Mini Normal 1914 - Sunshine Mafia - Game Over

[TwoFace]

Just because I'm V/LA doesn't mean I'm not keeping tabs on the thread or looking at the progression of the thread, all it means is that I don't have the same amount of time to commit to it.

So you should have provided content in addition to this post.


You've got me at a time where I'm really humbled so you've got one shot. Who's your top scum read and what's the best reasons you have for it.

Ignore sheeping others and all of this other stuff. If you had your choice of somebody to lynch right now and everyone listened to you. Who is it and why them.

[Mulch]

VOTE: Drag

[TwoFace]

VOTE: Drag

reasons?

[Mulch]

I am very confident in my gamesolve that him and mario are scumbuddies

[TwoFace]

I am very confident in my gamesolve that him and mario are scumbuddies

What happened to your gut which is almost never wrong? The one where you just happened to scum read the 3 people voting for drag?

With votes tied at 2 for everyone you sure are giving up easily...

[Mulch]

My gut is sometimes wrong. I'm not going to flaunt my gut. But right now I think there is a very high chance that Mario and Drag are scumbuddies. I am willing to lynch Drag if nobody wants to do Mario

[TwoFace]

Less people want to lynch drag than want to lynch mario.

Not going to complain about more votes on drag but if you are town, this switch doesn't fit any perspective I can figure.

[Mulch]

Then vote Mario? At this point IDC who I vote as long as either Drag or Mario is lynched so my theory is confirmed

[Mulch]

OMFG you think that town can't change yourr mind, I am going to go off this thread before I get angry, you have a twisted mentality on what is scum or town. TOWN changes their mind a shitton more than scum

[TwoFace]

I never said town can't change their mind. I'm saying that it's odd that you have more people open to the idea that Mario could be scum than you have people who think drag is scum and you have given up without a fight.

Like I gave up cause I literally did all I could do to get drag lynched. Can you say you did the same?

If me thinking town should fight for their preferred lynch is twisted. Guilty as charged.

[Mulch]

Are you going to vote Mario? Or not. If not, I need your support because I refuse to lynch someone other than drag or Mario

[MarioManiac4]

What made you think I am town rather than scum trying to push a mislynch on you?

The way you're pushing me fells sincere and I think it's unlikely scum would choose to attack me rather than somebody more inactive.

No OMGUS and buddying. Also "I don't know why it is sincere" later.

Good one, Mulch. Scumpoints, MM4

i mean
the posturing is pretty clear on this one

[LaLight]

What made you think I am town rather than scum trying to push a mislynch on you?

The way you're pushing me fells sincere and I think it's unlikely scum would choose to attack me rather than somebody more inactive.

No OMGUS and buddying. Also "I don't know why it is sincere" later.

Good one, Mulch. Scumpoints, MM4

i mean
the posturing is pretty clear on this one

What do you mean by "posturing"? Showing off? Why? Why is it scummy?

[Cooperative Sheep]

Sheep have you been reading what I said or are you purposefully ignoring them!

I'm pretty sure it's possible I can both read your posts and ignore them afterwards.
Yes, I've read what you've said. No, I haven't been blinded by the flashes of insight therein.

Dannyboy's vote move is scummy.

Why?

It is opportunistic and empty (kind of like all your vote moves).

@Ingeel - can you describe any better why you actually town read Drag at that point in time? You're giving me lots of empty town buzz words and ignoring that I'm pointing out there was no logic in any of your presented points to call him town over.

I don't really see how they were illogical, it moreso feels like a confliction of play styles

But whatever, i felt he had town motivation, his tone was sincere, and i felt his thought process came from a town PoV

I specifically described why I see them as illogical and walked through the process - can you address my thoughts and stop dodging?

At this point since nobody wants to vote my top 2 reads, I'll vote whoever to prevent a no lynch. Day is ending in a couple of days and we aren't close to lynching anyone. Deadline scrambles suck.

Maybe an investigation role can investigate drag and confirm he's scum.

Ingeel wagon has some legs, and he blind defended your top scum read, so...

[Ingeel]

Interesting timing of that v/la.

Please no angleshooting

[Ingeel]

VOTE: IAI
Those reads are terrible.

Is terrible = scummy?

2 of those 4 i am on record saying I agree with so they aren't terrible. And if he thinks you are scummy for them he's a hypocrite cause he should think I'm scummy for agreeing with at least half of them.

