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[Mulch]

Mario>Drag>syndesis>Ingeel

[Fro99er]

Day 1 Vote Count 1.06

I Am Innocent (2): Syndesis, Alisae
Alisae (2): Ingeel, I Am Innocent
Ingeel (2): Cooperative Sheep, LaLight
Dragnalus (3): TwoFace, iDanyboy, Mulch
MarioManiac4 (1): Dragnalus
LaLight (2): mush, MarioManiac4


Not Voting (1): BTD6_maker

Mod Notes: LaLight is V/LA on weekends, TwoFace is V/LA this weekend, Dragnalus is V/LA until Thursday, Prodding BTD6_Maker and iDanyboy

With 13 alive, It takes 7 to reach a Lynch.

Day 1 Ends (expired on 2017-06-02 18:15:00)

[Syndesis]

it's just inarticulably weird lol

like, I am inferring that I am/was in the PoE for lack of content which is fine, whatever, I know my content has in fact been terrible

but then the lack of the other lower content posters is liks. what. why are you townreading BTD6?

I'm glad someone's finally paying attention to me lol it was kind of disconcerting being blatantly ignored

[Syndesis]

imagine if I'd looked at the VC and spelled their name right

[Syndesis]

the fact that I'm suddenly popular when before I couldn't get attention for love or money is pretty amusing tbh

[MarioManiac4]

Really? I felt that MM4's vote on LaLight is more telling in a scum perspective because it felt like he was trying to allocate fake pressure on a partner as a means of distancing, though it never went anywhere. I also don't get why LaLight never really bothered with it either but perhaps LaLight's scum style plays in part with that. Maybe it could be even said that MM4 lied about his convictions if #36, #37 are telling in that category. Someone slightly below null does not belong in the lowest scum bracket, but what's even further confusing is this post statement:

#58

I didn't really have a firm stance on lalight

#146

{MM4}
{Syndesis, TwoFace}
{TrueGent, mush}
{noseacaballo, Cooperative Sheep, I Am Innocent, Ingeel, iDanyBoy, Dragnalus}
{Jordarrian,

LaLight

}

#341

what caused me to try to wagon lalight on page 2 was because I wanted to get out of rvs early- when that goes on too long I can get disengaged with the game and it helps meh wincon because we can scumhunt more

One of these things is not like the other.

He's most likely scum but there's something sinister about how he is wording things and putting people in pools, especially LaLight. If you read his arguments prior to this, he had placed me scummier than LaLight and said that we could possibly be partners etc. The fact is that you cannot say something is 'slightly below null' and then put them as Scum #2 in your pool. There is also a disconnect where MM4 never seemed to bother with pursuing his LaLight read further.

I will say however his reapplied vote to LaLight is awful and then immediate jump off of him based on a single response, but I think it's telling. I don't know, entertain the idea with me for a minute and I will promptly switch my vote after.

It really feels like he's trying to tie himself up to me. I don't like it either, don't fall for that. Wouldn't be too obvious if I indeed was his scumpartner?

^ this is horrible
they're just like, "aHa! You see, my friend, this person is just trying to tie themself to me! If I were their scumpartner it would be too obvious, so let's vote MM4!" when there is just nothing to suggest anything like that

What made you think I am town rather than scum trying to push a mislynch on you?

The way you're pushing me fells sincere and I think it's unlikely scum would choose to attack me rather than somebody more inactive.

No OMGUS and buddying. Also "I don't know why it is sincere" later.

Good one, Mulch. Scumpoints, MM4

This really feels completely fake. Like, how is it buddying? I townread Mulch who is attacking me -> buddying? Like, I'm pretty sure this is just not real. And acting like townreading a player who is pushing on me makes me scum is just ridiculous. It feels like LaLight is just posturing here; looking for ways to get on my wagon, which was building momentum at the time.

I dislike how everyone has suddenly arrived at the consensus we should lynch Syndesis and I think it's more likely people are just compromising on town. I haven't seen anyone actually townread LaLight anyway, so theoretically it shouldn't get too much resistance

[Mulch]

Mario, if Laliight is town then what would you say to my perspective of you

[MarioManiac4]

Mario, if Laliight is town then what would you say to my perspective of you

I can't be bothered to sort you at this point because it would just completely exhaust me. If you're town you are hard tunnelling me for no reason whatsoever and making the game unfun. If you're scum you're just playing to your wincon I guess? But I have no idea which it is. I thought you were town but as time goes on and you have an increasing amount of confidence in a read that has only been justified by a confbiased case, I can see you going either way.

