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This game is probably a better example of my typical scumgame if that's what you're looking for in particular but in general I'm willing to put in the work whenever I have time.In post 448, Socrates wrote:The first thing I want to see is merely how much work Scum!Nacho is willing to put into fabricating reads, though of course I hope to find more than that.
Your observation on why I talk about reads the way I do is a very strong an accurate one; how I talk about them is not quite accurate but I'm not sure if our games together demonstrate differently.In post 417, Prism wrote:This is missing my second piece which is what makes it not so unreasonable in my opinion. I'll elaborate: It's not that you didn't use it optimally, it's that you didn't try to use it at all. You gave it for the sake of giving it. There's something to be said for giving something for the sake of giving something as town, but from what I can recall this isn't your modus operandi. The times when you do give weaker reads, they tend to be either elaborated on, not for the sake of others but for exploring your own thoughts, or very strong.
I've been pretty proud of my general shit talking this game!!!In post 417, Prism wrote:Cute. Much like Belisarius's opening video.
Which reads in that wall do you feel were lacking my usual depth?In post 419, Prism wrote:Concur on Nacho to an extent. Some of the posts-particularly that one wall of reads-tried, but in general I get the same feeling.
Why do you think that my read on you is fake?In post 406, Deadline Delivery wrote:Nacho's read on me is fake
this was an excellent post and deserves recognitionIn post 444, Shadoweh wrote:Being cheeky and dramatic is the only way I have fun in these games. You should understand since your posting also seems to be the 'rub people the wrong way to make them react to you' style. Are you a Katsuki alt or something?In post 422, Deadline Delivery wrote: kiiiinda sounds like "hey you're actually wrong on one of your scumreads there buddy" so maybe I can just go hey why you so cheekyyyy ShadowehVOTE: PrismIn post 333, Shadoweh wrote:Yeah, it kind of sucks that we're not the same alignment though. You could have neighbourized me and we'd have a party like old times. What's it like being stuck talking to Prism and [redacted] all night?
Meta stuff was just a joke.In post 435, Prism wrote:@nancy: Pretty awful dodge of my question there. You're right, it was meant to suggest that at least one of your reads on me/Vegito is wrong. Can you guess which one I think it is?
Also contradicted yourself a bit. Quoted meta reason for my being scum was that I "didn't have the fire". First thing you pointed to was, your description not mine, me "going full ham with a D1 hardbus". These seem pretty similar to me, and again my PM to you shows exactly how prideful I am when it comes to flipping scum vs. stacked tables. And again, there are cases where I did not bring the fire as town until later down the line. What exactly is it that points to this being my scum meta?
I don't think either of these are AI, just big problems when it comes to sorting me correctly. Can you actually engage with me here rather than simply tunnel?
Whenever I eventually die, and I see the light at the end of the tunnel...I hope Belisarius is that light
My read hasn't changed and I wouldn't call it an SR so much as a scumlean.In post 440, Leonshade wrote:nancy-head thought Vegito was scum, what if I'm his buddy who voteparked on him for ages, doing so for weak reasons even after I rescinded my SR? (Sorta irrelevant after nancy-head stopped SRing Vegito).
I thought *I* was being cheeky and dramaticIn post 444, Shadoweh wrote:Being cheeky and dramatic is the only way I have fun in these games. You should understand since your posting also seems to be the 'rub people the wrong way to make them react to you' style. Are you a Katsuki alt or something?
Sorry.In post 456, Vegito wrote:this was an excellent post and deserves recognition
Nah in that game your thought process regarding me was super clear, I could see exactly the legwork you were doing to arrive at the read and the emotion with which you went about it expressing it was just completely genuine and I was only paranoid about you to any degree there because it seemed almost too good to be true. There was so much fucking nuance and you were just coming up with it all on the fly. Here you were like "well she's being a goofball so that means.. kinda not much but she might be town but it's not a real read" and that's pretty much it. That's how I read it anyway. Didn't feel like you did any actual work there. Ditto for your other reads. Reasoning feels more ad-hoc across the board than what I've seen from town!you. But I say this with the caveat that I am not really putting effort into the game so if you are in fact Town then I apologize for having the wrong read and not groking it properly. I'm not pushing you or anyone for a reason. I didn't plan on being here in thread but I have to be until Math starts playing. I'll cut the threadshitting since it seems to just be annoying to everyone.In post 455, Vegito wrote:Why do you think that my read on you is fake?In post 406, Deadline Delivery wrote:Nacho's read on me is fake
I can see how it can look pretty bullshit from an outsider's perspective considering the whole "reading this as not your scum meta when I've never played with you as scum or read your scum game" thing but you have experience with me reading you for similar crazy reasons in a pretty recent game.
