Mini Normal 1917: :X Mafia (Game over!)

[Gamma Emerald]

@Paul not voting till I'm caught up.

[Gamma Emerald]

whats pbpa?

Page by page analysis

[Gamma Emerald]

Who is masian

Masian is a legendary poster on this site. It was once said that she once caught the entire scum team on page 1. She has never not been protected at night and when she replaces into games, it's standard operating procedure for the scum to just claim and let themselves get lynched to save everyone time. She quit mafia after the FBI offered her a lucrative contract to put her skills to work sniffing out Russian spies.

So, Masian is Chuck Norris's screen name, then?

Nice *hi fives CCC*

[Gamma Emerald]

my klick read is from very little content very early so clearly it's not strong
but I believe building early wagons is pro town (hence wht I voted cheet) and him getting pushed for it was wrong
his quicklynch post is clearly not for real
but, a) scum doesn't usually post like that due to attention ya feel
and b) the fact it was taken seriously confused me
so, he gets to be green until something shows me otherwise you see?
and no, he can't just idle and keep that green
if he subs my read goes back to neutral and bleak

Yeah I view Klick's flashwagon request as somewhat towny

whats pbpa?

post by post analysis boy
basically an iso on steroids

Well shit bad guess

[Accountant]

Once I feel I have a solid preliminary readslist Ill put it here
I have a solid chunk of townreads rn and one scumread

I'd certainly like to see your list, once it's ready.

Might be soon
Once I have reads on 75% of the playerlist and am caught up I'll post it

Post it now.

[Accountant]

You've been delaying this promised list for quite a while.

[Gamma Emerald]

no, we don't completely ignore him because he softed pr
if he doesn't do anything actually useful then he climbs the lynch bar
if he's at l-1 and claims something believable, that is when we lynch elsewhere
I am the only vote on him atm I believe, that's not exactly biological warfare
also, to get all altruistic and shit, but understand
we should not be teaching beginners softing having a pr after 1 vote = a good plan

Carefully hidden in this rhyme is a very good point. You're wrong on one thing, though - NotTheRealPaul has two votes now, so far as I could spot (NotSure put on the other one).

But that doesn't change your main point. Frivolous PR softing should not be encouraged. Also, I'm sure the Mafia's picked up on it already - he has very little to lose by being a little more explicit at this point.

VOTE: NotTheRealPaul

And that, I believe, makes three votes.

Don't like this, registers as rolefishing.

[Gamma Emerald]

Once I feel I have a solid preliminary readslist Ill put it here
I have a solid chunk of townreads rn and one scumread

I'd certainly like to see your list, once it's ready.

Might be soon
Once I have reads on 75% of the playerlist

and am caught up

I'll post it

[Gamma Emerald]

I agree on giving him a few days, he hasn't *actually* proven useless yet. But towns being so good at hitting scum Day 1 with their reads sounds like a fun hypothetical world that doesn't exist.

I live in hope and optimism.

And I

have

seen scum identified and hit on Day One. It is possible.

Been there. Don't let Tywin's defeatist theory get you down Backhand.

[Gamma Emerald]

Town
notsure
CCC
Cheetory6
Accountant
Backhand
DeathRowKitty
Grendel (null)
Hiraki (null)
Not_Mafia (null)
MuttonChopMagic
VOTE: NotTheRealPaul (top scumread)

[NotTheRealPaul]

reasons for the vote? Im guessing its not pressure like MCM?

Im curious if you are meta'ing me at all

[Gamma Emerald]

No Meta. Just don't like some of your posts.

[NotTheRealPaul]

Alright das cool. Which ones?

[implosion]

Klick has requested replacement; searching.

[Gamma Emerald]

so to be clear
you have a good reason to vote yourself my dear?

yup obviously I voted myself because I know Im scum and I want towncred since I led the wagon on myself.

So when I flip scum, then obviously im like conftown because I led the wagon so then I dont need to worry about being mislynched

/sarcasm

UNVOTE:

now town cant get distracted over something irrelevant (IMO) and we can have real discussion

Or is this somehow useful to town? Please explain why because I am newb.

Seems like an over reaction/AtE.

"But I'm also inclined to think DRK is trying to start a wagon to direct away from my read on them, as shit and/or personal as people might think it to be."

is

"But I'm also inclined to think DRK is trying to start a wagon to direct away from my read on them, as shit and/or personal as people might think my read on DRK to be.

Not sure can you explain this? DRK hasnt even voted you Im not sure how he is trying to start a wagon on you

This indicates you aren't paying attention to things. It's a proven fact that scum don't have to read the Game as closely as they know everyone's alignment.
Huh, I forget who taught me that. Proof I've been around a long time by now.

