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[CCC]

I know it's hard to seem Townish on day one.

Both of my tutorial games, I was lynched day one for apparently looking really scummy. Both of my tutorial games, I was Town. So, yeah. The struggle is a hard one. I understand it.

But... I can also understand why people might want to vote for you. I'm not trying to knock you. Not at all.

[Cheetory6]

You're a very genial person!
Don't worry, I was just kidding around.


I'm going to be very town when I start feeling good about a scumread.

While we're here, do you think scum genuinely thinks that they can get a quicklynch in the first 5 pages?

[CCC]

Just as a general question for everyone - is having around one in three players Mafia a reasonable ratio?

Which, with thirteen players, would mean four Mafia?

[Cheetory6]

Oh jeeze.
Uh.
Three mafia is probably the only thing you're going to see here.

[CCC]

You're a very genial person!
Don't worry, I was just kidding around.

Excellent!

[quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=9279617#p9279617]:I'm going to be very town when I start feeling good about a scumread.

While we're here, do you think scum genuinely thinks that they can get a quicklynch in the first 5 pages?[/quote]

No, I don't. I do think that they'll grab it with both hands if it falls into their lap, though.

And I do think that trying for it, even in a completely non-serious way, is at least a slight hint of Mafianess.

[CCC]

Argh. Apologies; messed up that quote in the last post.

Oh jeeze.
Uh.
Three mafia is probably the only thing you're going to see here.

So, one in four, then? That's better than I'd expected...

[NotTheRealPaul]

I think NotTheRealPaul is probably scum. The selfvote + questionnaire answering felt like a really bad attempt to fit in/insert self into game and their post was more or less an isolated island that didn't touch on what was being discussed around them. This is scummy because mafia find it way easier to put themselves into a game through easy to fake stuff like selfvote jokes or answering NAI questions rather than put themselves in the midst of real discussion.

VOTE: NotTheRealPaul

oh crap you caught me

Let me just hop onto the maf thread and ask cheetory what to do.

This is either a scum confession or an attempt at humour in seriously bad taste.

I consider the second of those two possibilities rather significantly more likely than the first; but, either way, I think the unreal Paul deserves some scrutiny.

Not that there's much to scrutinise yet...

I dosagree I thought it was a decent attempt at humor if a little unoriginal.

But humor is subjective soooooo....

[Cheetory6]

Do you have any reads Paul?

[NotTheRealPaul]

my spelling sucks please forgive my fat fingers

I have to type on my teeny weeny iphone and I forgot to notice mistakes seconds after hitting submit

pedit: i dont like notsure rn. idk what to think of your thing with drk but I do agree with him on theory

accountant I dislike although this is omgus territory. IMO he is looking to much into my opening and I can see it as him trying to mislynch a newbie.

[Cheetory6]

Can you talk a bit more about what you're not liking about notsure?
What do you think of Accountant's play beyond their thoughts on you?

[Accountant]

>paul's entrance is bad because no effort made to engage with discussion
>response is to make a joke then complain I am looking too much into his opening without addressing topics of discussion that don't involve people voting him

My vote stays

[Accountant]

Well I guess he talked about notsure and drk

[NotTheRealPaul]

forgot to add a slight scumread on CCC just because he thinks an obvious joke warrants scrutiny

ya im probably lost deep in the heart of omgus territory and need to re-evaluate

[Accountant]

My mind is telling me no but my bodys telling me yes

[Cheetory6]

TripleC is probably my strongest townread atm ftr.

[Accountant]

TripleC is probably my strongest townread atm ftr.

Why? He's said nothing AI

[NotTheRealPaul]

I think accountant's play other than his accusation is fine. I agree with him that scum can/will make shitty entrances but I think he got a bit too focused there. Like you should look back at D1 through the prism of D2/D3 and scrutinize everyone's entrance but doing so right out of RVS seems dumb.

[NotTheRealPaul]

TripleC is probably my strongest townread atm ftr.

Dont let his niceness fool you

[Klick]

(Not actually here but fwiw I was not legitimately proposing we quicklynch Cheetory ffs)

[NotTheRealPaul]

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Everything you just said is incredibly silly. Do you have any reads?

And why is it silly? What's silly is not getting people to talk and interact. How is Town supposed to find mafia if we just do what you're doing?

And you're asking about reads now? You seem pretty scummy...having a bad start?

drk pointed it out in 44 but Notsure is dodging the question of reads while saying he is trying to advance the gamestate.

First encouraging activity is NAI since scum can easily use it to get towncred.

Like I find it hypocritical he claims he wants to advance the gamestate but doesnt give out reads. And his accusation againsy drk comes off as kinda arrogant and my gut no likey.

[Cheetory6]

I did some homework!

One of TripleC's recent games was an 11 player game in which there was 3 scum.

Newbie games have nine players, two of whom are Mafia. Here we have eleven players.

Three mafia sounds about right to me.

Given that this is something they've been interested in trying to figure out as town before, the # of games they've played in general and the different numbering in said game, I'm leaning towards believing that the # of players line of questioning is genuine.
His tone as scum is a little more forced from what I saw in the one game I skimmed and I feel like he genuinely believes his reading for his scumread on Klick.
So, town for now.

[Cheetory6]

but doesnt give out reads

Do you not consider him calling DRK scummy as him giving out a read?

[NotTheRealPaul]

but doesnt give out reads

Do you not consider him calling DRK scummy as him giving out a read?

I kinda addressed it but my gut thought that read was kinda fake.

I dont really have the words but it kinda felt like he was lashing out at drk for questioning him

does that make sense?

[Cheetory6]

Yea.

[NotTheRealPaul]

cheerory are you still notsure on notsure?

and what do you think of acvountant's push on me?