Mini Normal 1917: :X Mafia (Game over!)

[Cheetory6]

AHHHHHHH THE PRESSURE
I SURE HOPE I CAN KEEP UP THIS ACT

[Klick]

Yep, gg wp D2 pls

[MuttonChopMagic]

ah the classic game begins
random user 5 does rqs with chagrin
random user 11 calls him out as scum
and then useless rqs debate! fun!
cheetory is acting like he's a god
but no clue who he is, some egotistical rando, yawn
drk calls rqs scummy for not being relevant
and yet his whole mafia theory discussion is an elephant
empty long posts about not making empty long posts
contributing as much to game solving as the host

VOTE: cheetory

[DeathRowKitty]

ITT I apparently made long posts, called RQS scummy, and called Grendel scummy. And I'm apparently a he.

But at least it all rhymed?

[Cheetory6]

Sounds like you're coming into the game with a positive mindset.
I like that!

Mafia needs more people with a more optimistic approach.
(:

P-Edit: DRK.
I have a serious question for you.

[NotTheRealPaul]

First game here in a while. I'm aflutter with emotion!

@All

1. What is your preferred alignment?
2. On a scale of one to ten how collaborative a player are you and why?
3. How important is it to take other players personalities into account when forming reads on them?
4. What player do you have the most experience with on this roster?
5. What are you feeling as you enter this mini's D1?

1. Never been a scum but I want to play as one. I like knowing who is what alignment.

2. Im pretty sheepy but occasionally I try to form my own reads and fail miserably. Probably a solid 7.

3. Mehh. Personality can be faked. If you know them really well/played with them a lot then sure I guess you should take it into account.

4. I have very little (like none) experience with anyone but GE and muttonchop I am currently am in a game with.

5. Sleepy. Its 9 pm here and I need to wake up early. Gnight.

VOTE: NotTheRealPaul

[Cheetory6]

DRK, do you think I'm hard to read when I'm trying?

[Grendel]

I was worried that you might get something AI off of me if I answered it seriously.

u sound like sassy town trying to toy with me for the lulz

Some of your other recent post also reflect this sentiment. Tho geared towards the roster in general.

So I guess I technically did???

Not that I would expect an experienced player such as yourself to be unable to fake a flippant approach to the game. I just wanna not wifom over this. thx

[DeathRowKitty]

DRK, do you think I'm hard to read when I'm trying?

I would expect you to be, but I've never played with you so ???

[notsure]

You talk a lot about finding mafia and yet you seem to find find more value in answering non-game-specific questions than you do in discussing reads. Is interesting. Would you say that this utterly bizarre valuation is relevant to your alignment or is it a part of your views on mafia theory?

What about me seems scummy to you?

The more people talk, the more content TOwn has to work with in identifying potential mafia. What about that don't you understand?

[Cheetory6]

Cheetory Mafia?
I was under the impression that you had a rough idea of what my playstyle is like.

[Klick]

You talk a lot about finding mafia and yet you seem to find find more value in answering non-game-specific questions than you do in discussing reads. Is interesting. Would you say that this utterly bizarre valuation is relevant to your alignment or is it a part of your views on mafia theory?

What about me seems scummy to you?

The more people talk, the more content TOwn has to work with in identifying potential mafia. What about that don't you understand?

For talking to be beneficial, the conversation has to be meaningful. Random theory talk/ice-breaking leads to a lot of pointless null discussion.

[Cheetory6]

Oh wtf you weren't in Cheetory Mafia.
I could have sworn we'd played something together at some point.
:s

Meh.
Can you talk at me about what you were hoping to accomplish here?
Like, did you think you were going to sort me by pushing me here and get something actually reliable out of it?

[Gamma Emerald]

DRK, do you think I'm hard to read when I'm trying?

I would expect you to be, but I've never played with you so ???

So you're scumreading him for an out of game feud entirely
I didn't know I was a better player than you

[Klick]

tbh I feel like we'll get a lot of info out of a straight-up Cheetory quicklynch

[Cheetory6]

Lol we're not quicklynching me.

[Gamma Emerald]

tbh I feel like we'll get a lot of info out of a straight-up Cheetory quicklynch

No
I wanna keep him around since I find him fun to talk with.
Also I get a slight feeling he will obvtown if he is Town.