[NotTheRealPaul]

alrighty then. no point in defending further as Ive addressed both of those already. Seems more like an issue of trust at this point.

[NotTheRealPaul]

Alright I promised some analysis didnt I? So Im up at 3:45 AM slaving away through ISO's, so there is a slight possibility I mix things up.

Well Ive been looking at ISO's and so far this is what Ive got. List goes town at top scum at bottom.

Accountant, Grendel, DRK
Klick, CCC, Hikari
Notsure

So my townreads im pretty confident in.

The null reads generally havent posted much except CCC. So I mostly like CCC's post and would probably put him in town except in a lot of his posts he says, "well I could see scum!person, but could also be town!person" and its kinda waffly and it just pings me hard. Its my only real problem with his posting, but its mostly alleviated when he made that readlist.

That leaves notsure who I slight scumread. Like his initial scumreads of DRK and Klick seemed to simply be because they disagreed with him on theory and pointed out why they thought his opinion on theory was foolish. It wasnt so much an OMGUS, but he obviously felt threatened and lashed out especially in DRK's case. His lashing out seems to be a way to take percieved pressure off him. Now his vote on me, was fair. I mean I failed reading and brain derped hard, but I thought it was hypocritical thag he said I half-ass paid attention when he so clearly failed to read properly in his argument with DRK. I admit that might be a reach. Rn im reading more of a newb!scum because of his reactions to percieved pressure.

Will do another post looking through a few more.

[NotTheRealPaul]

Alright its round 2:

Cheetory, Backhand
NotMafia, Raya
MCM, GE

Once again Im pretty confident in my townreads. Dont see reason to explain as of now.

The null reads are quite simply theyve done nothing. As far as NotMafia I think he is only the lynch if we have no other hood leads as CCC or Backhand said.

Now MCM and GE arent really scum reads but theyre not dead null like raya and nm, so I put them a little lower. So I didnt like MCM's opening few posts. Someone said his pbpa seemed like a townie reaction, but I disagree it felt like he was overcompensating. Like he was scum trying to scare some of us out of SRing him lest he tunnel us. Although recently his posting has pinged town to me so he isnt quite scum but he isnt dead null.

GE is here mostly because of his readlist. So while he was catching up b4 his readlist, he called CCC out (kinda) saying he thought he was rolefishing, but lo and behold he is one of his top town reads when the list is out. Now I dont believe he really mentions backhand at all and yet backhand is still a tr for him. IDK like I think im reaching but its something I noticed. His push on cheetory pinged me really hard, but the rest of his play is okay.

So that should be everybody. My SRs arent very strong so IDK who'd I'd vote rn. It'd be between MCM and Notsure. I do want to go back and look at DRK's case on GE as it confuses me, but Im too tired atm. If someone could explain it concisely and simply (so MCM prob not u) that would be nice.

Looking back I realized all my SRs are people who are voting me so it does look pretty ONGUSy. But ehh, my reads are what they are.

And ifs prob time I sleep as its 4:30 AM here

[NotTheRealPaul]

ebwop GE disnt push cheetory. I was referring to his questioning the Cheetory's TR of CCC. Like their is nothing wrong with questioning a TR but the way he went about it and the length to which he pursued it I didnt like.

[Accountant]

This indicates you aren't paying attention to things. It's a proven fact that scum don't have to read the Game as closely as they know everyone's alignment.

whoever told you this was wrong and bad at the game

[NotTheRealPaul]

This indicates you aren't paying attention to things. It's a proven fact that scum don't have to read the Game as closely as they know everyone's alignment.

whoever told you this was wrong and bad at the game

explain?

Like I guess what GE said only applies to bad scum as good scum would pay attention to the game more knowing who theh can easily push.

So like I get it if he thinks Im newbscum who skimmed, and it would make sense as Ive never played scum before and this isnt my normal tone. Note: This isnt a scumslim Im just saying I can see how it makes sense from GE's POV.

[NotTheRealPaul]

ebwop not a scumslip*

[Accountant]

scum needs to read the game closely because they're trying to trick down and need to know what town is saying so they can manipulate the course of events or just stay informed in general

they also need to keep a watchout for pr tells and see who is a threat so they can NK them

it's a total and gross lie to say mafia doesn't pay attention to the game

on the human side of things people usually play mafia because they enjoy the game and humans pay attention to things they enjoy

[NotTheRealPaul]

fair point. Being the newb here im not sure who is right but mith make sense.

Id assume this would be a theory disagreement where both sides have their opinion and neither is completely true? I guess I'll wait for someone more experienced to weigh in here.

[Cheetory6]

people usually play mafia because they enjoy the game

I play as self-punishment.