Open 688: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[Almost50]

mod you should rename it to Day 2

Or maybe Day 3 even, just in case I forget to change it in the future.

[alban]

Has anyone played with hellfire before? Is he usually like this?

[MuttonChopMagic]

I skimmed a couple of his games, there aren't many
neither were scum, and yes, his play was this zany

[NotTheRealPaul]

Im disliking HM and Coop as day goes on.

Like I feel sheep knows what MCM means but is intentionally dancing around it if that makes sense.

HM I feel hasnt really done anything. Since there is no pressure on him it seems he has layed off and has just been asking questions that dont further the gamestate or making non game related comments. Need to do a quick ISO but I feel good about an HM lynch now

[NotTheRealPaul]

ya quick ISO has revealed he has done next to nothing to afvance gamestate. I get he was confused initially, but from about 720 on in his ISO its just little comments with no scumhunting or sign he is really interested in scumhunting. I get an "oh look. that happened" vibe from his posts.

VOTE: Hellfire Missile

[Agent Sparkles]

I'm exahusted right now but I'll see what I missed in the morning

[Hellfire Missile]

V/LA 6/7-6/9

This might make me seem scum like Comm (Yes, VLA timing might've been suss)
Prod for activity makes me do reads of a shit kind because that's the kind of reads i do under pressure and yes i know they're shit but i don't know how to change
(Assume all reads are lean or something)
Creature town
NotReal town
NJAC town (although he sorta dropped off the radar)
Cosheep i think is town, contrary to popular belief
GE is weird, don't know what he's doing with 3 docs (null)
Sesq is null (trying to avoid bias, i guess could be town)

here is my reads list with its shit reasons or something
make fun of it if you want
i tried




again

[Cooperative Sheep]

you literally just said words, none related to him
that's buzzwording, using the common ping words and not saying anything with them
what about him made him look like he was game solving? in what way was he not opportunistic? what caused him to vibe town? etcetera
none of that applies to gamma. it applies to x player, doing x thing, not this player doing this thing. better
attach meaning to your fake town reads next time
you are eating rope for your crimes

These are illogical whines that could have been solved by you asking this question initially instead of acting like I didn't answer your question.
I would say most of his questions feel like game solving - he probes at people (unlike, say, how it's taking me forever to get you to say what you mean) As an example look at Posts 267-271
I can't show lack of opportunism in a post - can you show presence of opportunism? If not, my stance pings true.
Vibing town is that, to me, his posts feel town. I'll give an example post - 401. Dishonesty is an easy thing for scum to leap on, so why question the veracity of dishonsty as a tell? That's town behavior.

It's all still buzzwords though.
Apparently you wanted post numbers?
Use your words.

I have this feeling Hellfire Missile got scum, anyone else does?

I also feel like that.
I also am suspect of the lack of bodies piling on to me during this debate with Mutton.
I think scum knows the bill of goods is bad, which makes Mutton derp town.

You should vote Hellfire with me.

Like I feel sheep knows what MCM means but is intentionally dancing around it if that makes sense.

I am asking him to specifically explain his thoughts.
Then I am mocking the answers and explaining why they're bad.

I do KNOW his answers insomuch as I suspect that he has bad reasons, and that's why I'm asking those questions - to allow me to showcase his bad logic and crush the case.
But I am allowing him to provide the answers in his own words, and not leap to conclusions.
I don't see how that would suggest I am either town or scum though - it does suggest that Mutton's case is pretty bad though.

What's your read on Hellfire?

[NotTheRealPaul]

Read HM as slight scum. My vote was half pressure half to lynch. I didnt like how he dropped off and stopped doing anything to help gamestate once Sesq dropped off him. Wanted to see how he would react to pressure, and like he tried but tha isnt much of. readlist. Like its pretty self-concsious I guess where he says theyre shit reads and he tried. Like it pings as inscinsere to me.

I mean he cant really defend himself because V/LA so I'll probably get back to him when he gets back and now I'll have to find a new target to pursue.

[Gamma Emerald]

Read HM as slight scum. My vote was half pressure half to lynch. I didnt like how he dropped off and stopped doing anything to help gamestate once Sesq dropped off him. Wanted to see how he would react to pressure, and like he tried but tha isnt much of. readlist. Like its pretty self-concsious I guess where he says theyre shit reads and he tried. Like it pings as inscinsere to me.

I mean he cant really defend himself because V/LA so I'll probably get back to him when he gets back and now

I'll have to find a new target to pursue

.

Pardon?

[NotTheRealPaul]

I'll have to find someone else to go after...

Like I need to look back and see if I see anymore scums then pursue them

Did you really think that was a scumslip? Like cmon I didnt think you were gonna misinterpret THAT.

[Gamma Emerald]

I wanted to see you react to it. Not a fan of your reaction.

[NotTheRealPaul]

No one seems to be a fan of my reactions these days.

People just dont see me as genuine. You can like it or not. Ive yet to play as scum so Im pretty much completely honest in everything. The exasperation, sarcasm, etc are all pretty real.

