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[Cheetory6]

I am still notsure on notsure.
Your point about them lashing out at DRK is actually pretty alright, but I have some bigger fish to fry atm though and I don't really think extra pressure on notsure is going to make them easier to read.

Accountant is in tryhard mode atm and I'm pretty close to townleaning them for it tbh.

[NotTheRealPaul]

I am still notsure on notsure.
Your point about them lashing out at DRK is actually pretty alright, but I have some bigger fish to fry atm though and I don't really think extra pressure on notsure is going to make them easier to read.

Accountant is in tryhard mode atm and I'm pretty close to townleaning them for it tbh.

whose the bigger fish thats getting fried?

[Accountant]

I actually think notsure's actions aren't objectively that bad and a lot of the reads wrt him are clouded by dislike

[MuttonChopMagic]

Mutton why have you been trying to peddle to me the idea that DRK is scum so hard when your vote has not been on them?

grendel is a bigger issue
lying about catching scum is a bitch move

[Cheetory6]

A good mafia player never reveals their secrets. hehehheheheh

[MuttonChopMagic]

TripleC is probably my strongest townread atm ftr.

Why? He's said nothing AI

I'm actually the opposite and have him as a scum lean
his attitude isn't very clean

[Accountant]

I'm actually the opposite and have him as a scum lean
his attitude isn't very clean

hIs aTtItUdE iSn'T vErY cLeAn

[Accountant]

Just explain why you scumread CCC

[MuttonChopMagic]

okay okay so I have some good poe going
this should make the scum start showing
cheetory, accountant, klick, gamma, notsure as green
so that leaves 3/7 scum in {bigben, ccc, paul, backhand, raya, grendel, drk}, neat

[Accountant]

UNVOTE:

[MuttonChopMagic]

by the way accountant, I shoved scum grendel harder
after all, I did a pbpa, for starters

[MuttonChopMagic]

...I'm a bit suspicious of this dogpile on Cheetory. I mean, yes, Cheetory hasn't exactly been a shining example of pure Townishness... but at the same time, having three votes on him makes him look like a safe Mafia target, especially so early in the game. MuttonChopMagic's long rhyming posts are hard to read and hard to parse... DeathRowKitty's feud would look a lot more suspicious if she wasn't the first to start piling on Cheetory; but what really strikes me as the Mafiaest post so far (and that's a pretty low bar) is Klick calling for a quicklynch on Cheetory.

I'm sure Mafia would

love

a quicklynch on Day One. Less time to talk, to make and consider reads, to act and react, to allow Town time to work.

VOTE: Klick

Still why is it bad?

The questions don't have enough (any?) of a direct tie to the current game for alignment to meaningfully appear in answers. *insert theory discussion of early game here* so RQS is basically the worst thing ever. Talking about it in general terms is also a bad thing though so etc

So, what do you think we

should

be talking about on Day One, then?

I think NotTheRealPaul is probably scum. The selfvote + questionnaire answering felt like a really bad attempt to fit in/insert self into game and their post was more or less an isolated island that didn't touch on what was being discussed around them. This is scummy because mafia find it way easier to put themselves into a game through easy to fake stuff like selfvote jokes or answering NAI questions rather than put themselves in the midst of real discussion.

VOTE: NotTheRealPaul

oh crap you caught me

Let me just hop onto the maf thread and ask cheetory what to do.

This is either a scum confession or an attempt at humour in seriously bad taste.

I consider the second of those two possibilities rather significantly more likely than the first; but, either way, I think the unreal Paul deserves some scrutiny.

Not that there's much to scrutinise yet...

I know it's hard to seem Townish on day one.

Both of my tutorial games, I was lynched day one for apparently looking really scummy. Both of my tutorial games, I was Town. So, yeah. The struggle is a hard one. I understand it.

But... I can also understand why people might want to vote for you. I'm not trying to knock you. Not at all.

Just as a general question for everyone - is having around one in three players Mafia a reasonable ratio?

Which, with thirteen players, would mean four Mafia?

You're a very genial person!
Don't worry, I was just kidding around.

Excellent!

[quote="In :I'm going to be very town when I start feeling good about a scumread.

While we're here, do you think scum genuinely thinks that they can get a quicklynch in the first 5 pages?

No, I don't. I do think that they'll ... 7]post 130, CCC"]Argh. Apologies; messed up that quote in the last post.

Oh jeeze.
Uh.
Three mafia is probably the only thing you're going to see here.

So, one in four, then? That's better than I'd expected...[/quote]
so here we see 8 posts in a catch up
not a single thing gamesolving or even advancing the thread, yup
I actually didn't notice how bad it was my first read
this is a gross as fuck entrance, votes we might need

[Accountant]

I wish we lived in a world where that kind of behavior is in fact a scum tell but we do not

[Backhand]

Hello! This thread escalated quickly.

MCM, why make a big post on CCC and not change your vote?

[MuttonChopMagic]

because I scumread grendel more than ccc?
that's not even a big post aside from quotes, jeez

[Backhand]

Oh, let me rephrase then: why do you scumread grendel? I thought that was more of a random vote.

[MuttonChopMagic]

let's do a pbpa before I sleep
rqs, fuck off creep
le hilarious shitpost, you should be a comedian
more buddying of cheeto, the votes should be stampedin
oh look, third post in a row about cheeto
and more buddying... not tryna repeat though
67 is pretty gross in a different way
inventing some b.s. about rqs catching scum today
the pedit itself is even worse I think
but people discredit lamist as a tell so I won't make a stink
oh look, he's not thrilled with me, nice reasoning bro
and now the reasoning in 92... gross
I'm detached from the game state? checking boxes? fuck off
your rqs is what made the "game state" aloft
95 wording is really weird
pbpa out, my vote stays herr

[Backhand]

Ah, I see. I did read through seven pages pretty quickly, but I'm not sure your gimmick is very communicative.

There are a lot of VIs in this game.

Name names?

[Accountant]

Name names?

No

[Cheetory6]

Backhand do you have any reads?

[Backhand]

Not real strongly, yet. I originally didn't like MCM's CCC v. Grendel position, but I see I just missed his discussion on Grendel (how could that have happened). Did not like Accountant's calling out of VIs--those first few pages weren't that bad, and it seems like a way to set up discrediting people's opinions later.

Oh, CCC is town or he attempted a super weird gambit (probably the first, he seems pretty straightforward)

[Cheetory6]

You forgot about the super most important thing that's happened so far
the wagon on me!
No thoughts on anything that's happened around that?

[Accountant]

Did not like Accountant's calling out of VIs--those first few pages weren't that bad, and it seems like a way to set up discrediting people's opinions later.

If that was what I wanted to do it sure seems dumb that I'd also engage with them and try to understand their reads and thought process

And those few pages were bad, don't lie to yourself

PEdit: idk what to make of it

[CCC]

forgot to add a slight scumread on CCC just because he thinks an obvious joke warrants scrutiny

Do you have reason to believe you might not be able to withstand scrutiny?

[CCC]

TripleC is probably my strongest townread atm ftr.

I'm gratified but slightly surprised. Normally I seem to make people think I'm slightly scummy when I'm Town.

TripleC is probably my strongest townread atm ftr.

Dont let his niceness fool you

Oh, wait, there it is.