Mini Normal 1908 - In The Web (Game Over)

[MarioManiac4]

UNVOTE:
holy shit mmm is actually town

[Gamma Emerald]

I just thought, what if Ray and Priscila are both mafia

[MarioManiac4]

That would actually make more sense than anything else if Ircher is actually Even-Night JK. Or mebbe not because town would still be underpowered. idk.
gamma, who's scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

No clue
Still townread you, no reason to SR Ircher or PP rn
Why do you say MMM is town?

[MarioManiac4]

No clue
Still townread you, no reason to SR Ircher or PP rn
Why do you say MMM is town?

because his recent posts are obvious town. like, they leak town perspective. my reasons for scumreading him were kinda off as well.
Ircher is confirmed town pretty much. PP's hammer was awful. You should look at it and tell me what you find?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd comment on that but

would like Ircher to confirm that he is just an odd-night J/K

and leave it at that

TBH this post makes me think Ray is town since scum would have discussed the setup in chat enough the the fact that

Ircher claimed even night

down in their memory

[MarioManiac4]

Does that mean I get to be conftown for calling Ircher a doctor

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm already townreading you
And it's not a conftown it's a "too dumb to be scum" thing

[Ircher]

So I'd like to start off with a comment saying that I lied a lil about my role.

I'm actually a three shot gunsmith. I wanted the first two results out just in case of anything and to get them out there in a game approaching a potential mislynch and lose situation if we got things wrong.

Problem is that I didn't get a result when I used my third shot last night, I targeted priscilla, I didn't get a result.

I'm not sure what to think of this, especially given it's like 3 am here, but I figured I'd drop this since I noticed the game thread's open.

I got a question for you:

Why didn't your slot cc or otherwise heavily doubt Havingfitz's Watcher claim D1? (Or maybe you did and I forget -- in that case, just quote yourself.)

The existence of a 3-shot gunsmith imo makes a full watcher very unlikely and a town 1-shot watcher pretty unlikely.

[Ircher]

It was. Terrible.

Then why? What was your motivation to do such?

Also, I'm no longer V/LA.

[Ircher]

Roleblocker does not make sense with only 2 town power roles who are both gated and on opposite nights. His claim must somehow be real.

Don't forget that DV is a very likely IC for town (despite miller, the chances of a scum DV aren't very high)

[Ircher]

Only way is that Ircher is just JK and jailed you

I am even night.

[Ircher]

Without Ray, town seems too weak.

If Ray is telling the truth, that means we have an unclaimed PR (such as a mafia ascetic). There are two possible explanations from my PoV:

1) The mods may some kind of error
2) Ray is gambitting here and is really just 2-shot.

[Gamma Emerald]

What about Priscila being Ascetic

[Ircher]

I feel town is too weak in that scenario; RayFrost being 2-shot and gambitting seems way more plausible imo.

[ThinkBig]

Please hold

[ThinkBig]

Pausing the timer at 12 days, 14 hrs, 10 mins

[ThinkBig]

The game continues. There has been a modding error with regards to certain night actions. This will be discussed postgame.

The deadline is in (expired on 2017-06-17 03:11:53)

[MarioManiac4]

So RayFrost is confirmed town.

[MarioManiac4]

I'm guessing that the mod error was that Priscila had no gun but TB/nadroj sent a no result PM.
VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[RayFrost]

I have five minutes before I do my first dnd session in life, dropping in to say a quick "well, then" and reply to this.

I got a question for you:

Why didn't your slot cc or otherwise heavily doubt Havingfitz's Watcher claim D1? (Or maybe you did and I forget -- in that case, just quote yourself.)

The existence of a 3-shot gunsmith imo makes a full watcher very unlikely and a town 1-shot watcher pretty unlikely.

Without knowledge of

any other roles

, I had no explicit reason to suspect havingfitz's claim at the time.

And I definitely had no reason to counterclaim a role that wasn't mine on someone that, if they were lying, would be easy to catch anyway. Trading one for one, while it favors town, is unfavorable if it is unnecessary. He was not a priority.

Also read what I said about setup speculation

[Gamma Emerald]

Ray is MM4 correct?

[RayFrost]

The mods have not communicated with me regarding their error and probably have no intention to do so.

[ThinkBig]

Nexus told me not to discuss it further until postgame

[MarioManiac4]

eh that probably means that your result stands
which sucks because RF!SCUM MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER BUT NEITHER DOES A SCUM ASCETIC/ROLESTOPPER AAAAAAAAAAAAA