Open 688: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[MuttonChopMagic]

Can i not be totally useless

ftfy
now fuck off please and thank you

[aronagrundy]

can we stop saying cc it doesn't really mean anything when we know that the nights for roles are randomly determined

[aronagrundy]

I was N1 doc and saved Creature.
This is the reason why I was a bit suspicious of Agent's claim.
Although there could be 2 docs, for me it's unlikely that there could be 3 docs on N1.
I would like to lynch between Agent and Sheep.

I would also like to point out that if you ctrl+f creature in alban's iso this is the only post where he mentions him

[aronagrundy]

although he doesn't go into detail into any of his townreads

[Sesq]

i wasnt talking to you paul

but i would policy lynch

due to this claim i am officialy CONFTOWN

until i am killed tonight / someone tries to challenge my 100% correct claim

No you're not. You just are so off-base believing that a random claim clears you that no one fucking cares.

I was N1 doc and saved Creature.
This is the reason why I was a bit suspicious of Agent's claim.
Although there could be 2 docs, for me it's unlikely that there could be 3 docs on N1.
I would like to lynch between Agent and Sheep.

Any preference there sport?

yeah, but if im not being cc'd im confirmed town

so for now, you should believe everything i say as if it was coming from town. not as if its automatically accurate, but coming from town.

unless someone wants to counterclaim. i dare you to do it scum

anyway so we lynch in {alban, sparkles, coop sheep}

feeling most confident about alban

[MuttonChopMagic]

if Alban is scum so is one of the other two
there was no other reason for scum to fake it boo

[Gamma Emerald]

No? There's no official method of CC'ing beyond the numbers of possible Doctors which is 6.

[MuttonChopMagic]

?

[Gamma Emerald]

There can only be 6 of each town role maximum. Therefore a seventh means one is scum.

[MuttonChopMagic]

and what relevance does that have to my statement?
that does not rebut me great gam

[Gamma Emerald]

That wasn't responding to you, it was to Sesq.

[MuttonChopMagic]

o
rightyo

[alban]

I was N1 doc and saved Creature.
This is the reason why I was a bit suspicious of Agent's claim.
Although there could be 2 docs, for me it's unlikely that there could be 3 docs on N1.
I would like to lynch between Agent and Sheep.

I just said that I played in a game where there were three n2 cops so it's possible

Yes, it's possible. But less probable.

[Gamma Emerald]

Albany who would you vote at this juncture?

[alban]

I was N1 doc and saved Creature.
This is the reason why I was a bit suspicious of Agent's claim.
Although there could be 2 docs, for me it's unlikely that there could be 3 docs on N1.
I would like to lynch between Agent and Sheep.

I would also like to point out that if you ctrl+f creature in alban's iso this is the only post where he mentions him

I didn't understand your point. Are you saying my claim of having saved Creature is unfounded coz I didn't mention him? Elaborate.
In case you want to understand why I saved them -
I didn't want to save any of these:

I m going to vote between sesq, gamma, lunae and hellfire.

Creature had the maximum contribution to the game (at least going by the number of posts) imo if one excludes the people I suspected. Given the fact that no one was killed, and assuming that all doc claims are true, there's a 33% chance that the scum targeted Creature. So, all in all, Creature turned out to be a good choice to save.

[alban]

Albany who would you vote at this juncture?

Would vote between hellfire, lunae, gamma, sesq > agent, sheep

[alban]

i wasnt talking to you paul

but i would policy lynch

due to this claim i am officialy CONFTOWN

until i am killed tonight / someone tries to challenge my 100% correct claim

No you're not. You just are so off-base believing that a random claim clears you that no one fucking cares.

I was N1 doc and saved Creature.
This is the reason why I was a bit suspicious of Agent's claim.
Although there could be 2 docs, for me it's unlikely that there could be 3 docs on N1.
I would like to lynch between Agent and Sheep.

Any preference there sport?

yeah, but if im not being cc'd im confirmed town

..snipped..

feeling most confident about alban

Explain the statements in bold.

[Gamma Emerald]

Albany who would you vote at this juncture?

Would vote between hellfire, lunae, gamma, sesq > agent, sheep

Wow
I thought you were scummy but this is just


OML

VOTE: alban

For the rest of the class, this is because he stated he doubted Coop/AS both being doc with him but is doing nothing to actually sort that lead.

[LunaeCinere]

Why was Gamma Emerald town anyway?

Great question!

VOTE: alban

well thanks for reminding me

but in reality, i just forgot. dont let confibas shook you.

i think it should be pretty evident why he is scum

Do I have to make another case to convince you he's town again?

I guess there's likely one scum in Agent Sparkles and Cooperative Sheep.

Why is this?

im night three doctor

counterclaim me

i fucking dare you

The docs and cops are randomized, so there can be multiple of the same role for the same night.

I agree that it's not necessarily a bad idea to lynch inside the claimed doc/target pool

I was N1 doc and saved Creature.
This is the reason why I was a bit suspicious of Agent's claim.
Although there could be 2 docs, for me it's unlikely that there could be 3 docs on N1.
I would like to lynch between Agent and Sheep.