That's not how any of this works

[Ingeel]

oh, come on.

Ingeel makes a townreading wall here and in the third post after that here is this?

I mean, okay, you're catching up, you were vla, but you don't follow yourself here.

VOTE: Ingeel as obv!scum

Ok i have no idea how you're correlating those posts

[Ingeel]

Sheep have you been reading what I said or are you purposefully ignoring them!

I'm pretty sure it's possible I can both read your posts and ignore them afterwards.
Yes, I've read what you've said. No, I haven't been blinded by the flashes of insight therein.

Dannyboy's vote move is scummy.

Why?

It is opportunistic and empty (kind of like all your vote moves).

@Ingeel - can you describe any better why you actually town read Drag at that point in time? You're giving me lots of empty town buzz words and ignoring that I'm pointing out there was no logic in any of your presented points to call him town over.

I don't really see how they were illogical, it moreso feels like a confliction of play styles

But whatever, i felt he had town motivation, his tone was sincere, and i felt his thought process came from a town PoV

I specifically described why I see them as illogical and walked through the process - can you address my thoughts and stop dodging?

At this point since nobody wants to vote my top 2 reads, I'll vote whoever to prevent a no lynch. Day is ending in a couple of days and we aren't close to lynching anyone. Deadline scrambles suck.

Maybe an investigation role can investigate drag and confirm he's scum.

Ingeel wagon has some legs, and he blind defended your top scum read, so...

How have i not addressed the problem

[Ingeel]

I'd be willing to wagon <mush, IAI>

Top two scumreads for now

Want to see more from Syndesis personally, and when i get off mobile I'll format a full readslist

[Cooperative Sheep]

@Ingeel - can you describe any better why you actually town read Drag at that point in time? You're giving me lots of empty town buzz words and ignoring that I'm pointing out there was no logic in any of your presented points to call him town over.

I don't really see how they were illogical, it moreso feels like a confliction of play styles

But whatever, i felt he had town motivation, his tone was sincere, and i felt his thought process came from a town PoV

I specifically described why I see them as illogical and walked through the process - can you address my thoughts and stop dodging?
How have i not addressed the problem

By...not addressing it?
Basically you've said this;

"The case is logical!"

I responded with this;

"Here is why the case is not logical [example 1, example 2, example 3] can you clarify why you find it logical?"

And the best response I got was the one quoted here, which is functionally saying;

"Because town buzzwords!"

So, you're absolutely failing to give me anything to work with to try to understand why you believe what you say you believe, and you also avoided discussing my rather specific breakdown of why I am 180 in opinion from you, on the amount of logic in Drag's posting. What I'm trying/hoping to get is for you to respond to my points in about the same way I made them, where you actually walk me through the "logic" you see and explain how you see it, and why I'm foolish for not seeing it at all.

Until you manage that, my personal reaction to your answers is that you *can't* answer like that, because you're lying to me.
Which makes me think you're scum.
Which is why I'm trying to lynch you.

Do you understand my stance now?

[Ingeel]

Ok yeah i was interpreting it completely differently

Let me get to a computer(should be like .5-1.5 hours)

[TwoFace]

VOTE: IAI
Those reads are terrible.

Is terrible = scummy?

2 of those 4 i am on record saying I agree with so they aren't terrible. And if he thinks you are scummy for them he's a hypocrite cause he should think I'm scummy for agreeing with at least half of them.

That's not how any of this works

You're right. Scum reading somebody for having different reads is bad. Voting to lynch them for it is terrible. That's one of the reasons why I'm down for an Alisae lynch

[Mulch]

VOTE: IAI
Those reads are terrible.

Is terrible = scummy?

2 of those 4 i am on record saying I agree with so they aren't terrible. And if he thinks you are scummy for them he's a hypocrite cause he should think I'm scummy for agreeing with at least half of them.

That's not how any of this works

You're right. Scum reading somebody for having different reads is bad. Voting to lynch them for it is terrible. That's one of the reasons why I'm down for an Alisae lynch

With the same logic you shouldn't be voting alisae- for bad logic huh?

Stop. Alisae is very town, drag and Mario are scum, vote one of them

[TwoFace]

I'm not voting Alisae though.

Alisae is definitely not "very town" I don't even think he is possibly town. He's a slight scum lean cause of my "twisted mentality"

[Dragnalus]

This game needs less of the same people talking to themselves.