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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:14 am

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I explained NTRP in a past post
I dropped that case and bumped him up one spot
Mutton is my lowest now
DRK I feel their pushes are genuine but I don't really regard that as grounds for a hard townread. I've made pushes on things I legitimately believed were scummy as scum before.
Notsure is just obvious newbtown. Not much to say there. I could point out specific post I like if you really want.
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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:28 am

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In post 548, Backhand wrote:
In post 540, MuttonChopMagic wrote:thought about it. not sure slot is close to lock town now I think
that's a gross replace, yes, but scum doing that there would be 1000 times more stink
1000 times more stink. . . is more likely? Less likely?
that would be a very dirty play if scum and since subbing removes you he wouldn't even get the metaphorical win in thoughts

so I don't consider it likely at all, the type of person who's oversensitive is typically not the type to take very low shots
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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:30 am

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not liking gamma much at the moment but with timing as it is
he's fosed me first so ill let it go for now due to risk of bias
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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:38 am

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In post 550, Gamma Emerald wrote:I explained NTRP in a past post
Could you perhaps link the post in question?
In post 550, Gamma Emerald wrote:I dropped that case and bumped him up one spot
Mutton is my lowest now
Fair enough, reads do change. (If you could explain your read on Mutton, too, that would be great).
In post 550, Gamma Emerald wrote: DRK I feel their pushes are genuine but I don't really regard that as grounds for a hard townread. I've made pushes on things I legitimately believed were scummy as scum before.
Notsure is just obvious newbtown. Not much to say there. I could point out specific post I like if you really want.
Hmmmmm. I think that pointing out specific posts you like would be a really good idea. "Obvious newbtown" is a very easy thing to say when you don't really know what the case is.
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:27 am

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Mostly caught up, stopping to eat before making posts. :)
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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:43 am

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In post 469, Hiraki wrote: @Grendel - is Post 184 the only basis for the SR on Backhand?
No, I also disliked his vote selections.

Mutton is probtown. Not Mafia has been fundamentally useless this game, but voting him is a place holder vote. Its low info, and mostly safe. His reasoning for voting both feels shallow as well.

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In post 482, Backhand wrote:
In post 479, Accountant wrote: How is it a townslip?
This game explicitly does not have daytalk.


Ah, shit. I misread, mafia did have daytalk for 48 hours. So, take that one back.
Backhand attempting to town slip looks really contrived.
In post 548, Backhand wrote:
In post 540, MuttonChopMagic wrote:thought about it. not sure slot is close to lock town now I think
that's a gross replace, yes, but scum doing that there would be 1000 times more stink
1000 times more stink. . . is more likely? Less likely?
I thought this was a particularly loaded post for somebody who more recently stressed that he was not scum reading unsure.
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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:44 am

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@Hiraki

btw what is with the stylistic changing in you posting style? Your wording feels much looser and off the cuff then that other game we played together, and that one game I spectated.
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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:52 am

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In post 409, Gamma Emerald wrote:Town
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VOTE: NotTheRealPaul (top scumread)
Why are you town reading backhand, and DRK?

Where is klick?
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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:55 am

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In post 459, NotTheRealPaul wrote:Well thats another person who reads my tone as off. Like I really dont get it. My tone seems to be universally scummy despite me not freakin being scum. Like is there something I do to fix this or do I say fuck it and let town waste time based on a shitty gut and inability to read tone?

Asking as a newbie to you experienced people.
I think that many of your posts read as incredibly insecure, and in some cases insincere.
In post 420, NotTheRealPaul wrote:
In post 419, Accountant wrote:
In post 414, Gamma Emerald wrote:This indicates you aren't paying attention to things. It's a proven fact that scum don't have to read the Game as closely as they know everyone's alignment.
whoever told you this was wrong and bad at the game
explain?

Like I guess what GE said only applies to bad scum as good scum would pay attention to the game more knowing who theh can easily push.

So like I get it if he thinks Im newbscum who skimmed, and it would make sense as Ive never played scum before and this isnt my normal tone. Note: This isnt a scumslim Im just saying I can see how it makes sense from GE's POV.
Posts like this where you felt the need to say you were explicitly not scumslipping. It makes you seem overtly concerned about appearances vs finding mafia.
In post 332, NotTheRealPaul wrote:
In post 331, MuttonChopMagic wrote:so to be clear
you have a good reason to vote yourself my dear?
yup obviously I voted myself because I know Im scum and I want towncred since I led the wagon on myself.

So when I flip scum, then obviously im like conftown because I led the wagon so then I dont need to worry about being mislynched :)

/sarcasm

UNVOTE:

now town cant get distracted over something irrelevant (IMO) and we can have real discussion

Or is this somehow useful to town? Please explain why because I am newb.
And posts like this that felt like a forced snarky reaction to play off pressure.

I also think that your reluctance to vote your reads, (however small they are), is going to impede your creditability in this community where many players vote fluidly. Players see you not voting and think that your inability to exercise what essentially is your power over mafia as nervous scum afraid of backlash.
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:56 am

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In post 557, Grendel wrote:
In post 409, Gamma Emerald wrote:Town
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VOTE: NotTheRealPaul (top scumread)
Why are you town reading backhand, and DRK?

Where is klick?
I explained DRK later. Will cover backhand in a bit.
Klick totally slipped of my radar omo
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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:04 pm

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I think that Not Paul is no longer a lynch option I want on the table today.

I have a precedence for accidently nailing town prs as scum on this site.

Gamma can vouch for this lol
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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:04 pm

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No? You didn't nail me that game
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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:08 pm

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In post 550, Gamma Emerald wrote: DRK I feel their pushes are genuine but I don't really regard that as grounds for a hard townread. I've made pushes on things I legitimately believed were scummy as scum before.
This isn't something I can argue b/c its too personal, and vague. :(

I never really got a vide for DRK, and atm I'm wondering if she is scum.
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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:09 pm

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Okay. I think can specify on that.
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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:11 pm

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In post 561, Gamma Emerald wrote:No? You didn't nail me that game
No, I'm saying that as town I gravity towards scum reading players that turn out to be power roles.

I don't have that luck as scum. (P sure that's the thing your thinking of)
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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:12 pm

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Yeah
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verify the clarified statement. I was subject to that trend in a game in fact.
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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:45 pm

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Vote Count 1.7

Backhand (4): Grendel, Accountant, MuttonChopMagic, notsure
Gamma Emerald (2): Cheetory6, DeathRowKitty
Not_Mafia (2): Not_Mafia, Backhand
Cheetory6 (1): Klick

Not Voting (4): Hiraki, NotTheRealPaul, Gamma Emerald, CCC


With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
Deadline is on Thursday, June 15th at 5:00 PM PST, in (expired on 2017-06-15 20:00:00).

notsure has requested replacement.
Accountant is being replaced.
Searching for replacements for Klick, notsure and Accountant.
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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:46 pm

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YO NOTSURE YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE SINCE ACCOUNTANT GOT BANNED
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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:57 pm

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PenguinPower replaces Klick.
SlingshotWaffles replaces notsure.
Nero Cain replaces Accountant.
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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:58 pm

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I'm here. Catching up soon.
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Post Post #570 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:00 pm

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In post 569, PenguinPower wrote:I'm here. Catching up soon.
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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:00 pm

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vote:PP
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #572 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:00 pm

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I'm rvsing on p23 lol
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #573 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:01 pm

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VOTE: Nero
OMGUS
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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:04 pm

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Advance notice but I will be
v/la on the 16th
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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