[Cooperative Sheep]

the fact that I'm suddenly popular when before I couldn't get attention for love or money is pretty amusing tbh

How were you trying to "get attention" before this?

[Mulch]

Well, others will just have to interpret that statement you just made as they wish

[TwoFace]

That's a silly complaint. I post every day, answer everything asked of me, and am clearly advancing my own agenda in a trackable way.

Ok

[Syndesis]

the fact that I'm suddenly popular when before I couldn't get attention for love or money is pretty amusing tbh

How were you trying to "get attention" before this?

I dunno, by talking?

[Cooperative Sheep]

You didn't try talking - I tried talking to you at one point and you promised content days into the future.
Was that you trying to get attention from me?

[Syndesis]

You didn't try talking - I tried talking to you at one point and you promised content days into the future.
Was that you trying to get attention from me?

I have in fact talked, but it was like talking to a wall. Or perhaps a tunnel would be a better description.

And no.

[TwoFace]

30 posts in 33 pages with very little usable content isn't taking

[I Am Innocent]

Hey syndesis, how about a full reads list with accompanying reasons?

[I Am Innocent]

I don't like how quiet alisea is right now either... :-/

[Cooperative Sheep]

@Syndesis - you haven't talked, so why are you lying to us?
And if you think you talked - please show me your questions/conversation starters that "were like talking to a wall" because I actually *invited* you to offer input and you declined, so I feel my BS meter ticking here. You're lying to me or yourself, yeah?

[Mulch]

Do you guys want to have me make a new case on Mario? Or are you so convinced he is town it wont matter?

[BTD6_maker]

I need to look through the IaI and Syndesis interactions.

I think the 3 scum are in {drag, alisea, mulch, syndesis, ingeel}

can I reiterate that this is a strange-looking scumpile

Why because you're on it? Do you town read any of the other group? Because a blanket statement like you just made is called shade, and only reinforces my scum read of your slot. The fact you, along with Alisea throw shade at my list without asking for explanations regarding those reads is scummy as all get out.

Your ISO pretty much sucks too. Your contribution to the game is terrible. And by sucks and terrible, I don't mean bad, but I mean scummy.

Of the five, I think mulch is my least scummy. He portrays a behavior that I often in find in misguided town players.

My preference is {drag, alisea, syndesis, ingeel} at the moment.

IaI gave no reasoning for this before this. The most they had was one line on TrueGent. Indeed, there was not that much afterwards so it is understandable that Syndesis disagreed with the list and perhaps thought it was the equivalent of pulling five names out of a hat.

...lack of voting history (never moved his RVS vote)

This is true, although Syndesis did not really have any apparent scumreads just from looking at the ISO. Reads from Syndesis would be helpful. I am wondering, if Syndesis keeps the vote on IaI, what their reasoning is.

[Syndesis]

Hey syndesis, how about a full reads list with accompanying reasons?

how about "I don't have any reads" listed 12 times

I like mush and MM4 and tentatively Dragnalus. Mush has had a few good posts, MM4 and Dragnalus feel like they feel like I do right now (I am still not so fond of the RVS thing from Dragnalus though).

@Syndesis - you haven't talked, so why are you lying to us?
And if you think you talked - please show me your questions/conversation starters that "were like talking to a wall" because I actually *invited* you to offer input and you declined, so I feel my BS meter ticking here. You're lying to me or yourself, yeah?

sure

[Syndesis]

@BTD6
I find his reads weird as I've said, though I am not particularly convicted in this read and have been in the market for a more interesting wagon to camp out on for a while.

[Cooperative Sheep]

@Syndesis - you haven't talked, so why are you lying to us?
And if you think you talked - please show me your questions/conversation starters that "were like talking to a wall" because I actually *invited* you to offer input and you declined, so I feel my BS meter ticking here. You're lying to me or yourself, yeah?

sure

You have about four questions there, three of which had already been answered in the thread.
I'm not surprised you got mediocre reactions to it.

If you were trying to start conversations why did you blow me off?
I've asked you that a few times now, and you haven't addressed it.

[iDanyboy]

I need to look through the IaI and Syndesis interactions.

This is true, although Syndesis did not really have any apparent scumreads just from looking at the ISO. Reads from Syndesis would be helpful. I am wondering, if Syndesis keeps the vote on IaI, what their reasoning is.

Could you answer this please?

[Syndesis]

Ignoring people, even if they're asking questions that have already been answered, is generally a good way to make them feel like their attempts to participate are pointless.

I seem to have misremembered what you were asking me, but I didn't really see it as a question so much as an incitement to get off my rear.