[Grendel]

Still why is it bad?

The questions don't have enough (any?) of a direct tie to the current game for alignment to meaningfully appear in answers. *insert theory discussion of early game here* so RQS is basically the worst thing ever. Talking about it in general terms is also a bad thing though so etc

I think it works as a nice one trick pony.

Its easier to catch scum when they play along with things they aren't used to. Here random questions is uncommon to the point that I have a decent chance of tripping inexperienced scum, and identifying some town.

I just can't use in with a roster off people that are used to it.

Any case thanks for reinforcing the notion that RQS is bad so I can keep using it to form

better then RVS

reads in the future.

PRE-EDIT
Identifying scum on page one is less likely then hitting scum with a random vote.

So no thank you Klick

[Grendel]

ah the classic game begins
random user 5 does rqs with chagrin
random user 11 calls him out as scum
and then useless rqs debate! fun!
cheetory is acting like he's a god
but no clue who he is, some egotistical rando, yawn
drk calls rqs scummy for not being relevant
and yet his whole mafia theory discussion is an elephant
empty long posts about not making empty long posts
contributing as much to game solving as the host

VOTE: cheetory

Of the Cheetory votes I think this is the one I'm least thrilled with

VOTE: MuttonChop

[notsure]

...
For talking to be beneficial, the conversation has to be meaningful. Random theory talk/ice-breaking leads to a lot of pointless null discussion.

Yes, but IT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME. It's just an opening to get people to start talking. The worst thing you can do is to discourage people from talking imo. You scum buddies with bunny?

[Cheetory6]

I would vote MuttonChop if I wanted to cull the player I like the least so far!
I don't really know if that's a good metric though!

[DeathRowKitty]

You talk a lot about finding mafia and yet you seem to find find more value in answering non-game-specific questions than you do in discussing reads. Is interesting. Would you say that this utterly bizarre valuation is relevant to your alignment or is it a part of your views on mafia theory?

What about me seems scummy to you?

The more people talk, the more content TOwn has to work with in identifying potential mafia. What about that don't you understand?

Mmkay, you don't seem to have understood what I was saying, so let me try again.

Not all posting is created equal. e.g. we could talk about ice cream and unicorns all day and it would be fun but we would get nowhere. I doubt you disagree with this concept.

Your posting seems to indicate that you found the random questions and the answering thereof to be a positive thing. Presumably, this means that you consider them to in some way advance the game, which you seem to understand is something that happens through reading people. Would you therefore say that it is your belief that these questions in some way help to read anyone? If so, what reads have you gained from it and what about it gave you those reads?

When I asked you about your reads, you seemed to believe that this made me likely scum. Now, scummy and anti-town aren't the same thing, but it seems likely in this case that you found it scummy at least partly because you did think it was anti-town. Is this correct?

Now, if the contentions in the previous two paragraph thingies are correct (i.e. that you found answering the questions to be a positive and that you found asking for reads to be anti-town), it would seem reasonable to conclude that you find more value in non-game-specific questions than you do in discussing reads. If so... .... ... why???



p-edit wow a lot of posts happened while i was typing this i am long-winded sry

[Grendel]

...
For talking to be beneficial, the conversation has to be meaningful. Random theory talk/ice-breaking leads to a lot of pointless null discussion.

Yes, but IT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME. It's just an opening to get people to start talking. The worst thing you can do is to discourage people from talking imo. You scum buddies with bunny?

Are you town reading me?

[Cheetory6]

No
I wanna keep him around since I find him fun to talk with.
Also I get a slight feeling he will obvtown if he is Town.

Hi Gamma!
Do you have any reads you'd like to share with the class?

[DeathRowKitty]

Can you talk at me about what you were hoping to accomplish here?
Like, did you think you were going to sort me by pushing me here and get something actually reliable out of it?

I realized after I did it that it wouldn't really accomplish what I intended, but the intention wasn't to pressure you

It ties into how I've been playing this game and I suspect you can at least kind of guess at why based on that.



Unrelated, but I like Grendel even though I heavily disagree with his theory views.