldn't want to make.

[Accountant]

We could lynch edo today and then dan if he doesn't die at night

[Accountant]

wait no NK is a thing

yeah let's keep lynching dan

[Wisdom]

I'm a one-shot Lightning Rod. I'm going to be using the action tonight. It's unlikely we have another protective role, so I will most likely die.

sounds like a scum role, otherwise its negative utility

[Gamma Emerald]

That makes sense, would draw invests and other things
Actually, why would scum have that if it would guilty them

[Wisdom]

because it wouldnt guilty them
It would guilty whoever the cop targeted

[Accountant]

and he can also decide when to pop the thing

cop goes "I'm investigating X suspicious person tonight" and they use it and then laugh as the cop gets a fake guilty

I'm not saying it's 100% scum role but it's not unthinkable that this is a role assigned to scum

[MathBlade]

That seems kinda crazy. That would require scum to keep a known cop alive should one exist and sacrifice a kill for it as the kill would be redirected onto the lightning rod person as well.

However, in principle I agree with the concept as it is more than likely to work on a hidden investigative and just sow chaos. Something like a Watcher/tracker/follower/PGO mass directed works better for scum in that case not so much a cop.

[MathBlade]

At the same time there are also protown utilities to lightning rod as well (I.E. If no one listens about your scumread, redirect the kill and everything else onto said person and claim it day open. ) however I think claiming lightning rod and saying it is all going to yourself is just pretty much bad if Town as that enables scum to just roleblock or just save their powers.

[MathBlade]

there we go again
My wincon says i should eliminate scum, not explain why they are scum to them

If you're town, it's your job to help town understand why your scumreads are scum. And I'd hope a town player would acknowledge that they are capable of being wrong (as you were with Titus) and consider that just because they claim somebody is scum, doesn't definitively make them scum. There's more to scumhunting than just being the loudest person in the room. It's this kind of extremely prevalent absolutist attitude that annoys me the most about Mafia.

i consider things, you just dont see it inthread

Wisdom is Town. This is annoying as fuck but likely Town because of it.

Summary of last five pages: OMG why so many claims? Seriously I have a mantra people: Keep your pants on!

[MathBlade]

I'm not buddying him
It's a reasoned read, I think he doesn't have any scum buddies. Maybe he could be a traitor or SK but def not groupscum.

I like this. Light TR on Gamma and gerryoat.

[MathBlade]

honestly

me not knowing if game started not or yet is NAI i wouldnt know as mafia or town. so dont really see th eneed to look into it much

Matter had already been "settled" by accountant saying they accepted it:

ok i accept your answer

But Gerry felt a specific need to emphasize how honest and casual he's being about it. Basic liespotting into to psych 101.

Anyone who uses a psych class to justify their reasons needs better reasons. I have taken psych 101 in college and they said not to use the lie spotting techniques in the way you're using them so what do you make of that?

[MathBlade]

you could keep looking busy by posting NAI posts or you could scumhunt, ur choice man

Don't like this either. Accountant + Aeronaut mayhaps?

[Wisdom]

where sid the scumread on accountant come from?

[Wisdom]

did*

[MathBlade]

Alrighty, put me at L-2 knowingly with a naked vote and then leave once asked to explain. That's a

fantastic

idea.
VOTE: Edosurist

Pedit the push on Gamma.

I found something I found rather a Town tell that I would rather not go into IMHO.

[MathBlade]

Accountant's push on Gamma is shit.