I'm not sure alban would claim n1 doc as scum after aron's post.

[alban]

Albany who would you vote at this juncture?

Would vote between hellfire, lunae, gamma, sesq > agent, sheep

Wow
I thought you were scummy but this is just


OML

VOTE: alban

For the rest of the class, this is because he stated he doubted Coop/AS both being doc with him but is doing nothing to actually sort that lead.

It's not even 24 hours since D2 began. Cut me some fucking slack. I will sort it out in due time. Your haste in getting it going is disturbing. Keep doing it, and you will be at the top of my suspicion hierarchy.

[Cooperative Sheep]

better to read his words

That is the opposite of reality and good play - so why don't you explain it now?

Makes more sense for NJAC to be targeted.

I don't fully disagree, but I'm content not to lynch either of them today.

Can someone explain the HM and alban case to me?

The HM case can be everything that bugged people yesterday paired with his vote being the most iffy yesterday on the lynch.

I agree that it's not necessarily a bad idea to lynch inside the claimed doc/target pool

It's provably a bad idea to lynch inside the target pool.

Crumbs?

None from me.

[Hellfire Missile]

Great News! Nobody died on N1.

It is now D2.

VC 2.00

Not Voting

(12): Agent Sparkles, Cooperative Sheep, NotTheRealPaul, Sesq, MuttonChopMagic, Hellfire Missile, LunaeCinere, Creature, aronagrundy, Gamma Emerald, NJAC, alban,
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-06-18 18:30:00)

I protected NJAC last night. We should both be near-conftown barring another claim.

I dunno if it's such a good idea to claim.
There could be a possibility that the scum didn't kill anyone. I dunno if that would be a small possibility to rule out, especially in a game with 4-6 cops. The only way a scum gets some pass is on a kill-less night and 1. if they are claimed to be protected by a doc; 2. if the scum themselves claim to be a doc.

Why was Gamma Emerald town anyway?

Great question!

VOTE: alban

well thanks for reminding me

but in reality, i just forgot. dont let confibas shook you.

i think it should be pretty evident why he is scum

Do I have to make another case to convince you he's town again?

I guess there's likely one scum in Agent Sparkles and Cooperative Sheep.

Why is this?

im night three doctor

counterclaim me

i fucking dare you

The docs and cops are randomized, so there can be multiple of the same role for the same night.

I agree that it's not necessarily a bad idea to lynch inside the claimed doc/target pool

I was N1 doc and saved Creature.
This is the reason why I was a bit suspicious of Agent's claim.
Although there could be 2 docs, for me it's unlikely that there could be 3 docs on N1.
I would like to lynch between Agent and Sheep.

I'm not sure alban would claim n1 doc as scum after aron's post.

can we stop saying cc it doesn't really mean anything when we know that the nights for roles are randomly determined

i wasnt talking to you paul

but i would policy lynch

due to this claim i am officialy CONFTOWN

until i am killed tonight / someone tries to challenge my 100% correct claim

No you're not. You just are so off-base believing that a random claim clears you that no one fucking cares.

I was N1 doc and saved Creature.
This is the reason why I was a bit suspicious of Agent's claim.
Although there could be 2 docs, for me it's unlikely that there could be 3 docs on N1.
I would like to lynch between Agent and Sheep.

Any preference there sport?

yeah, but if im not being cc'd im confirmed town

so for now, you should believe everything i say as if it was coming from town. not as if its automatically accurate, but coming from town.

unless someone wants to counterclaim. i dare you to do it scum

anyway so we lynch in {alban, sparkles, coop sheep}

feeling most confident about alban

i am very confused
Basically, docs and cops are in this game, every one is either a doc, a cop, or scum. There can be no VT
However, it isnt a doc and a cop per night
Instead, it's randomized, like it could be two docs or two cops per night? Or does it go up to three? I don't understand this.
And then Sesq says something about being n3 doc and saying that anyone that CC's is lying? But then Aron claims that there can be more than one doc on N3?
And that CC's are useless because there can be multiples of the same role on the same night?
Did i get this? Was the reason why no one died due to a doc or to the mafia not nk'ing anyone? Do people do NKA? Does it matter when no one died?
What's the target pool/claimed doc? Why would it be a good idea to lynch all claimed docs? Wouldn't that just be a waste of a lynch and a town member?
Is Lunae town? Is Gamma town? Why did yall read Gamma as town? (or rather, why doesnt anyone see him as scum?)

So many questions, so few answers (or maybe i'm just stupid)

[MuttonChopMagic]

guys I want to be very very clear
I know i can't explain why properly so it sounds weird
scum!alban REQUIRES at least 1 more scum in {agent, sheep}
there was no other reason to claim there, he could've just lynched the town there and been meek
scum had to know town would want to lynch in 3 day 1 docs
so risking themselves like that *unless another claim was also scum* does not rock
I seperately scumread sheep and I seperately believe one of {agent, sheep} are scum though
so let's lynch one of them, right now, go go go

[Creature]

Well, we now know there's one scum in these docs, though alban is the most buyable claim there (not the most buyable nightkill).

[Hellfire Missile]

someone answer some/all of my questions please?