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[Zachstralkita]

?? He literally rewrote my actions exactly to fit his agenda

[Dunnstral]

I see fro99er replaced mislynch

I wonder if this has any correlation with there being 500 posts in 48 hours

needless to say I'm not reading any of that except for boon's color chart


VOTE: mozamis

I wanted to give you more of a chance but looking at your iso here it's hard to imagine you as the same townie I saw earlier

[Boonskiies]

Fair enough on the point about the replacement limbo, and I just relooked at the posts, and I can see where I could have misinterpreted. I'm pretty sure there's a good amount of people scum reading Zach. I think I'd like to see mush voting Zach instead of just talking about it before I reassess that part much.

Tbh, you were one of the people on the list I did last, so I admit there could have been some of me being tired out.

[Boonskiies]

@mush ^

[Gamma Emerald]

Where
This actually feels like mozamis could be town here

[mush]

Fair enough on the point about the replacement limbo, and I just relooked at the posts, and I can see where I could have misinterpreted. I'm pretty sure there's a good amount of people scum reading Zach. I think I'd like to see mush voting Zach instead of just talking about it before I reassess that part much.

Tbh, you were one of the people on the list I did last, so I admit there could have been some of me being tired out.

am i still your second biggest scumread? it seems odd to backtrack on such a firm stance so quickly.

[Boonskiies]

Where
This actually feels like mozamis could be town here

Why do you think this? I'm curious as to why as there's a part of me that can kind of see it.

[Boonskiies]

Fair enough on the point about the replacement limbo, and I just relooked at the posts, and I can see where I could have misinterpreted. I'm pretty sure there's a good amount of people scum reading Zach. I think I'd like to see mush voting Zach instead of just talking about it before I reassess that part much.

Tbh, you were one of the people on the list I did last, so I admit there could have been some of me being tired out.

am i still your second biggest scumread? it seems odd to backtrack on such a firm stance so quickly.

I think I'd put you above Moz in that case, due to me seeing where I mixed up the contradiction, and my read of you turning into a preflip association with Zach, so I'd rather go Zach than you.

[Dunnstral]

I don't think we should vote for Zach

[Dunnstral]

Rather I think we should just ignore him for a few day phases

There's a good amount of other very VIABLE LYNCHES available to us

[Boonskiies]

Why isn't he a viable lynch? I'm generally curious as to what thoughts are behind this.

[Fro99er]

RazhBash

- So I initially thought this I was solidly town reading Razh, but like I said, I wasn't necessarily caught up, and was kind of stuck on Drum. I think I started town reading him when he stated that town reading is a viable strategy. He then went on to town read Zach. In the Waffles vs Frogger, which happened in that Firebringer game as well, I believe, as TvT. Waffles already stated his read on me earlier in the game, so I was a little taken aback from the "trying to force Sling to give a read on Boon".

I'm getting paranoid of being pocketed potentially by him.

I don't believe he's out and stated a read on me, though, so I'm in a weird spot. I feel like he's indirectly pocketing me, if that makes sense. What really ticks my tockers is him pushing Moz, yet then quotes a Fykus post, where Fykus voted Moz, stating that if Moz flips town, it is enough for him to go after Fykus. Man, that's rough, and makes me feel a little bit better about Moz. Also, he stated that he thinks the Drum wagon is entirely town driven, yet the people on it are myself, Fykus, Priscilla, and Peregrine. He just stated how he felt about Fykus, where he shouldn't be stating entirely town driven when Fykus is right there on it. This being stated, he also states town reads on Zach and Frogger, which seems like he's trying to buddy anyone he isn't setting up for a mislynch. I'll lean scum here.

Where was he trying to pocket you? Because he didn't mention you in a ctrl+f of his ISO until I tried to talk to him about you.

And when I asked him for a read on you, he didn't answer.

VOTE: rhazh

[Dunnstral]

Why isn't he a viable lynch? I'm generally curious as to what thoughts are behind this.

He's pretty lynchbaity as town and I've fallen into this trap many times

I believe he becomes more readable later in the game in general

[Boonskiies]

I stated I felt he was indirectly pocketing me. I stated that I could add Razh to my possible town lists as well, and from there it felt like he was pseudo chainsawing defending me through his actions

[Boonskiies]

Why isn't he a viable lynch? I'm generally curious as to what thoughts are behind this.