Being paranoid about being seen as town is pretty typical though, it seems like regular paranoid suspicion to me.In post 448, Socrates wrote: Leonshade's is being a little TOO annoyed at being town-read for my liking. Maybe he's taking it as an insult to his caliber as a player?
In post 465, Almost Chara wrote:Mod, we're voting Radical Rat, not shaddow.
anyway. hello all, i'm still sick but making an effort to give Almost a good baseline.
anything interesting happen while i was away?
~Chara
^.^In post 466, Almost Chara wrote:oh, he replaced out. it's not in the OP.
never mind then.
UNVOTE:
~Chara
In post 448, Socrates wrote:Leonshade's is being a little TOO annoyed at being town-read for my liking.
OhIn post 449, Socrates wrote:Frankly I looked at that interaction and went "Leon is town" in my head myself without having any history with him as a player at all. Throwing the first punch while still talking it out with his target and ultimately showing doubt -> Town.
It's half t-tongue-in-cheek. When I've *urrp* questioned people on it, it's been less paranoia and more trying to understand their reasoning, so I can try to sort them.In post 461, Shadoweh wrote:Being paranoid about being seen as town is pretty typical though, it seems like regular paranoid suspicion to me.In post 448, Socrates wrote: Leonshade's is being a little TOO annoyed at being town-read for my liking. Maybe he's taking it as an insult to his caliber as a player?
Oh please... All of that stuff was RVS, because that was the game state when I went on V/LA. And I didn't follow up on that question because I was on V/LA. Your scumread on me makes no sense at all. I conveniently decided to play the game because I came back from V/LA...In post 314, Vegito wrote:Your posts previous to your V/LA, where the game was trying to move out of RVS and entities such as yourself kept dragging it back in like posts here. Or here with your dumb naked vote that if you blinked you missed it. And of course your stupid do-nothing questions that you never followed up on. So, yourIn post 275, Chimchar wrote:I went on V/LA on page 5, how did you get to that conclusion?In post 257, Vegito wrote:You seem to be actively invested in not moving the game forward and your questions seem like busywork.entire iso.
And before you go "wait wait wait but I just asked DeadDel to respond to that last one!!!11!!!one" that wasalmost 200 posts ago and two days passed between you asking that question and going on V/LA. The only reason you're making a stink now is because I'm bringing the pressure on you that wasn't there before, and while you scoured your ISO trying to figure out why I'm scumreading you, you conveniently decided now would be a great time to start playing the game.
How are you townreading someone you haven't interacted with except to ask why they're scumreading you for reasons you obviously think are bullshit?In post 277, Chimchar wrote:Leaning town on DD, Leon, Ari and Vegito
Leaning scum on Rauth and Radical Rat
T-these two things seem *urrp* contradictory. If his read makes no sense, why are you not suspicious of his alignment?In post 471, Chimchar wrote:Your scumread on me makes no sense at all.I conveniently decided to play the game because I came back from V/LA...
I'm townreading youbecause I see the stuff I need to see from town Nacho.
I think Majiffy might have been pushing me for bs reasons to get more out of me, I fully realize I haven't been the most active one out there. So it doesn't bother me too much. On the other side I have more confidence in my ability to read Nacho. So far I like what I'm seeing.In post 472, Leonshade wrote:T-these two things seem *urrp* contradictory. If his read makes no sense, why are you not suspicious of his alignment?In post 471, Chimchar wrote:Your scumread on me makes no sense at all.I conveniently decided to play the game because I came back from V/LA...
I'm townreading youbecause I see the stuff I need to see from town Nacho.