[MuttonChopMagic]

guys im setops stpp fuvking aroind
sheep is scum and I'll literally bet the game on it (if only that was allowed)

[MuttonChopMagic]

you literally just said words, none related to him
that's buzzwording, using the common ping words and not saying anything with them
what about him made him look like he was game solving? in what way was he not opportunistic? what caused him to vibe town? etcetera
none of that applies to gamma. it applies to x player, doing x thing, not this player doing this thing. better
attach meaning to your fake town reads next time
you are eating rope for your crimes

These are illogical whines that could have been solve
d by you asking this question initially instead of acting like I didn't answer your question.
I would say most of his questions feel like game solving - he probes at people (unlike, say, how it's taking me forever to get you to say what you mean) As an example look at Posts 267-271
I can't show lack of opportunism in a post - can you show presence of opportunism? If not, my stance pings true.
Vibing town is that, to me, his posts feel town. I'll give an example post - 401. Dishonesty is an easy thing for scum to leap on, so why question the veracity of dishonsty as a tell? That's town behavior.

It's all still buzzwords though.
Apparently you wanted post numbers?
Use your words.

I have this feeling Hellfire Missile got scum, anyone else does?

I also feel like that.
I also am suspect of the lack of bodies piling on to me during this debate with Mutton.
I think scum knows the bill of goods is bad, which makes Mutton derp town.

You should vote Hellfire with me.

Like I feel sheep knows what MCM means but is intentionally dancing around it if that makes sense.

I am asking him to specifically explain his thoughts.
Then I am mocking the answers and explaining why they're bad.

I do KNOW his answers insomuch as I suspect that he has bad reasons, and that's why I'm asking those questions - to allow me to showcase his bad logic and crush the case.
But I am allowing him to provide the answers in his own words, and not leap to conclusions.
I don't see how that would suggest I am either town or scum though - it does suggest that Mutton's case is pretty bad though.

What's your read on Hellfire?

so hellfire is their targeted mislynch. cool.
these are not "illogical whines", keep up with the drool
a town case isn't "here's 6 town tells from the wiki thus gamma is town"
that's the type of shit you see in the newbie queue clown
I'm not tolerating a hellfire mislynch
the only one getting roped here is the wooly grinch

[NotTheRealPaul]

Okay im not seeing the coop case. Like he showed you where he got the town tells. Like I dont get it, but at same time this comes off as very genuine to me and. my mind is pretty much twisting itself into an knot trying to figure this out.

Can someone else weigh in on this? Sesq your thoughts? Agent? Anybody?

[MuttonChopMagic]

the gamma case is eh and I'm not impressed
but there's more important things to be pressed
he intentionally acted dumb just to throw me off
constant digs, jobs, discrediting doesn't stop
it's setting up my lynch for a later time
so he can flip his read on me if it suits him fine
I thought he was scum on day one
but then comm started sliding, I subbed in near deadline, panicked not fun
needed a lynch, so I gave up and let comm be roped
I regretted it after and thought I was toast
I was pretty sure sheep was scum coming into the day
I let it stew, but he claimed d1 doc on an awful target, hooray

[Almost50]

VC 2.03

Gamma Emerald

(3): Creature, alban, LunaeCinere,

Hellfire Missile

(2): Cooperative Sheep, NotTheRealPaul,

Cooperative Sheep

(2): MuttonChopMagic, aronagrundy,

alban

(2): Sesq, Gamma Emerald,

Creature

(1): Agent Sparkles,

Not Voting

(2): Hellfire Missile, NJAC,
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-06-18 18:00:00)
*Hellfire V/LA till June, 9th
*Comm V/LA till June, 10th
*arona has been ptodded
*Searching for a replacement for LunaeCinere

[NotTheRealPaul]

fuuxk Ican someone else please comment. Im so fucking torn.

Like my gut is with MCM and my brain is with sheep

[Gamma Emerald]

fuuxk Ican someone else please comment. Im so fucking torn.

Like my gut is with MCM and my brain is with sheep

Explain?

[NotTheRealPaul]

fuuxk Ican someone else please comment. Im so fucking torn.

Like my gut is with MCM and my brain is with sheep

Explain?

So my gut feeling is that MCM is genuine.

However, the way the whole case played out, like my brain doesnt see it.

So I dont really understand MCM's case but my gut is saying its right so im really frickin confused.

What do you think about it?

[Cooperative Sheep]

he intentionally acted dumb just to throw me off

How did I do this exactly?
Because you keep saying this - but it wasn't being done.

I've literally provided you everything you've asked for or shown how what you're saying is a lie and somehow that makes me scum and your case unchanged.
You are either scum or blind tunneled - why won't you communicate, why are you empty casing?

[Cooperative Sheep]

So my gut feeling is that MCM is genuine.

However, the way the whole case played out, like my brain doesnt see it.

So I dont really understand MCM's case but my gut is saying its right so im really frickin confused.

What do you think about it?

Is your gut saying that he's genuine or is your gut saying he's right, or both?
They are different things.

[Gamma Emerald]

fuuxk Ican someone else please comment. Im so fucking torn.

Like my gut is with MCM and my brain is with sheep

Explain?

So my gut feeling is that MCM is genuine.

However, the way the whole case played out, like my brain doesnt see it.

So I dont really understand MCM's case but my gut is saying its right so im really frickin confused.

What do you think about it?

I feel like it could be T v T. I definitely feel MCM is town though.

[Cooperative Sheep]

Calling it T v T is not valid - I'm not trying to lynch him and have been calling him town for some time.
It's T v Derp tunnel