He's pretty lynchbaity as town and I've fallen into this trap many times

I believe he becomes more readable later in the game in general

Thoughts on Tywin? This goes to people who interacted with Tywin in someway. There's a reason I brought up Tywin here after Zach to you.

[Boonskiies]

There's a reason I brought up Tywin here after Zach to you.

I'll state this a bit later.

[Dunnstral]

He went from calling me probably town to naked voting me with his only reason being that I naked voted so he's probably scum I'd say

Also 1439 and 1440 look incredibly fake, why tip me off if you're town? Looks more like posturing and showing others you're doing something

[Fro99er]

I stated I felt he was indirectly pocketing me. I stated that I could add Razh to my possible town lists as well, and from there it felt like he was pseudo chainsawing defending me through his actions

Let's lynch him, since he's in your scum pile

[Fro99er]

Why isn't he a viable lynch? I'm generally curious as to what thoughts are behind this.

He's pretty lynchbaity as town and I've fallen into this trap many times

I believe he becomes more readable later in the game in general

I'm with you. I have no interest in lynching Zach today

[Boonskiies]

He went from calling me probably town to naked voting me with his only reason being that I naked voted so he's probably scum I'd say

Also 1439 and 1440 look incredibly fake, why tip me off if you're town? Looks more like posturing and showing others you're doing something

There's a reason I brought up Tywin here after Zach to you.

I'll state this a bit later.

[Fro99er]

Boon, vote rhazh

[Boonskiies]

I stated I felt he was indirectly pocketing me. I stated that I could add Razh to my possible town lists as well, and from there it felt like he was pseudo chainsawing defending me through his actions

Let's lynch him, since he's in your scum pile

Yeah, I'll vote Razh a bit later. I'm still trying to figure out mush.

[Boonskiies]

I'm happy with Dunn's responses for now, too.

[Tywin Lannister]

He went from calling me probably town to naked voting me with his only reason being that I naked voted so he's probably scum I'd say

Also 1439 and 1440 look incredibly fake, why tip me off if you're town? Looks more like posturing and showing others you're doing something

Lol, you naked voted so I naked voted you back. Learn not to do scummy fucking shit like naked voting. Pretty simple.

Second, NO CC. Read it and weep scum.

Third, I can change my reads anytime I want. I'm not some shitter that keeps the same read all game. You do scummy shit and I'll SR you. Pretty simple. Act town and maybe I'll TR you.

Doesn't matter. I won't survive long, but I can see a bunch of people having no idea how to scum read people, no idea what is scummy and what isnt, no idea how to read anyone at all based on their meta... yeah, I have no faith in you guys. You'll lynch anyone decent and scum will NK the rest. Then the shitters will argue amongst themselves which one is scum, while leaving the actual scum to laugh at them. Par for the course.

Point is, the quality of players on MS dropped drastically over the years. Like really dropped. None of you even know what to define as scummy or not. It's really pathetic. Read the wiki and learn. There are guides for you guys out there. Good players wrote them years ago.

What I miss the most is the flash video that used to be up on the main page. When did they get rid of that? There was a flash tutorial too. It taught people how to play at least to a basic level. Nowadays, you're all from off-site, so bad habits galore.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd like to open with a bit of theory discussion.

one scum down.

vote gamma

This is actually an okay vote. Compared to the other ones I'd seen this one shows clear principle (lynch setup speccers as they are likely scum)

yeah early 180 from me. I'm much prefering Gamma, who is questioning, explaining himself and seems quite open, to most of the people on his wagon, who don't seem any of those things.

BUt then his read evolves, and it isn't a "easy wagon" read, which I feel is towny for some reason

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Just annoys me

Nope, this isnt good enough, particularly from Dunn, who is a good player.
Pos.s cum.

While the read isn't that good I can see where he comes from. Dunnstral has enough experience with me to be able to sort me imo. This level of vote is rater poor.

Priscila I cannot read your posts they're just too big

Relatable, it's a pain to go through it.

Completely agree, but a give away town tell. Scum dont want to stick out like Priscilla is doing, they want to blend in.

Affirms the points discussed while being constructive.

I'm struggling on Waffles. He made that one self conscious post about being scummy. But apart from that I'm not really getting the waffle shate. Anyone got a decent case on him?

Feel scum would take a position rather than asking here.